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Originally Posted by 3pm
He was getting abuse for going to a Catholic church during the week too.
Seems a very strange decision by the player imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Is It On....
If MoH was at the game then surely more people would have noticed, I don’t think it’s him.
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I can't say I could tell anything from the photo, but if I was a current Rangers player then I wouldn't be watching any game from the Celtic end of any ground.
A Hun, after all, is a Hun, irrespective of what school they went to, foot they kick with, church they go to etc etc.
Unless he’s intentionally trying to get himself binned!
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What, to sign for Rangers?Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
BothQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomsk
I thought they were his boyhood heroes when he joined, though that would make him about 10yrs old.
Is it that much different than Leigh coming to watch us. Predictable backlash which he would surely have known would happen.
What in the actual **** is a "bead rattler" anyway? It's like these people speak a completely different language.Quote:
Originally Posted by Castle1875
It's like eskimos having 50 words for snow. Huns have 50 pejorative terms for Roman Catholics. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by McS****y
I'm convinced Ibrox is a giant bigotry multiplier. You take a small problem in West Central Scottish society, feed it into a large stadium via a vociferously loud group of ********s and before you know it, you've got folk from all over Scotland who wouldn't know an orange sash from an orange tic-tac giving it fenian this and fenian that.
The best thing that could happen to Scotland would be Sevco going out of business and taking the "Rangers" brand with them into the grave for good.
I have absolutely no doubt that if they were to die (again), they would reincarnate (again). There are just too many of the bigots out there for some astute individuals to ignore the potential to empty their pockets (again). I also have no doubt that a re-reincarnation will be just as, if not more, odious.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
Sectarianism as a business model.
Thing is, how long will the money keep coming in?
Well, it's been coming in for about a century now and nobody at sevco are going to rock the boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
One of my pet Huns has been getting really grumpy recently - almost lilke his shares are going down the tubes again :) :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Didn't Roman Bednar watch the Hearts-Hibs SFA Cup Semi-final from the Hibs end while he was injured?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Deluded as ****!Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
And there you have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
A uniquely Scottish problem. And scotland's shame.
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They reeeaaalllly hate us. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
I'd honestly be troubled if they liked us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
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Top quality nonsense written by a deluded buffoon who doesn’t know how to use apostrophes, commas and full stops.
The establishment must be so proud.
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A nod’s as good as a wink to a blind Hun.
Yes, he did. On the way to and from the ground, there was only one Hibby out of the 1000s who said anything negative!Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
Not unrelated....
https://www.google.com/amp/www.skysp...ir-play-breach
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...417a76e1b8.jpg
Interestingly it appears other clubs are still under investigation this year with mid June seen as some kind of deadline. Sevco were aiming for their share offer to be done by mid June although that has went a bit quite.
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Originally Posted by hibees 7062
'The establishment is back'
That end-line just says something we all knew anyway - the Hun are proud of the fact that their club depends on bent/biased officials !
I spent a few minutes on the Rangers Media "Bears Den" website. It makes FF seem like the Sunday Post !Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
The taig / tarrier / fenian / bead rattler chat (some of it directed against their own Catholic players including their youth teams) is everywhere but what is really scary are the threats of what they would want to do to certain "Taigs"
Nowhere is any of it questioned or challenged by any of the "decent" The Rangers fans.
I don't know the laws about online hate speak but id be interested to see how the authorities would deal with a forum that was consistently anti semitic or Islamaphobic.
i agree your theory that Ibrox is a bigotry multiplier.
My views that The Rangers aren't part of a society problem but perpetuate a problem that would have largely disappeared if they didn't exist.
Cities like Liverpool and Manchester had similar immigrations to Glasgow and had sectarian issues on their streets up to the mid 20th century. While folk in those cities are still proud of their cultural heritages the sectarian thing has mainly disappeared.
https://bbc.in/2rZHzAu
More about Milan. Their case is very similar to Sevco in that there is uncertainty about refinancing of a loan. That is exactly the problem sevco have.
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I'm not sure they are exactly the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
RFC know what they want to do to repay the loans, and have plans to do so. It's the pesky Court of Session that is preventing them. Milan's issues seem to be much deeper and more difficult.
Phil Mac reporting/speculating/making up* that Alastair Johnston is set to resign and wants his money back. Don't think he was in for a huge amount but every little hurts. :wink:
* delete to taste
Totally agree. The lack of any sort of moderating of these sites firstly by the people that run them and then Police or other bodies is utterly shameful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brizo
Skrtel's agent says the New Huns can't afford him:
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"Rangers are interested in Martin, I personally talked to Steven Gerrard about this possibility, but he is dealing with financial affairs and Martin has sincerely said that it would be an honour for him to play under Gerrard's leadership for some three years, but now there are complex financial matters that are too far apart to find a compromise, "he said.
