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I like it too...but Daphne is just ridiculous for UK viewers, she’s so badly scripted, they could at least have got some sort of Manchester dialogue coach in there. Eddie and Frasiers dad have the funniest relationship IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilson
It lost its way for a while when they introduced Daphne’s family. I almost stopped watching at that point. Can’t beat the sibling rivalry of Frasier and Niles IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Jane Leeves spoke about this on the bbc a few years agoQuote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
They didn't want an actual Manchester accent or especially British sounding dialogue. They just wanted something that sounded a bit working class but that Americans would be able to understand. I love the part she plays - once you get past the accent of course.
I felt the same at the time ut came out. I have since caught the odd episode with Daphne's mother on channel 4. I was surprised at how funny she was in them because I remembered her character really grating at the time. Turns out I don't have much bad to say about the series at all!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Modfather
5 episodes into the third day , It's completely bonkers but i find myself fascinated by it
Just started watching Vikings .
Late to the party but it looks decent so far.
Watched “Hitsville - The Making Of Mowtown” on Sky Arts last night. Best programme I’ve seen on Mowtown, was brilliant and gave excellent insight.
It's excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeping giant
The Lance Armstrong documentary on the BBC is a great watch.
Was going to say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
I didn't know that it was out, and only caught the first episode last night.
Line of duty series 5 finished
Every single series was outstanding :top marks
Agreed, Andy. Series six being filmed now ✅Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Really enjoying Schitts Creek.
The Cult of the Family (Sky Crime), 3 episode series about a cult in Australia, quite unpleasant viewing.
Just finished The Sopranos, my 2nd or third time through and my wife’s first. She thought it was decent enough, but it’s not really her kind of show. I hadn’t watched it in years but was quite surprised to find it wasn’t quite as good as I remembered and also slower. Still a game changer, but didn’t think it held up all that well nowadays, unlike something like The Wire which is every bit as good today as it was at the time IMO.
I loved the Sopranos at the time - I have a mate who’s never watched it although I reckoned it be right up his street. He watched the first couple of episodes and gave up - he thought it was dated.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Modfather
I'm on my third attempt at trying to watch it. It's a slow burn over the first few episodes and I imagine much of the first season is hindered by the need to introduce and set the scene for so many characters. I sat down for a good few episodes this time and liked it well enough to go back to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
There are things that date it but you can say that about all good tv series that people still reference 20 years later.
I'm not raving about It yet but an going to stick with it and see how it goes.
Started watching The Alienest on Netflix.
Season 1 is pretty good but the main standout is Martin Boyle playing Ted Roosevelt as the NYPD Commissioner...maybe it’s just me but the likeness is uncanny and I find it hilarious every time Boyler appears! So much so the Mrs is getting fair annoyed at me chuckling away at the squirrels performances [emoji23][emoji23]
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Really enjoyed the first iteration of the return of Unsolved Mysteries on Netflix, but the second batch weren't quite as good IMO.
I enjoyed the stories about Jack Wheeler (ex White House aide found dead in a dumpster) and 'Jennifer Fairgate', an unidentified woman found dead in her hotel room in Norway, but the final 3 episodes did nothing for me...
Ive just rewatched it after quite a few years away, it’s still right up there with the best TV ever made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
I couldn’t even finish the Japanese episode, a load of rubbish. I liked the two you mentioned as well especially the jack Wheeler episode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
It is unfortunately dated but it is still utterly brilliant TV and along with 24 broke TV rules and boundaries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
It's funny to rewatch for me because I live smack bang in the middle of where it's based and so much has, and hasn't, changed.
The Blacklist... End of discussion [emoji16][emoji16] watched all 7 seasons and James Spader is an absolute genius.
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He was brilliant on Boston Legal too.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevesFamau5
Im interested in this idea of ‘dated TV’. What dates it; production costs, dialogue, style? What? Obviously something like I Claudius is dated, which affects my enjoyment of it because it’s more like watching a play, but aren’t all TV shows more than ten years old ‘dated’? It’s not an argumentative point, I’m genuinely wondering about examples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haymaker
A couple of contrasting examples i can think of in recent times would be The Wire and Gavin & Stacey.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
With The Wire the whole concept of pay phones and pay as you go mobiles just seems from another era. Street dealers are peddling their wares on Instagram and Snapchat now and the Pirate Bay and the like revolutionised the sale of drugs. Drugs went digital. 'Burner phones' are still a thing but it just feels old. With Gavin & Stacey the show is based on the idea that 2 people who are effectively strangers can meet up for the 1st time whilst knowing nothing more than the information they have garnered from a few phone calls. That idea just wouldn't work as a new series in the world of Tinder, Facebook and so on. I caught an episode of Malcolm in The Middle last night and it looked like something from the 70s, everything about it looked old. In my head that show was still recent then I noticed the episode dated from 2001, a different world.
I don't think being dated really detracts from my enjoyment of shows. In some cases it enhances it, an example would be the earlier seasons of Still Game where the grainier pre HD filming adds to the show. I think if something is obviously set in the past it's easy to adapt to that but if you remember the show as being contemporary and then revisit it in a world that has changed it appears different, not necessarily worse but changed.
Hard sun , Really enjoyed it , Weird as hell but i can do weird
Never got renewed for a 2nd season , Shame
Great answer :agree: I suppose if a contemporary show (Like the recent sky atlantic ‘the affair’ truly awful TV) ‘feels dated’, that’s a negative critique, but if a historical show like ‘The Sopranos’ feels dated, well, that’s just because it is, by definition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I may have mentioned this before (I know I have, every day for a week), but...the West Wing.
Toby Ziegler is potentially my favourite character of all time.
I thought it was good too.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Yeah I would have a different idea of what makes a TV show dated, from the examples mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
For me it would be about the ideas/concept and execution. For example - and I’ve not watched a single episode but from what I gather - Mrs Browns Boys was dated from the outset. It was an old fashioned sitcom with a dated visual approach.
That’s different from a show that may have aged poorly. I would not personally say for one second that The Sopranos or The Wire have aged poorly. Naturally they have things like pagers that reflect a show of that particular time period. Not dated in the slightest though.
Whereas something like Friends, there are certain episodes where characters are pretty homophobic - that is dated stuff and hasn’t aged well. 24 maybe another one, where the characters are pretty jingoistic and it’s fairly prejudiced against people of certain backgrounds (oh look this brown guy must be a terrorist!) - that to me is dated.
I should add that The Wire and The Sopranos are my top 2 favourite shows of all time!
I mainly agree, but social media was well-developed by the time Gavin and Stacey hit our screens. I'm not on social media but, if your point is that strangers can glean more from that than they could from telephone calls,.I'm very grateful for the fact!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Been watching Queens Gambit on Netflix, 5 episodes in and absolutely loving it. If you’ve got the slightest interest in chess then it’s a must see. But it’s so much more than just that, great storyline and 60’s nostalgia. Can’t recommend it enough.
Seconded. And I couldn't be less interested in chess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfiembra
How the hell I stuck with Roadkill I've no idea. Worst BBC drama I've seen in years.
Loved it too. Not a big chess fan either. Great TVQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Sarf
"The Sinner" on Netflix is a decent watch.
Which season are you on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
I enjoyed the first couple :dunno: Nothing tells me it’s not worth persevering with to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
I've watched the first 2 seasons and enjoyed them both. The 3rd season isn't available here yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
I'm currently watching the first season of Dirty John. I couldn't really be bothered with it at first but I'm finding it pretty good.
Finished season 3 last night. Enjoyed the first 2 better but 3 was decent enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
I would agree with that. 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
The final season of each are OK but for me I’d not have bothered in hindsight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Sinner 1-2 and Dirty John 1 are rather good though [emoji106]
Another vote for Queens Gambit from me and really enjoyed both seasons of The Alienest recently.
Someone suggested Black Monday on Sky to me recently, anyone watched that?
Watching Guilt on BBC iPlayer. Not sure when it first aired but a few Hibs mentions in it so far (including a nice Arthur Seat view of the stadium.
Only a couple of episodes in and it's really good. Very dark humour and good story line.
I’m watching the haunting of Bly manor, I’m finding it a bit slow and predictable which is a shame as the haunting of hill house was excellent.
If you think it's slow just now wait till the last couple of episodes. Absolute tripe. Get out now whilst you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Absolutely this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby70
I enjoyed Hill House, it wasn't really original but it was quite scary and there were interesting elements.
Bly Manor was telegraphed nonsense. Oh look a ghost on the edge of the shot in the background. Oh one of the characters is a ghost, that's never been done before.
I stuck with it in the hope it might redeem itself but if anything the ending compounded the pishness of the whole thing. Oh and I hear enough of Peppa Pigs voice as it is with a 3 year old in the house.
I watched the first episode and decided it was going straight in the bin...sounds like I made the right decision on that front then [emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Watched the first 2 episodes of The Undoing on Sky Atlantic. Nicole Kidman, Hugh Grant, Donald Sutherland. I’m enjoying it.
It's been good - trying to find the angle for the inevitable twist, have a few theories that I'll not post so to avoid spoilers.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
Nicole Kidman is lovely.
Really enjoyed that - think it aired about a year ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby70
Cheers for the tip :aok: Really enjoying thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibby70
Someone I was at school with is in it. He also narrates the Hearts propaganda piece on BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby70
The Vow on SKY Documentaries, only watched the first 2 episodes but, it's some weird cult ****! 😲
Anyone watched Humans. I'm on episode 3 and still not sure about what to make of it. Me and the Mrs love watching stuff that fuels philosophical debate and so far it's done that without being spectacularly great viewing.
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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
I watched the Swedish original "Real Humans" last year and found it pretty good. More recently I started watching the English version but only lasted about 15 minutes after deciding that there wasn't much point.
I enjoyed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
I didn't realise it was a remake. I'll have a look at the Swedish version. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Thanks, I'll bash on.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
I agree with your analysis of it. As well as the Swedish version there’s a Russian show on Netflix that is very similar called Better than us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
I enjoyed it, it does raise some questions about the use of AI. Stick with it is my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
I’ve watched 4 now and still liking it.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
I’d not be surprised if we had similar theories!
Just watched it and starting to find it a bit annoying. Seems a bit of a cheap trick to have a “twist” at the end of episode 3 which is then dismissed in the first 5 minutes of the next episode.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
I thought from the outset also, you don’t have Donald Sutherland in something just to play the rich dad. Ultimately you know there is more to come there, which is a bit of a distraction
It gets freakier as each ep goes by!Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
For those that like historical documentaries I can highly recommend "Berlin 1945" on BBC iplayer. Some great film footage and incredible eyewitness accounts from all sides of the conflict, the civilian side of the story is particularly interesting.
I don’t really watch tv much but I’m thinking of starting watching the Expanse on prime. Anyone seen it? Is it worth watching?
Ona totally different tip the iplayer has an old doc about the re-birth of the flying Scotsman. Search 4472 to find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Not only does it have some great footage of the engine the interviews with the new owner and those on train and the various shots of the UK / Edinburgh back in the 60’s are just brilliant.
I enjoyed it, it’s a proper sci-fi show.Quote:
Originally Posted by CmoantheHibs
Yep, I’ve watched that and feel it was brilliantly done ✅Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Just finished the last ever episode, bit of a disappointing ending, very good overall though.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
I watched this recently and it really is worth watching 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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Small Axe on bbc1 has been very good so far.
Just started Gracepoint with David Tennent but apparently it's a remake of a series called Broadchurch , Now tempted to ditch this version as it's american and watch the British version
Aye it is, he is the main man in both versions.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Cannae find Broadchurch on Netflix or catch up :no way:Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
It's available on YouTube. 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Nice one Hutch :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Nae bother.
Just watched the final episode of Brave New World on SKY1, interesting series for a number of reasons!
Anyone watched Black Mirror and can give a thumbs up/down?
I like it. A sort of modern day cross between tales of the unexpected and the twighlight zone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Same here, started it yesterday. I'd already watched Broadchurch and it was good. Gracepoint is worth watching, even if only to see a different cultural slant to the exact same story.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Watched the final episode of the undoing last night.
Absolutely superb throughout - highlights were the final scenes in court. Nicole Kidman and Hugh Grant absolutely superb throughout.
Just don't watch the episode about the automated warehouse and then wander into the Amazon thread.😆Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
I watched a movie called 'Balloon' on the BBCiplayer recently.
I thought from the films title that it might be a follow on from the Hearts documentary, and it might be about Craig Levein, but turns out its about a family attempting to escape from East Germany to the West.
It's based on a true story. English Subtitles, and it's gripping stuff.
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This series of Taskmaster has been one of the best. All five of them are genuinely funny this time around.
I was given a Now TV smart stick with a months pass as a gift. Can anyone recommend what to watch? I’ve watched The Undoing and I Love you now Die, and I’m currently watching The Murder of Martha Moxley. I’m studying for a degree in Criminology so I’m fascinated with true crime and crime dramas, but I’m open minded to other programs also.
Lots of good telly available on Now TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by EH6 Hibby
Band of Brothers
The Night Of (brilliant crime drama!)
Sopranos
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Flight of the Concords
The Jinx (crime documentary)
Thanks for that. I’ve seen The Night Of, and loved it, and I’ve also seen the Jinx. Will have a look at your other suggestions.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
I've almost got to the end of s1 of Prodigal Son and have just found out the guy that plays the lead role also played the part of Jesus in The Walking Dead, never even crossed my mind! 😃
I realised quite quickly but have given up on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
And why is his mother only about 10 years older than him.
Think she’s from Dundee.Quote:
Originally Posted by patch1875
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Originally Posted by The Modfather
Has anyone been watching Star Trek Discovery? I’m waiting till all episodes are available so I can binge watch it.
I thought it was decent to start with but it's very post MTV generation and the viewer is bombarded with hundreds of different scenes within a very short period of time. It's more like Star Wars in my opinion where the emphasis is on action rather than literary substance. Still enjoyed it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
I wasn’t too sure about it for the first 2 seasons and agree that it was more Star Wars than Star Trek, but I’m really enjoying season 3 it really seems to be trying to tie in with all the previous iterations of Star Trek with name drops and even the sound effects you can recognise going right back to the original series.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Cheers, I’m looking forward to watching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfiembra
Heading towards the end of the first season of Goliath on Amazon Prime, quite good so far.
I'm a big Trek fan and I think it's my favourite edition of the franchise yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Interestingly, considering Hibrandenburg and Alfiembra's comments, I don't like Star Wars. :greengrin