What is that based on exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
I've possibly misunderstood the wording of the stat and if so then apologies but there appears to be around 7 countries in the world with a higher death rate than Sweden.
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What is that based on exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
I've possibly misunderstood the wording of the stat and if so then apologies but there appears to be around 7 countries in the world with a higher death rate than Sweden.
Brazil crisis deepening:
Reuters: Brazil death toll passes 30,000 with true infection rate estimated to be 15 times higher than official figures
The number of daily deaths is now well in excess of 1200 and the overall number of confirmed cases -- 555,383 -- makes Brazil the world's second most affected country after the United States. However, experts estimate the real number of infections could be up to 15 times higher than official figures, given relatively little testing across the vast country of 210 million.
The Independent broke it down into per capita figures but I can't find the article now. This Guardian piece explains it though:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...anders-tegnell
I don’t know how many daily tests other countries are doing. There were 171,000 tests done in UK yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
I guess if you test less then you’ll find fewer infections.
I posted a screenshot further up from the FT site. Sweden now has the highest per capita new deaths per day. Here it is again:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
https://i.ibb.co/tHbjSQj/covid.png
https://i.ibb.co/tHbjSQj/covid.png
Spain is no longer recording excess deaths, Italy was also nearly back to long term averages as of Apr 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Bairn
Latest from UK is still about +25% in England, +10% in Scotland, +12% in Wales.
Actually, the Scottish figures are a week ahead, up to May 22. For comparison purposes at May 15 where the E&W figures are, S was +17%.
Ahh ok thanks I'm assuming the emphasis is on the "new" deaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Are they still double counting tests? ie nasal and saliva tests in the same kit are counting as two for one patient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Bairn
Highest over the last 7 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
But overall still well below Italy, Spain and U.K. And about the same as Scotland. Scotland is worse if you use the excess deaths number.
What's significant about the Swedish stats is that their decision to follow a form of herd immunity as opposed to strict lockdown has attracted a lot of attention. It will be interesting to see how the figures stack up over the forthcoming weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Bairn
Maybe not the best idea to force MPs back to the commons...
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/stat...728767489?s=20
So, under the new tracing system, should all MPs who were present in the Chamber today also be in self-isolation...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
Rees-Mogg should be flogged for putting MPs lives at risk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
Flogged as in privatised and sold-off? Not many takers there.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonty
Dispatches special on Channel 4 now. Should be interesting....
Maybe the 19th century wants it's prick back?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
He's from further back...Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
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Only if he tests positive and only if someone has been within 2 metres of him for 15 minutes or more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Fixed that for you, J :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by jonty
There were not 171,000 tests carried out yesterday. The government included the tests are in the post in the figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Bairn
I don’t dig into things that closely. The reported tests were 171,000 and the positive cases (presumably from those tests) was 1,871.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
I suppose if there is consistency in approach then you can then compare accurately to previous dates.
For example on the 6th May there were 6,111 new infections reported from 69,000 tests.
According to the news this morning if a person gets tested they get swabs from both the nose and mouth, that's counted as 2 tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Pretty sure that's been the case from the start, they count the tests, not the testee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Bee
Chiquitos and Frankie & Bennys to close 100+ restaurants permanently. They employ over 20000 people UK wide. They also own the Wagamama brand.
I'd expect a few more hospitality groups to start announcing closures in the coming days if the whispers I'm hearing are accurate.
Is there an advantage to that or am I just being too generous tonight and it's simply just the Government at its tricks again and it's a way of making the figures look more impressive?Quote:
Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales
Awful news but not surprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I fear theres a lot more to come.
Flogged just like Nanny used to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonty
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Bee
It has although they didnt make it clearQuote:
Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales
https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?...=1#post6183271
If the results are both tests being negative (otherwise why have two?) then while theres two tests in the kit, the test per person is really only 1
At the very least the govt figures are misleading. Like many of the other statistics used by them recently.
Interesting thread on the testing figures
https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/stat...449323010?s=19
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More bull**** and lies straight from the dispatch box
https://twitter.com/StefSimanowitz/s...180994565?s=20