I'm guessing that an EBT isn't on the table then. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
He is also saying that two other resignations have been Parked (if you read his stuff you will know what that means) until July and if that's true there will be a pretty empty Blue Room on meeting days.......Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
They gave all the money to Alves Barton and krancjaers pension funds[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
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Park is a big shareholder is he not...might be tempted by Kings 21p offer that he’s gonna have to make (at some point surely!)Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
I'd rather they wasted the lion's share of their war chest on a hot headed 33 year old.
Rangers and their spending power remain a threat to us when it comes to signing up our loan and out of contract players.
I'm sceptical that the sums of money are such that Park would regard it as a windfall given how much cash he has tossed into the black hole already.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
CWG will know better than me, but I would imagine they are more interested in distancing themselves from King than recouping the money - allowing their half witted fans to think that they are taking money out of Sevco will have more consequences for them than it will for Alistair Johnston who is across the Atlantic.....
Park can’t sell anyway. He’s part of the concert party. King only has to offer for the shares outwith the concert party.
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Oh well that's better yet. He could sell if King wanted to buy them I guess but that's not going to happen. Walking away and in all probability losing his money too - it's the Sevco way.......:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Isn't there quite a difference (in terms of the books) if the loans are from directors (as they are at present) or if they were to become 'external loans to non board members (if Johnston and Park join Paul Murray in resigning from the board)?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
That could tip UEFA against them..
I read somewhere that UEFA will make all decisions on FFF by mid June so if they stay on until July will that not help Sevco?Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Celtic are not currently a rival..so as we play in Green & White and are the original greens...they transfer their hate to us. A few on the Den' actually describe Hibs as the favourite away game..Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
The 'Scotsman' takes another step closer to being the East Coast version of the 'Daily Rectum' by playing up to the Hun's orange-strip fantasy ..................
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/footb...atch-1-4744059
'And now fans are hopeful that an orange and blue kit might become a reality for the Ibrox club'
All for the Hun £ !
Don't see it that way at all, and it's quite funny given it's the currant buns and their obsession with that particular (see what I did there!) colour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
It's just a football story about a team from the west. If it was a Marmaris store selling dodgy Hibs stuff and it had been picked up by fans, I'd expect them to run the story.
Not really Sevco specific but it’s where all this chat happens so I put it here.
Will be interesting to see how much Scottish clubs pay agents.
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Think you’ll find that the Scotsman head office is at Orchard Brae very much in Edinburgh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blurry Face
Whoooooosh :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
Sevco now saying Celtic will only get 900 tickets for Ibrox next season. [emoji23]
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This is a good one - Sir Glibness wanting a non Executive director from the SFA suspended because of a comment he made about Rangers fans 12 years ago when he didn't even work for the SFA. He's a fe****n headcase.....
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/footb...ents-1-4744346
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Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Mind you, the SFA director probably needs a good slapping for suggesting that watching fitba in a glasgow pub with a pint of Tennents lager was "a good night".
Where are you reading this, and why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Would be crazy for both these teams to cut the away allocations.
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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
See this tweet
https://twitter.com/ClydeSSB/status/999685236081512449
Hibs please take note. Let’s put the tickets for Hibs v Rangers at home, on sale as early as possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryan91
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines...s-a-thank-you/
The huge demand for season tickets, in advance of new applications, seems to be something they've conjured up in their own minds. Isn't it the must repugnant club in Scotland with the most expensive season tickets?
I'd have thought our near neighbours had the most expensive season tickets in Scotland (once you add on the obligatory :greengrin FoH contributions).Quote:
Originally Posted by Estupendo
Not to mention the spending at the ‘cake bakes’!Quote:
Originally Posted by cocteautwin
according to the National, Sevco are giving Celtic 800 away tickets which seems ridiculous to me.
Maybe they are getting a decent segregation unlike us. Might keep some of the spit away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stranraer
They are just showing everyone what a huge big club they are and don't need anyone else's money. It's known as 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'
The Sevco fan groups were pushing for this last season. Basically it comes down to that they can't stand 8000 gloating Tims during their biannual humpings. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
Stan Collymore just went off on one on The Rangers on Twitter, the best quote below;
"
I despise everything you stand for. Hope that's clear enough.
You're not the people, you're a vestige of yesteryear, and in 100 years, you'll be extinct.
"
Ouch :greengrin
Reality starting to bite after the initial flurry of optimism around Stevie G.
Linked with 34 year old James Collins after being priced out of Skrtel!
He can fill the Senderos role for them maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by blaikie
It's strange really, what with the dogging and woman beating you would think Stan would fit in perfectly at Ibrox.Quote:
Originally Posted by IGRIGI
With Alves going nowhere and with them losing Martin and Bates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Defensively there looking good!
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Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
I see it more that they really need the money right now.
Having to wait to be paid for the 8,000 or so seats in the Broomloan Stand during the season doesn't really fit in with their urgent need for money right now.
Seeing as there's currently a large demand for STs (the Gerrard effect), they want to take full advantage before it all goes mammaries skyward.
Good point, twice that I know of huns have spat at me.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
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Originally Posted by Keekaboo
I see your point, but these seats were available as class B season tickets ( no old firm game ) so the increase in revenue can only be the difference between the B class and the full price.
On a different Sevco note , I see the other 2 directors of Rangers Retail Ltd ( the 2 Sports Direct appointees ) have joined Paul Murray and resigned from that Board, leaving Dave King as the sole director of Rangers Retail.
Obviously no one wants to be next to Mr Glib these days.
Do we have to wait another hundred years!Quote:
Originally Posted by IGRIGI
Awe Naw
A wee trip to the Capitol City will be looked upon as a real treat to the unwashed but only 850 of them will be able to make it in future, perhaps they will make it into a new lottery game for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Is It On....
:greengrin:greengrin:na na:
Apparently Derek Johnstone has been appointed as a Sevco fatbassador.:rolleyes:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...mpression=true
Let the fun begin.
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Or they’ll all do a “Barry”Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
That piece is so full of holes. Assumptions and estimates abound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The recipients have a good case for resisting the demands. There's a basic principle of not being taxed twice on the same income which their advisers should be relying on.
You really know how to ruin the mood of a sunny bank holiday! :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
But when were they first taxed on this income …?
I reckon this is why bazza Ferguson declared himself bankruptQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Ferguson bankrupt with debts of £1.4m over unpaid tax bills
Ferguson was declared insolvent with debts of more than £1.4million and is one of a number of ex-Rangers players targeted by HMRC for repayment of controversial EBT earnings.
Ohhhh it's not cut and dried.... nothing in this saga ever is :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
What I'm getting at is that RFC should have deducted tax and NI from the payments to the players. The fact that they didn't is their fault, and they have been assessed on that.
There is a basic principle.... or, at least, there used to be... that HMRC couldn't go after the employer and the employee for the same tax. It was always the employer that was held responsible. Even in cases (like this) where the tax wasn't actually paid because the employer had gone bust.
That all said, there is a new aggressive attitude from HMRC, which is targetting recipients of tax-avoidance schemes as well as the employers. I am sure that there will be many test-cases being lined up, both by HMRC and recipients' advisers, to test the legality of the HMRC action.
Get out in the sun....
...might only be 100 days the way things are going.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Hi-Bee
That was probably due more to his involvement in the Eclipse film schemes than the EBT stuff. At that point (last summer?), the EBT decision was yet to be made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy
:top marksfor the neologism.Quote:
Originally Posted by KerPlunk
I'd love to see Sevco fans write down what they think "neologism" means :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
*edit correcting my dumbass spelling mistake
I had to look it up in case any body asked me.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Leith Dutch
But in my defence I usually do look up new words that I come across.
GGTTH
Players should be fine anyway, they have a letter of comfort from the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Same club, right?
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No mention of company there and these are football debts if it’s the players who have to pay. Sevco agreed to pay all football debts.
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Except on the letter-heading :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I take your point about the football debts.... although the Oldco liquidator won't. Cue a game of pass-the-parcel.
Thinking it through, if the assessments fail because of the indemnity letters, HMRC can't then go after Oldco... because they've already won that case, and can't win it "again".
The ultimate ****ing irony of ripping them for piss poor vocabulary while ****ing up basic spelling :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blurry Face
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Originally Posted by The Leith Dutch
Not to worry I'm sure you'll get it write next time :greengrin
So is this Sevco or The Liquidator's remit? And is the old club still dead? Will this be given the same treatment as the allegations of sexual abuse were given, the same as everything else they dont like.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
1. It's the liquidator.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Falcon
2. Oldco is still alive, albeit on life support.
3. It bheggars belief that you would ask such a thing.
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines...investigation/
Don’t think we are far away from open warfare. [emoji3]
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Can Dave King be found to be not ‘fit and proper’ now? He passed the original test but can that be revisited? Shirley if he’s in contempt of court he’s not a fit and proper person.
What is this all about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
This is all about the current notice of complaint. There is a good chance they will be banned from Europe and they are trying to get the Hun hoards onside now.Quote:
Originally Posted by vince1973
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Spfl chairman also serves on a board of a company that dermot Desmond has shares in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
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Does this count as a statement for this season or next season's league table?:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I think it's a Champions' League Qualifier. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
"Scottish football is an important national asset and must have levels of probity and governance that are beyond reproach and that are transparently so."
... said Dave.
Have they got their licence? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens