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23-05-2020, 01:31 PM
04Sauzee

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

600 new F O H Donations What does that take thier to total to
Maybe that’s Budges plan all along Stir up the masses get them on her side siege mentality like The Rangers and more money to squander
Credit in that it’s something we can’t seem to do

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Only hear about new sign ups never cancellations. Still good going from the muppets.
23-05-2020, 01:32 PM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by Sammy7nil

Yeah credit to the Hearts fans they seem to have absolutely no concerns about throwing their hard earned cash at the black hole. :aok:

It's a great effort no doubt, but unless you are thicker than a very thick thing it has to be soul destroying to reach a certain point and realise you're actually worse off than when you started, then decide to give more money to the folk that got you there.

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23-05-2020, 01:34 PM
Aldo

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Originally Posted by Sammy7nil

BBC reporting Hearts are in a great financial position, Benny Factors in place and 600 new FoH donations.

So no need to feel guilty everything at the PBS is fine. I am chuffed for them as I was worried about them :wink:

Perhaps the BIG team can help out other clubs as they are all about What is best for Scottish football.

Other than Celtic they seem best placed to handle a relegation so for the good of all perhaps they will accept it. Then again perhaps the squealing will continue.

Do Benny factors bring relied upon for them to survive etc.

Budge has leaked these stories to the media.

**** them I hope they get this proposal and vote blown out water

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23-05-2020, 01:36 PM
Sammy7nil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

600 new F O H Donations What does that take thier to total to
Maybe that’s Budges plan all along Stir up the masses get them on her side siege mentality like The Rangers and more money to squander
Credit in that it’s something we can’t seem to do

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Foundation of Hearts
@The_FOH
Through the month of May, we have had not much short of 300 new pledges or increased pledges. Absolutely unbelievable. If ever anyone doubted the resolve of @JamTarts supporters when the going gets tough, step up and have a long, hard look. #pledgeforlife

395
21:21 - 22 May 2020

Maybe 600 is a slight exaggeration :rolleyes:
23-05-2020, 01:36 PM
Rumble de Thump

I'm sure their employees who they threatened with the sack unless they accepted less money than they were owed will be delighted to hear that FOH and the benefactor are keeping the club in decent financial shape.
23-05-2020, 01:37 PM
Waxy

According to Budge, no club should be financially impacted due to the coronavirus pandemic, even if it means cheating.
23-05-2020, 01:41 PM
Lee Marvin

Benny Factor is still there but doesnt seem the current staffs wages as important enough. They are ****. Pure ****.
23-05-2020, 01:43 PM
HoboHarry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammy7nil

Foundation of Hearts
@The_FOH
Through the month of May, we have had not much short of 300 new pledges or increased pledges. Absolutely unbelievable. If ever anyone doubted the resolve of @JamTarts supporters when the going gets tough, step up and have a long, hard look. #pledgeforlife

395
21:21 - 22 May 2020

Maybe 600 is a slight exaggeration :rolleyes:

How many have withdrawn from contributing due to the financial implications of Covid?
23-05-2020, 01:56 PM
GloryGlory

Hertz go bust!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news...cid=spartandhp :wink: :greengrin
23-05-2020, 02:12 PM
Hibs4185

So now that benefactors and extra FOH members are in place, I guess they will be changing their players from cuts to deferments?!
23-05-2020, 02:40 PM
Irish_Steve

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Originally Posted by GloryGlory

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news...cid=spartandhp :wink: :greengrin

You need to keep up, been done already on the thread ;)
23-05-2020, 02:43 PM
grunt

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Originally Posted by Sammy7nil

BBC reporting Hearts are in a great financial position, Benny Factors in place and 600 new FoH donations.

New donations could just be this month's direct debits. If you were going to announce new members of FOH you'd use a different word, surely?
23-05-2020, 03:28 PM
Eyrie

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Originally Posted by Jim44

They’re now asking folk to text or phone in with ways that Hearts can be accommodated. :rolleyes:

They're already being accommodated in the second tier with the place that they earned through their performances last season.
23-05-2020, 03:42 PM
brog

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Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs

That came from somebody else as well. Do you have any evidence? Equities have bounced back so losses are about 15%. Apart from oil everything ekse look ok.

I agree with you on this but I'm not convinced Benny has disappeared. AFAIK these donations were not publicised at the time & we only know about them from the annual accounts. We probably would not know if donations are currently being made.
In the last 3 years, really the first supposedly normal trading years post Administration, Hearts have declared a profit every year for a grand total profit of £7.1m. In Scottish football terms those are outstanding results. However, in those 3 years Hearts have received donations totalling £8.8m without which they would have made a loss every single year for a total of £1.7m. In addition Hearts have made a profit of £1.2m in player sales in the last 3 years. Without those & the donations their average losses for the last 3 years are almost £1m per year. I still think that Budge is the most likely candidate to be Benny. IIRC she was originally intended to hand over to F of H in 2019 & you can bet phrases such as robust financial health, would have been banded about on handover. Her ego & reputation would have been bolstered despite the underlying figures, as above, being anything but healthy. The pandemic & current financial crisis has meant Hearts have had to confront the reality of the situation & possibly explains Budge's increasingly bizarre behaviour. I think her reputation means everything to her & there's no way now, even without relegation that she can pretend to be handing over a financially sound club.
I believe Hearts will survive but relegation will stretch them to the limit & IMO, a player fire sale is pretty much guaranteed.
23-05-2020, 03:45 PM
blackpoolhibs

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Originally Posted by Crazyhorse

Just to clarify I think Budge pulled it out of her ass.

With an arse that size, she could have picked a number much bigger.
23-05-2020, 04:29 PM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by Sammy7nil

Yeah credit to the Hearts fans they seem to have absolutely no concerns about throwing their hard earned cash at the black hole. :aok:

Nae bother. Hearts are sorted financially and we don’t need to waste another second worrying about them.
23-05-2020, 04:56 PM
hhibs

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Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

Brilliant from the St Mirren fans 😂

https://twitter.com/CairtersSMFC/sta...126370816?s=19

Excellent stuff and so deserved.
23-05-2020, 08:21 PM
Ozyhibby

Hearts should be runaway favourites for the championship next season but if they decide to only make it an 18 game season then the title race becomes a bit of a sprint. There will be little room for error and a bad start may be punished more than normal. They really should be focusing on getting in a new manager and start preparing.

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23-05-2020, 08:33 PM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Hearts should be runaway favourites for the championship next season but if they decide to only make it an 18 game season then the title race becomes a bit of a sprint. There will be little room for error and a bad start may be punished more than normal. They really should be focusing on getting in a new manager and start preparing.

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They’ll have 6 months prep time tho. Should be enough even for them.
23-05-2020, 08:43 PM
Glory Lurker

Hearts? Are they still a thing?
23-05-2020, 09:07 PM
jacomo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammy7nil

Foundation of Hearts
@The_FOH
Through the month of May, we have had not much short of 300 new pledges or increased pledges. Absolutely unbelievable. If ever anyone doubted the resolve of @JamTarts supporters when the going gets tough, step up and have a long, hard look. #pledgeforlife

395
21:21 - 22 May 2020

Maybe 600 is a slight exaggeration :rolleyes:

Staunch support,
23-05-2020, 10:26 PM
KeithTheHibby

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

600 new F O H Donations What does that take thier to total to
Maybe that’s Budges plan all along Stir up the masses get them on her side siege mentality like The Rangers and more money to squander
Credit in that it’s something we can’t seem to do

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Yet their season ticket sales are not above 3k as yet. Says it all.
23-05-2020, 10:30 PM
Waxy

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Originally Posted by Glory Lurker

Hearts? Are they still a thing?

Na no really.
23-05-2020, 10:42 PM
007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

600 new F O H Donations What does that take thier to total to
Maybe that’s Budges plan all along Stir up the masses get them on her side siege mentality like The Rangers and more money to squander
Credit in that it’s something we can’t seem to do

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Originally Posted by KeithTheHibby

Yet their season ticket sales are not above 3k as yet. Says it all.

They want to support their club but not actually watch them play football. 😂😂
24-05-2020, 10:19 AM
G B Young

I notice that Stendel has confirmed he is out of contract but has also suggested he has 'unfinished business' at Hearts.

Is his stock really so low now that he'd consider managing in a lower Scottish league on what would surely be a vastly reduced salary? Other clubs would still likely consider employing him if he made a big play of the fact the season was cut short, which prevented him saving the yams from the drop. He should actually be thankful that the season was ended early as his reputation really would have been shot when they ended up going down anyway after 38 games.

Or is he just keeping his options open with this sort of talk?
24-05-2020, 10:26 AM
Steven79

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Originally Posted by G B Young

I notice that Stendel has confirmed he is out of contract but has also suggested he has 'unfinished business' at Hearts.

Is his stock really so low now that he'd consider managing in a lower Scottish league on what would surely be a vastly reduced salary? Other clubs would still likely consider employing him if he made a big play of the fact the season was cut short, which prevented him saving the yams from the drop. He should actually be thankful that the season was ended early as his reputation really would have been shot when they ended up going down anyway after 38 games.

Or is he just keeping his options open with this sort of talk?

Keeping his options open I imagine...

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24-05-2020, 10:32 AM
Greenworld

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Originally Posted by HoboHarry

How many have withdrawn from contributing due to the financial implications of Covid?

I asked Stuart the guy that runs it that question and to fair he answered around 15 -20 . Not many . They are pumping over 125k every month into the club which is quite amazing really.

We don't seem to have the appetite to do something similar but season Ticket sales seems to be our way of supporting financially.

So hopefully to fans continue to buy them not seen an update lately anyone know where we are numbers wise?

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24-05-2020, 10:39 AM
Hibs4185

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Originally Posted by Greenworld

I asked Stuart the guy that runs it that question and to fair he answered around 15 -20 . Not many . They are pumping over 125k every month into the club which is quite amazing really.

We don't seem to have the appetite to do something similar but season Ticket sales seems to be our way of supporting financially.

So hopefully to fans continue to buy them not seen an update lately anyone know where we are numbers wise?

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There is a distinct different.

FOH was born out of absolute desperation or there would be no Heart of Midlothian football club.

Hubs luckily have never had the need for such a mechanism but I am 100% confident if hibs ever suffered such severe financial mismanagement then the fans would step up.

HSL was a chance for hibs fans to own a majority of the club but when the club is comfortable financially, then there wasn’t a massive appetite which is understandable.

Hearts fans can say hibs fans didn’t step up, but I’d rather not need to step up in the first place.
24-05-2020, 12:38 PM
jacomo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenworld

I asked Stuart the guy that runs it that question and to fair he answered around 15 -20 . Not many . They are pumping over 125k every month into the club which is quite amazing really.

We don't seem to have the appetite to do something similar but season Ticket sales seems to be our way of supporting financially.

So hopefully to fans continue to buy them not seen an update lately anyone know where we are numbers wise?

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Just confirms that Hearts have enviable access to cash and will be well insulated from financial impact of Covid 19 and relegation.
24-05-2020, 01:47 PM
PatHead

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Originally Posted by jacomo

Just confirms that Hearts have enviable access to cash and will be well insulated from financial impact of Covid 19 and relegation.

So no need to allow them special access to the Premiership.

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