will they ever upgrade that place but,they've been getting safety certs in a brown envelope for years,who is to say it won't carry on like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by MrSmith
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will they ever upgrade that place but,they've been getting safety certs in a brown envelope for years,who is to say it won't carry on like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by MrSmith
Christ Kickback is becoming as cleeky as this where you have to get a PM or join a PM forum to get some useless info. Just say it FFS. Internet forums are as sad as the masons with their secrecy.
Our PM Board is cheaper than the masons.Quote:
Originally Posted by CB_NO3
And, morally, much less reprehensible. :stirrer:
One thing is for sure. Whatever this info is they all seem convinced that it's amazing info and are as excited as Skacel at a sniffing contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by CB_NO3
It's most likely a hoax for our benefit, but it will end up annoying as many KBers as it will satisfy those who like to think they are in the know.Quote:
Originally Posted by CB_NO3
And it's a great big **** off to kickback from me:jamboak:
Looks like it all frittered in to nothingness as usual. No civil wars, no falling outs and no shocking revelations. And we were all supposed to be in need of a change of underwear.
No.
I don't know about you, but I've had this same thong on since the day the Huns went into admin. I suppose I should change it soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Ah! That'll be your sectarian thong then...Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Something thong in those posts, cracks me up somewhat :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
They picked the wrong day if they were attempting to wind me up, as I've been out for most of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Still no date confirmed for the UBIG meeting then.
adomonis - isn't he the chap who wanted to do the UBIG admin gig but got kicked into touch?
Alex Salmond banned sectarian thongs, watch out the polis will be no here any minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
They are waiting at the back door with their battering ram in hand as we speakQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
No, no, that's Sergey :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
I hope he remembers to take pictures. Best £10 I've ever spent.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
As entertaining as a liquidation would be, I don't think it really matters that much. I think there will be an asset purchase for a Budgie Newco on similar terms to the CVA anyway, so it's floundering 1905 Hearts down a division for 2 years or floundering 2014 Hearts starting from the 4th tier. Either way the muppets will have to find over £6M of their own hard earned over and above ST money etc just to get back to the top league. Once they get there they'll be hand to mouth in their crumbling dump of a stadium.
All of the above, btw, is supposed to be a massive GIRUY to Hibs. No, me neither. :confused:
I think any angst on here, "they're getting away with it" and the like would evaporate if TB can actually sort our team out. This season has been a real wasted opportunity, we ought to be looking forward to 4th and 5th derby wins of the season. If we had got that, and let's face it every other team bar the Sheepies (bizarrely) has been humping them for fun, there would be none of the teeth gnashing that's going on here.
How do you know that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I wrote the thongs that make the whole world sing...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Thing, surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
I can't thing a thong, and don't call me Shirley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
You've not lotht it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Looking at a few examples of players in the Portsmouth team before administration and currently. It's all relative, of course, but I think we can expect the Yams to greet and girn for a very long time watching a team that will be 10% or less of the cost previously splurged. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Players for Portsmouth before administration
David James
Lauren
Glen Johnson
Lassana Diarra
Papa Bouba Diop
Sulley Muntari
Jermaine Defoe
Peter Crouch
Sylvain Distin
Kanu
Asmir Begovic
Players for Portsmouth today
Phil Smith
Yassin Moutaouakil
Danny East
Joe Devera
Sonny Bradley
Marcos Painter
Jack Whatmough
Andy Barcham
Ricky Holmes
Simon Ferry
Rhys McCabe
Pleasing !
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Originally Posted by greenginger
To that £23.5m we can add something like £45m that was used for DFE swaps, debt waivers and other sundry unexplainables.
I would guess that a lot of the shares required were involved in these transactions.
Marcos Painter in midfieldQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenLake
Must be related to Ian black
Surely not The Soldiers Thong!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
fixed that mateQuote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
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So the brokebackers have all been creaming themselves over nothing today then?
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Originally Posted by tomf
Is he still here?
Is that not what they normally do. Sometimes with a magazine if they can't spy on their sisters?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
J
Who? tomf?Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
I sit next to him at ER so I'll check at the next home game.
Is that the West Upper or FF. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Does anyone know if these were the guys who advised Ukio Bankas on the value of the Tynecastle property? It seems like a big drop in value from £22 million a few years ago to what would be left out of £2.5 million after subtracting the value of the football club and players. Nobody in the media seems to have questioned such a hyperbolic reduction in value.
NEWSEC
Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
On a purely personal note. I do find it a bit hard to take that (not for the first time) some people on this forum seem to consider my comments as being from someone other than a Hibs fan. Can I just emphasise that I sit in the stand alongside two of the administrators of this forum and that all I try to do is express what I think is a reasonably considered opinion and raise what seem to me to be interesting points. I honetly don't give a toss about Hearts, although their current dilema is fascinating for anyone interested in Scottish football, but I like to think we are above their standard in terms of tolerating different opinions...so, please, no more accusations. Feel free to disagee with anything I write; we are all entitled to our opinions, but they are expressed by a Hibby. I would rather not have had to write this because I can appeciate how it will be looked upon elsewhere but then, I didn't make any idiotic accusations.
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Fair enough. But the fact is I've never seen any clear proof that Mikey isn't in fact a very deeply embedded early variant of greenforgo. The more I think about it, the more I see similar levels of sophistication and cunning... :hmmm:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomf
Which stand is that you three sit in again?
i thought i saw something unusual earlier in Cramond, upon further inspection it wasnt vlad coming up for air :lurksub::Romanov:Quote:
Originally Posted by TRC
Jeez was only joking mate hence the smiley at the end of my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomf
They clowns are just full o wind n pash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
According to them you are in fact a jambo troll and you have taken us all for a ride :cbQuote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
Come to think of it... has anyone ever seen Mikey and GreenForGo in the same stand together?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nailrod
In that case he's the deepest undercover agent ever as I've known Sergey for about 20 years!! They'll be telling us next that their 40,000 seater stadium & hotel isn't going to happen!! :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
Fair post. Hibs.net is sometimes prone to a bit of paranoia.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomf
Jeez... You must be one of them too! We're surrounded!Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
:wink:
Obviously Hearts are worth around -£20million. Would you give more than that for a jobby coloured brand with mutant, inbred customers?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLake
Seems a fair price to me.
Funnily enough, that's pretty much how Duff & Phelps sought to justify the sale of Rangers FC's assets to Sevco for £5.8m. (That the Rangers brand was worth a negative amount I mean, not that HoMFC IA are).Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Actually, B - it must be closer to 25 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
There's been quite a bit of alcohol imbibed along the way, that's for sure!
Best ride I've hadQuote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
I would have said 15 - but as noted alcohol has played havoc over the years. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
Thats for sure!! Sorry to digress guys but I just came back home from London town. In a 30 minute visit I managed to almost join in a Teachers' strike march & attach myself to the paparazzi filming Max Clifford going in to Southwark Crown Court! Always something happening!Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberSauzee
It's not even as simple as that. Greenforgo sits in two different stands simultaneously. I'm telling you we're dealing with some very cunning people with some quite frightening powers.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Tomorrow is only Thursday, meeting is scheduled for Friday, unless you have an advanced copy of Thursdays Evening News :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by HenryMonk
Ahead of the times,
and the Post and the Herald, and the Mail.....
unless the Evening News has changed since i was last up in Edinburgh, it looks "different".........wouldnt complain if it was true tho!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish
http://www.fodey.com/generators/newspaper/snippet.aspQuote:
Originally Posted by Platinum Scotty
Make your own headlines.
That looks like it's from 1914, mind you all the yams are away winning the first war !.Quote:
Originally Posted by HenryMonk
http://r9.fodey.com/2307/51b5e636cf5...626b38b3.0.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by HibeesLA
I remember Brog from the London Hibs meetings in the Holyrood - good fun :flag:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
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Originally Posted by Mikey
Well, you should have fun working out which stand he's in at least :wink:
The Holyrood doesn't exist anymore. How ironic!Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
Think you missed a zero out should it not be 400,000 seater:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
After all the flurry of excitement about meetings this and next week that are key to exiting Administration it's gone all low key again .Is this a deliberate ploy to try and worry us or is there a complacency over there that they know they are on track to get out of admin by end of April or have they just no idea .
assume Yon Budgie woman now won't be saying a lot unless she has positive or liquidation news to impart to the Expectant Masses .Talking of Masses is Black Sabbath on or is it St Mirren s inability to take a point at Caley that will deny us our rightfull place to be the Team that inflicts the Final Blow and Relegates them proving that Sporting Integrity will always win out over cheating .
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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
What is there to worry about?
Hearts set for more delays in Lithuania
Published: 27 March 2014
Bryan Jackson. Picture: Colin Hattersley
Hearts are braced for further frustrating delays in Lithuania despite learning that UBIG’s creditors meeting will take place on 7 April.
Even if Hearts’ administrators BDO get the result they are seeking, they could have to wait until the end of April to have the collapsed investment company’s 50 per cent stake transferred due to a 20-day appeal window.
A creditors’ meeting involving the club’s largest creditor Ukio Bankas, scheduled for tomorrow, is set to approve the handover of the bank’s 29.9 per shareholding to BIDCO, Hearts’ prospective chairwoman Ann Budge’s holding company.
It had been hoped that Budge would assume control by mid-April, but she now might have to wait until the start of May.
BDO troubleshooter Bryan Jackson had said that he only had enough money in the bank to get Hearts through to the end of March. He could start selling season tickets to raise vital finance or ask the Foundation of Hearts, who are backed by over 8,000 fans donating a combined £1.4m annually, for help.
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Is this them paving the way to getting the begging bowl out again? I'm no expert but could this be a smokescreen to hide the real reason for the delay, ie. frozen shares?
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Do we have a Hibs.net equivalent of the pleasing smily?
:confused:
:flag::flag::flag::flag:
I wonder if Irene knows about this meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaimendhibs
Definitely looks like D-Day will be arriving within the next month or so when we will know the likely outcome of this..
Unfortunately it seems to me that the last few hurdles will also be cleared and the Saviles will finally be able to rejoice at achieving their target of bumping as many people as possible and becoming virtually debt free whilst avoiding the liquidiser.
I'm not about to be grateful for a relegation and huge drop in turnover as nobody needs millions to get out the first division and compete - or triumph - against Hibs.
You can't transfer frozen shares budQuote:
Originally Posted by DC_Hibs
Ukio and ubig can agree to transfer them (subject to the courts approval)
The press have been slow on the uptake though
The courts in the case of Portsmouth fc froze the shares years ago...and they're still frozen as part of a criminal investigation
Vlad is in the same boat as the Pompey owner, under criminal investigation, so the unfreezing of shares is highly unlikely (regardless of what ukio & ubig do or say)
It'll be years
Meeting delayed. Oh that's terrible news. The poor wee YAMs must be getting worried.
Tempting but I do remember...Quote:
Originally Posted by rosscarnie
Keep the faith the big L is still probable in my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by DC_Hibs
Spot on it is down to the Lith Courts plugging in a microwave sometime.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Not really. There was always a cooling off, appeal period wasn't there?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyB_70
According to this, http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ania-1-3355045
The wee souls think they are getting the shares after the UBIG meeting but they are frozzzzzen.
They are trying to play mind games and make us think that there is a positive end game in sight .I want maximum financial suffering to be experienced by them as there is no contrition or remorse just let us sign Rudi ,don't burn out our young players, don't pay our debts as it was nothing to do with us Vlad forced this on us and we were all oblivious to what was going on .There complacency and smugness at times defies belief .Therefore I want this to drag into May and beyond so that Liquidation becomes only way out ,as I genuinely think that given the scale of cheating ie wages being paid ( remember some of there players were on seven to ten grand ) when it was clear this wasn't sustainable ,and no one addressed the issue . This is payback timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
A lot lot more than that I think you'll find. Gordon, Driver, Nade, Skacel, Obua for starters :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
The 7th April is 10 days away, 4 of which are non working.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaimendhibs
Remember the equivalent UKIO meeting had either 12 or 18 days notice (would some younger person please jog this aulder persons fading memory?) when invitations were sent out/made public, agendas, reports published, passports required and pens sharpened all that stuff!
Expect more delays to be added to the more delays.
Has anyone got a list of thier top 10 earners just to remind ourselves of how outwith thier means they were living and what was the most we ever paid ,was it five grand a week ? To SauzeeQuote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
Skacel's lawyers claimed in The Sherriff Court he was on £3.5k a week when his agent was suing him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
That however may only be the sum that was received In Scotland who knows........
I think the only real 'news' here is that there's a meeting on 7 April and whether that turns out to be accurate or not remains to be seen. There would always be a cooling off period when and if the transfer of shares is agreed, and the article ignores the fact that the transfer has to be ratified by the Lithuanian courts - it's debatable how easy that step will be. The meeting tomorrow is simply another step in the Ukio liquidation process and the best HoMFC (IA) can hope for from that is to be pretty much in the same position as they were before the meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaimendhibs
This looks to me like the start of a process of extracting yet more money from the Gorgie faithful by selling season tickets for next season to fund this season's activities. That, of course, is one of the reasons they got themselves into this mess in the first place and will have a significant impact on FoH's plans for next season.
Aye, second time round at the Saviledome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
This is how I have felt it will go for a while now, eventually they will get through the meaningless approval of the CVA simply because the creditors at that end have nothing to gain unless they really look at the true value of the wongadome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
The only way they will accelerate the court process and avoid the same outcome as Portsmouth is if they can somehow show their position is different.
Either that or there has been some behind the scenes political lobbying, I am sure the Liths will be unimpressed by Independent Ian who by his very conduct cant be seen as independent, Slavering lord foulkes was a vlad man, so that really only leaves that international statesman and renowned yam wee eck salmond to lobby on their part but maybe he has something more important to focus on at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
I find it sad that so many people have such an emotional investment in a team getting liquidated it makes them "worry".
That's right so they did :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
They must have had a bigger nose than him :fibber:
nade was on £16k a weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...earts.23801953
More confusion, the Herald seems to think the 20 day cooling off period applies to the transfer of the Ukio Bankas shares. :confused:
Still can't see any shares being transferred to F0H, Budge, or into the possession of BDO until the £ 2 million initial payment is made and that is not going to happen until UBIG are in a position to hand over their 49.47% share holding.
despite every deadline being missed, this wee lamb still believes everything she is told.Quote:
Posted Today, 06:31
So there's a one day delay and the cooling off period is 20 days as opposed to 30 days ??
So there's no delay realy.....non news story.
Pleasing.
(has anyone heard a date for the court case to switch off the freezer?)
Think Kingston was supposed to be on something similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by leggeto
Big team, big wages.
Would have thought that the cooling off period applied to both sets of shares.
Both articles talk about them being transferred to BIDCO. FOH Shirley?
That is a certainty. Remember Rudi going over to Lithland to meet Vlad and coming back with a " private deal " that Jeffries knew nothing about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
It still should have been taxable in the UK and on his registered playing contract.
Bet it was paid by UBIG, and there will be evidence with the UBIG admins, if only our footballing authorities would ask.
That is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by DC_Hibs
I do not doubt what you say but if that is true how did thy ever hope to be self sufficient.Quote:
Originally Posted by leggeto
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Wonder if the 20 days are just 20 days, or 20 Working Days !
Coming up to Easter and I think the whole of Lithuania closed down for a week or more. :thumbsup:
Looks like every bit of this procedure is going to be carried out before we find out if the frozen shares is an issue.
I don't expect there to be any problem for them getting the CVA ratified by Ukio and Ubig other than the time it takes to have all the appropriate meetings. On this, you would have to say BDO have done a fine job as it appears to be happening quite quickly now.
Then it will be down to the frozen shares.
Whichever way it goes, one set of fans is going to look a bit silly.
At least for us that's the worst that can happen.
Ok worry is the wrong word What I want to see is them get there comeuppance which IMO should be more than Administration I have no emotional investment in Hear7s apart from they are our city rivals and while I would miss that the Punishment should fit the crime . If you find that sad there isn't a lot I can do about it ,but if you want to contribute your direct Debit to There fighting fund feel free . I don't remember them all standing on the away Terracing at the Hands off Hibs event and that was there chance to show Solidarity with our plight so I assume they were happy with Mercers devious ploy when Tiny Rowland had shafted us to buy hotel chains in Bristol that were going down the swanny, he set up our then out his depth chairman ,Mr Duff to have a meeting with mercer in London to help us out financially .Duff had no idea he was meeting mercer and no idea the proposal being put to him was I will help out but make Hibs extinct in the process . Now if you are asking does that make me emotional ,the answer is yes . Now maybe I should let that all go ,but in some way Liquidation would go some way to righting that wrong .Mr Duff could of sold his soul to the Devil ,but he was a Hibby at heart and held out ,and eventually was jailed for his financial wrongdoing .( so there is a moral in there) Sir Tom had to step in or we would still have been in deep troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
I am not looking for them to become as extinct as a Dodo ,but The big L seems to me to be a fair cop as they say .But others that feel administration is fairer are entitled to there opinion and what will be will be . Your right I won't worry:wink:
They definitely appear to have changed this to BIDCO. The original CVA said FoH but since Budge was unveiled they have only talked of BIDCO. Maybe this is a straightforward change?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
The big L is the end. There is no way back from it.
Really that is shocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
In that case day 11/12 will be Easter so further delays !Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
The shares are froze and only the Lith Court can plug in the Micro Wave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I m not saying I wont happen I just think based on probable criminal investigations, it is unlikely.
If I look silly so be it
think he had a big fridge/freezer for all the grub he spent that wage onQuote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
We can hardly look silly after telling them for years it would end in tears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
All that we can get wrong now is that they won't be liquidate.
Everything else we have predicted has come to pass. Self sufficiency; missing shares; Vlads Disappearance; Administration; more cake sales; no transfer of owner ship; missed deadlines (August, October, December, January, March) ; relegation (remember how they'd be past us by September).
if they avoid Liquidation, we can look forward to many more predictions coming true. Their struggle living within their means, the slow progress out of the Championship, the struggle to fix their death trap stadium, the relocation to Livingston, the drop down the leagues, sponsorship by Shandon Fags and Mags, the car boot sales and open air market at the PBS, the attendances of 45,000 at Saughton Enclosure, the pathetic pleas to Edinburgh City Council, LRT buses being painted green etc.
I wish I was in Bulgaria, the tears of pride are welling up. Thanks to the experts on here, we have been miles in front of the media, and the Hearts rumour mill at every step.
It's what I think as well but only based on the opinions on here, one Bloomberg article and a few references to Portsmouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
I'm surprised at the complete silence on the issue from anyone connected with Hearts including BDO. This little Jambo omertà means that I can't be sure that they have not had assurances from people in Lithuania that achieving the CVA will be enough to unlock the freezer. BDO appear to be making more progress than many on here predicted.