I await with baited breath the L5 statement regarding truth, justice and the sevco way overcoming mean people that don't like themQuote:
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I await with baited breath the L5 statement regarding truth, justice and the sevco way overcoming mean people that don't like themQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Rumours among Celtic types that Petrie involved in these goings in an attempt to re build his power base after his falling out with Lawell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy
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I remember Stranraer having an orange away strip, no doubt it was linked to the Unionism that seeps through from northern Ireland.
Celtic fans, always looking for a conspiracy though 😂😂, and regardless of what Petrie may or may not be doing - I wouldn't put any store by what they say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
To be fair to Celtic fans, it turns out their paranoia was well placed. Rangers were cheating and the SFA knew about it. And the SFA have refused to act on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
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We all know what the Orange top stands for and what it means to the Govan bigots, but unfortunately this is something they can talk there way round. It’s all the the other crap they belt out that needs sorting and any decent run football heirarchy would have sorted this problem years ago. I know this has been said and talked about many times but it’s something we should always be talking about until it’s taking seriously.
Dock these teams points or make them play to empty stadiums and bar them from Europe.
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Like I say.
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Sectarianism, or general violence? The only West Lothian sides that ever carried sectarian baggage with them, were Harthill, Armadale and Whitburn. There's a very clear boundary in West Lothian as to where this ***** becomes an issue - as soon you leave Bathgate and head over into Armadale, you'll find your fair share of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iggy Pope
I played amateur football in West Lothian for years and the only time I ever encountered any violence was when we headed west to places like Airdrie, Coatbridge et al.
Not like David Low to be so anti-Hibs. [emoji849]Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Yip, although he tends to be more anti-Petrie than Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
https://videocelts.com/2018/06/blogs...sfa-powerbase/
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Having met Low he's a complete balloon with very inflated ideas of his own capabilities.However as the average sports journalist's knowledge of finance extends no further than filing his expenses they tend to treat Low's pronouncements as gospel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
You could have warned us! A Butcher's at that mug this early in the day is a bit :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Are M&S Bank trolling John Brown here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The Big #HappyHouse Must Stay Open!
Do M&S hold the deeds? Huge, if true...
This is all very well, but when is the first marquee mega-signing of the Stevie Gee galactico era gonnae be "unveiled"?
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Originally Posted by Stranraer
That's a real head-in-the-sand moment.
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/pe...d-gary-hughes/
Pitchfork and torch brigade going after El Tache. Hypocrisy in action.
I’m not going to back Petrie just because he’s our chairman. He’s part of the cover up and should be gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by KerPlunk
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Petrie has questions to answer. His fascilitating of the 5 way agreement and his indecent haste to ‘move on’ from the calls for an independent inquiry into the SFA’s handling of the EBT scandal and then almost immediately installing an EBT recipent as Scotland manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He is part of the SFA establishment that needs purged from our sporting authorities to give it any credibility at all.
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They are going all out to try discredit the current charges against them. They get more like Trump every day.
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Absolutely. The SFA is failing massively to deal with this 6 years on. It’s been cover up after cover up. And Petrie has been at the heart of it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
The whole governance set up needs completely reformed and made totally transparent at every stage. There is no way that can happen while Petrie is there. Transparency goes against his very nature.
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I've been a defender of Petrie through the woes of the last decade, but I am now getting a waft of something unpleasant coming downwind. It's time for the club to 'move on' from our association with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Dream on, unless STF decides his times up, whether you, or these Celtic bloggers like it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
His role at the SFA might be in jeopardy though.
The Celtic conspiracy theorists (including David "I have no clue, but will make it up anyway" Low won't be happy until Lawell or some patsy of his choosing is in charge.
Or it could be they just want some transparent decision making?Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Whatever the question is, Petrie is not the answer.
You first point is correct unfortunately. He’s at Hibs as long as STF is here.
Hopefully he is forced out the SFA soon though.
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Look, I'm all for transparency, I just don't believe the "pitchforks for Petrie" Celtic bloggers are in any way out for anything except their own club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I doubt they would be making any noise at all if they had a hint that Celtic had any skeletons rattling about.
Celtic and anyone connected with them will not be happy until Lawwell is in overall control of Scottish Football. He almost is by default anyway. Total ****er only interested in celtics interests and to hell with everyone else.
I’m not fussed about their motivations. The only way anything will change though is if the current incumbents are forced out and it’s decided that the only way to avoid this in the future is to reform the whole set up. It won’t happen while they are still in post.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
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If he is in charge then how come they refused to properly investigate Rangers?Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
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They should try and get whoever it was that defended the GASL against the charges in South Africa to take over here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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It's worth keeping in mind that, despite their bleating to the contrary, The Rangers absolutely do not want transparency in the running of Scottish football.
Correct. They want to go back to the old way where the SFA help them at every turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Estupendo
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Must pay more attention!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
Whoever accepted his resignation should be fired - he has emboldened the idiot that is King to impose his will further. Is Trump learning from King or vice versa?
He didn't actually resign. He isn't seeking re-election.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
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Yes I know - I'm more inclined to think he was invited to not seek re-election..... either way its a victory for the Glib one......Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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Originally Posted by Estupendo
:top marks
"Invited"Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
[emoji16] like it.
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What exactly did Hughes do for Scottish football over the last few years?I’m sorry to say until a few days ago I’d never heard his name.
I doubt there is a single soul at the SFA in the last thirty years who could honestly say they have done a good job.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
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Different cheek of the same ar5e.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The GASL found a quote from way back disparaging fans of Der Hun. He was outraged, as "owner" that's his job. Orange strips etc fleecing them as others have in the past while using the Patriot excuse to brook no debate. He's unhappy the secret is out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
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They canny be short of money.
Lining up a £3 Million (reportedly) signing from Brighton. Others being mentioned and they won't be going there for peanuts.
Where's the money coming from?
45000 season tickets sold!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Famous Fiver
1. They haven't spent it on him yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Famous Fiver
2. I wouldn't believe a word of what the scottish tabloids say about their amounts. Absolute guff.
The guy has played 8 games in two seasons. No way have they paid £3m for him. And if they have then more fool them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Famous Fiver
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I've probably seen most of Goldson's games for Brighton. He's decent but I wouldn't swap him for Paul H. However, you have to remember in these ridiculous times, anyone who pulls on a 1st team jersey in the top tier of English football becomes a £10m player overnight. Brighton will expect at least £3m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Sky sports reporting it is 3 million. Plus a Liverpool player going on loan for a season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Did I hear this guy had a heart condition recently. Agree no way 3m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The young Liverpool Player on Loan is probably accurate and may we'll be Gerard's best way of enticing young talent He will know who the best young players are and if they are getting game time under him they may well respond well if they can handle all the Sevco baggageQuote:
Originally Posted by HH81
Also no surprise to see them linked with Brandon Barker He run them and Celtic ragged at points last year
Cheaper Options leaving him more cash to splash out on a couple of higher profile players if he can persuade them to come north
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If they want Barker on loan don’t see why he wouldn’t come back to us if he has a choice. If they want to buy him then we have no chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
They will be able to pay more of his wages Bit think he will want loaned out down South unless Clubs are now wanting to buy him in which case City may cash inQuote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
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Yesterday’s news, must have missed this
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...s_share_issue/
Haven't read it all as i don't subscribe to the Herald.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
But how can they have a share issue if King's TOP situation is unresolved?
Doesn't TOP have ANY powers at all?
I think part of the issue here is that TOP haven't (by most accounts) been here before.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
So there is brinkmanship going on, on the part of RIFC and King, to see how far they can go.
That all said, I find it strange that RIFC want to know now how much Club1872 are prepared to invest. It should be the other way about; it's for RIFC to issue the offer document, with all its terms, and then Club1872 decide how much they're putting in.
Then again, "strange" in most people's world......
Presumably it’s so they can guess at a price .
And strangely enough all the papers ran the story with not one journalist asking what price the shares would be. Club1872 are asking their members to chuck in £1m without knowing what they are getting. And they have a week to say yes or no.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
It’s a bit like the yams ‘share offer’ pre admin. No offer documents etc, just give us your money quick.
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Yeah, I thought that was a bit wierd as well.
I actually wondered if it was just a way of getting this in the papers for a few days, thereby raising the 'feel good factor'.
http://etims.net/?p=13042
Worth a read.
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Looking at the length of that... Later :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
And in other news, Murty resumes his old job as Rangers Academy Manager. The guy has no morals, continuing to work for a club that treated him so badly!
He was publically humiliated Agree no morals Money TalksQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
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Wonder what the odds are he’ll be in charge of the first team before Christmas!Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Maybe that’s why he’s hanging about!Quote:
Originally Posted by blaikie
Still think he should have left
They must know what they're getting. They can't be that dim. They are getting another few months of Rangers football. Surely none of them thinks they are buying shares as an investment on which they expect a financial return.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Surely?
You're new around these parts, ain't cha?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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No self respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
No morals goes without saying. Not the sort of place for the sound of mind to take up employment.
Maybe he has bills to pay and didn't have any other offers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Exactly. Good paying academy jobs aren't that plentifulQuote:
Originally Posted by sleeping giant
When do they have to play celtc?Quote:
Originally Posted by blaikie
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[QUOTE=CropleyWasGod;5426355]You're new around these parts, ain't cha?
I was hoping you were going to get a reply along the lines of "I'm not as green as I'm cabbage looking". :smug:
That's not a phrase I'd ever use, I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4WAW
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
This was always the weakness.
“Abide by our rules or you will be cold shouldered.”
And?
As I understand it, RIFC will need someone to manage the share issue. "Cold shouldering" would mean that no-one could act for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
I think. [emoji16]
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i suppose if the main sanction is that rangers cant advertise the offer (but the smsm stèps in on that front), and that King needs to find and persuade willing buyers (and club1830 stèps in there) then King has béaten the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
of course, the system beat King in theory but theory assumes investors would be rational, would wish long term certainty before parting with cash, and that investors would wish for sound advice instead of thedaily record sports team and super scoreboard as their guides - the investor équivalent of falling for posh Boris slapping a false misleading and british slogan on the side of a bus in a référendum...
the sooner Scotland rejects Britain and its harmful ways the better
I agree most of this, but isn't it a Scottish "institution" doing all of this whilst based in Scotland with an inert government allowing all things The Rangers to pretty much carry on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
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IIRC, it's a rights issue. Ie only current members can buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Still think they need professional support though.
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In more ways than one.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Saw this on one of my feeds! Crops if you’ve stopped playing your imaginary guitar, can you give me your views
Good to catch up with you yesterday Ozy too, what’s your view on this, if true
https://daviesleftpeg.wordpress.com/...nd-boondoggle/
Guitar, schmuitar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
I'm still on ma air moothie.
More later....
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I’m not sure but I’d be surprised that a bank would lend money for such an investment. The interest rate would be sky high. Borrowing money for share purchases is a very expensive thing normally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
I really can’t see it being true. If Sevco went belly up then everyone would immediately cancel their direct debit and the bank would be stiffed.
Even if they don’t go belly up, how do you persuade the members to keep giving when they know their money is only going to the bank and the club have got all the money anyway.
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https://thecelticblog.com/2018/06/bl...mpression=true
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To be fair, the piece doesn't say that it's bank funding. It may be private.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
You're right, though.... No bank would lend such a sum (presumably quite high) without the ability to repay regularly or without security. I don't know much about Club1872 but I'd be surprised if they had sufficient of either.
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Originally Posted by grunt
Open Firefox then:
File - New Private Window - 'http://www.heraldscotland.com/'
If you then get blocked after reading a few articles, close the Window and open another private window.
I wonder if Club 1872 has borrowing powers?Nobody would lend money for the purchase of shares in an issue when the terms of the issue have not been published.
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keekaboo
1872 are the equivalent of a vehicle for money laundering Wonder who has joined them in last few monthsQuote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
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I doubt they have. I just can’t see anyone lending anybody money to invest in sevco.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
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Speculation from kerrydale st from one of their more informed posters:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Say you are a glib and shameless liar. Say you have also told lots of people you have difficulty releasing capital or moving money. Say you stood as guarantor to a loan to someone who couldn’t get a loan otherwise or even provided the funds yourself at a “reasonable” interest rate. Say the quantum of that loan was loaned to a business you had significant interest in. Say borrower defaulted on repayments. Would you be quids in either way?
Just a thought...
A thought, but a silly one.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
If said borrower defaulted, said guarantor would be stiffed for the repayment. If said GASL was the lender, and borrower defaulted, said GASL would also be stiffed.
Yeah, I thought the "quids in either way" bit was silly but the idea that GASL would act as guarantor in order for the mug punters to pony up cash he would otherwise have to find himself does sound like it might appeal to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
A full day has past since this rumour surfaced and it looks as ridiculous now as it did then. Not from a sevco or club1872 perspective, those daft us are capable of anything in their search for more cash. It’s from a lenders perspective that it does not stack up at all. You only have to look at the level of security Close Brothers took to see that there is no way anyone is lending club 1872 money to invest in Rangers.
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Isn't there also a Rangers Official involved in running Club 1872? This stirs memories(perhaps out of date)of connected persons and shadow directors.
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Originally Posted by ancient hibee
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/SC525940
Jim Blair was a director but he resigned end of last year.
He is still the only share holder in the Company ( one share ).
Its his company/club they are pouring their cash into. It would make Vlad blush ! :greengrin
Well he should be on the winning side in any shareholder votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/s...fied-_-TWITTER
Obviously wants no part of the shenanigans that follow when Rangers get a free pass on the fraud of their 2011 UEFA license application.
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https://thecelticblog.com/2018/06/bl...mpression=true
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Should that Celtic Blog not be better named the Rangers Blog?
I read this and I was left somewhere between Pacino in Godfather 3 and Chief Brody in Jaws...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
"Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in"
and
"You're going to need a bigger boat"
This Ibrox pantomime clearly has two or three further Acts still to run (although none of them will be funnier than the unforgettable award-winning/award-losing Act that took place in those fateful 15 minutes between the 78th min and full time whistle on 21-5-16)
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/footb...laim-1-4753057
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Rangers about to sign £5m worth of defenders, money no issue at Ibrox it seems!
For £20m? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz