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22-05-2020, 01:08 PM
RoxburghHibs

Aren't Hearts meant to be submitting "League recontruction v2.0" by today at the latest?
22-05-2020, 01:11 PM
The 90+2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wakeyhibee

I smell a rat....

The Email purported to be from Leslie Deans doesn't ring true.

if the legal case is strong, why urge all to share all over social media?

Timing is also suspicious the day before the proposal is submitted, whilst those factors have been known all along.

Is this a Hibby legal on the windup?
Or is this just a last ditch attempt to bully other clubs into reconstruction.

I think the latter and their bluff should be called. Legal action (no matter how strong/weak) would be disastrous for Hearts in more ways than one.

What letter?
22-05-2020, 01:12 PM
G B Young

Quote:

Originally Posted by O'Rourke3

Done and dusted. Like their vote, they've assumed someone emailed it to the SFPL. The hint something has gone wrong is Allisbarry is not over the twatter zone bumming it up.

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Spot on.
22-05-2020, 01:20 PM
Wakeyhibee

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90+2

What letter?

The latter one
22-05-2020, 01:21 PM
JeMeSouviens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

What’s the key points

Key point for me is its 20 mins long and I can't be arsed. :greengrin
22-05-2020, 01:21 PM
Blaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

What’s the key points

Just listened to it. Not a great deal new in it overall and no question asked regards reconstruction.

Extending contracts for out of contract players who he has no intention of signing afterwards won’t be happening. It’s against what he believes the furlough scheme is there for

Doesn’t expect the season to start until late August or possibly September

They are scaling back on various things to cut costs. Academy will probably have to take a back seat for a while. Expects to lose around 35% of previous seasons commercial income

Not selling season tickets at present until he can let supporters know what they will get for their money

Main points I picked up
22-05-2020, 01:30 PM
hibeerealist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Since90+2

Was widely reported in the media by various places when he was linked with a move last year.

Edit - just checked stories from around that time and it's 30% not 33%.

Not going to argue over 3%, still a nice deduction from the Duncan's dough!!
22-05-2020, 01:37 PM
mjhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

Key point for me is its 20 mins long and I can't be arsed. :greengrin

Was very informative. Laid out the reality of the situation. Academy shut for a year. No reserve team. 35% reduction in income. With the pars releasing 17 players we are now seeing the effects of this virus.
22-05-2020, 01:54 PM
Jdawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenworld

Its a wind up Saughton Jambo is not a Jambo i did not need a QC lol

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Really? 😂
22-05-2020, 02:06 PM
JeMeSouviens

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjhibby

Was very informative. Laid out the reality of the situation. Academy shut for a year. No reserve team. 35% reduction in income. With the pars releasing 17 players we are now seeing the effects of this virus.

Thanks for summarising. :aok:
22-05-2020, 02:10 PM
ancient hibee

If she was to go to court she might be in for a shock because the SPFL has no money.
22-05-2020, 02:16 PM
JohnMcM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjhibby

Was very informative. Laid out the reality of the situation. Academy shut for a year. No reserve team. 35% reduction in income. With the pars releasing 17 players we are now seeing the effects of this virus.

Thanks. Helpful of you.:agree:
22-05-2020, 02:17 PM
Jim44

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancient hibee

If she was to go to court she might be in for a shock because the SPFL has no money.

If she went to court and won, would any costs and compensation not have to be met by the 42 clubs? That would be popular.
22-05-2020, 02:26 PM
JimBHibees

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

New mascot unveiled:

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.1104...1000,075,f.jpg

Get a Hearts strip on that and it is spot on. :greengrin
22-05-2020, 02:31 PM
JimBHibees

Quote:

Originally Posted by green day

Bayern Munich, AC Milan, Man City - :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Not like Hearts to big themselves up...................

Just hope if Hickey is sold Chris Burke isn't playing against him as absolutely tortured him the last time.
22-05-2020, 02:39 PM
04Sauzee

doctor jambo doctor jambo

Posted 30 minutes ago
34 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said:
Games wont start below Prem without fans. We are in a worse position as we have more ongoing costs.

There MUST be an open and frank conversation with ALL clubs in Scotland now.

Everyone provides written proof and accounts from an auditor that proves they can field a team.

Those that can do this are grouped together and form the professional leagues.

Those that cannot go amateur.

Those still standing and can field teams get divided into divisions- full time in one and part time in the other.

Nothing else makes sense now
22-05-2020, 02:41 PM
Sammy7nil

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

doctor jambo doctor jambo

Posted 30 minutes ago
34 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said:
Games wont start below Prem without fans. We are in a worse position as we have more ongoing costs.

There MUST be an open and frank conversation with ALL clubs in Scotland now.

Everyone provides written proof and accounts from an auditor that proves they can field a team.

Those that can do this are grouped together and form the professional leagues.

Those that cannot go amateur.

Those still standing and can field teams get divided into divisions- full time in one and part time in the other.

Nothing else makes sense now

Meanwhile in the real world 🌎
22-05-2020, 02:42 PM
04Sauzee

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyeSloan

Did one of Ann’s infamous statements not suggest that she had a reconstruction proposal that she was going to email the premiership teams after the meeting where reconstruction was first torpedoed.

I’m sure she said that and was hinting that it was so unfair they had discussed it just before she had hit send on the email..

Yet here we are weeks after that meeting and still we await Ann’s grand plan.

I'm sure she said if the finished the season and the decision was made to relegate Hearts she wouldn't fight it? I'm sure it's on film somewhere
22-05-2020, 02:48 PM
Bostonhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

doctor jambo doctor jambo

Posted 30 minutes ago
34 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said:
Games wont start below Prem without fans. We are in a worse position as we have more ongoing costs.

There MUST be an open and frank conversation with ALL clubs in Scotland now.

Everyone provides written proof and accounts from an auditor that proves they can field a team.

Those that can do this are grouped together and form the professional leagues.

Those that cannot go amateur.

Those still standing and can field teams get divided into divisions- full time in one and part time in the other.

Nothing else makes sense now

I remember the last time they'd so much riding on a set of accounts, jeez they even declared themselves to be "self sufficient".

We're beyond desperation now it seems, or someone's at the wind up.

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22-05-2020, 02:50 PM
Waxy

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

doctor jambo doctor jambo

Posted 30 minutes ago
34 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said:
Games wont start below Prem without fans. We are in a worse position as we have more ongoing costs.

There MUST be an open and frank conversation with ALL clubs in Scotland now.

Everyone provides written proof and accounts from an auditor that proves they can field a team.

Those that can do this are grouped together and form the professional leagues.

Those that cannot go amateur.

Those still standing and can field teams get divided into divisions- full time in one and part time in the other.

Nothing else makes sense now

Making up false doomsday scenario to escape relegation. Next.
22-05-2020, 02:52 PM
Skol

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

doctor jambo doctor jambo

Posted 30 minutes ago
34 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said:
Games wont start below Prem without fans. We are in a worse position as we have more ongoing costs.

There MUST be an open and frank conversation with ALL clubs in Scotland now.

Everyone provides written proof and accounts from an auditor that proves they can field a team.

Those that can do this are grouped together and form the professional leagues.

Those that cannot go amateur.

Those still standing and can field teams get divided into divisions- full time in one and part time in the other.

Nothing else makes sense now

Going to go out on a limb here and say that I think there is some merit in this. Many clubs will just need to batten down the hatches for a while.

Maybe we should have one division for one season but on the basis that we go back to normal after that at which point hearts are in the championship.
22-05-2020, 02:53 PM
hibbyfraelibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by HibbiesandtheBaddies

"Hearts could face 18-game Championship season as Neil Doncaster issues Betfred Cup concern..."

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...oncern-2861971

That's not a lot of money coming in through the turnstiles for poor Hearts. It's not fair.

My kind of reconstruction!
22-05-2020, 03:00 PM
hibeerealist

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

doctor jambo doctor jambo

Posted 30 minutes ago
34 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said:
Games wont start below Prem without fans. We are in a worse position as we have more ongoing costs.

There MUST be an open and frank conversation with ALL clubs in Scotland now.

Everyone provides written proof and accounts from an auditor that proves they can field a team.

Those that can do this are grouped together and form the professional leagues.

Those that cannot go amateur.

Those still standing and can field teams get divided into divisions- full time in one and part time in the other.

Nothing else makes sense now

Pity auditors could not get a look at Hertz books when self sufficient Southern was lying through his back teeth!! Aye and Hertz considered the effects of their lying on other teams, Dundee???
22-05-2020, 03:00 PM
04Sauzee

Quote:

Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby

My kind of reconstruction!

A slow start and they may struggle to come back up
22-05-2020, 03:02 PM
bingo70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skol

Going to go out on a limb here and say that I think there is some merit in this. Many clubs will just need to batten down the hatches for a while.

Maybe we should have one division for one season but on the basis that we go back to normal after that at which point hearts are in the championship.

I think so too.

I think some teams will have to go part time, possibly amateur and will just be relatively happy to have a league to go into. I don’t think the post being laughed at is as ridiculous as it seems.

I don’t think your second paragraph is workable though.
22-05-2020, 03:04 PM
ancient hibee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim44

If she went to court and won, would any costs and compensation not have to be met by the 42 clubs? That would be popular.

I suspect that would provide the legal profession with work for years particularly as some clubs would say they voted for reconstruction.No doubt there will be strange clauses in the SPFL constitution regarding liabilities.
22-05-2020, 03:07 PM
JeMeSouviens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skol

Going to go out on a limb here and say that I think there is some merit in this. Many clubs will just need to batten down the hatches for a while.

Maybe we should have one division for one season but on the basis that we go back to normal after that at which point hearts are in the championship.

I would've thought full-time lower league teams with a consequently higher cost base would struggle more than the part-timers though? From a prem pov, the teams are all full time and will struggle enough with the tv pot split 12 ways. Nobody's going to want to dilute that even further.
22-05-2020, 03:10 PM
Greenworld

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

I'm sure she said if the finished the season and the decision was made to relegate Hearts she wouldn't fight it? I'm sure it's on film somewhere

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport...believe-right/

She did whats changed ?

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22-05-2020, 03:20 PM
Rumble de Thump

Any clubs that have shown their financial mismangement means they rely heavily on donations and still can't pay their employees' wages might have to be liquidated.
22-05-2020, 03:21 PM
Aldo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenworld

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport...believe-right/

She did whats changed ?

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She’s not got a clue and cannot remember what she’s said. Simples.

Tell you whose been quiet.... her chum Mr English!

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