What's the latest with Youan?

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

It shouldnt need saying but thats because Joe’s injury and Elie’s injury are different injuries and won’t heal the same. It is POSSIBLE that one player is playing through a pain barrier and one isn’t but we have absolutely no evidence either way. As was said above, we all have a choice; give our player the benefit of the doubt or don’t.

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Yes you are correct that players heal differently but some will step up and some won’t. So my point stands.

Without having concrete evidence I’m sure that the fans of the majority of clubs will have similar type discussions about their players.

If I’ve read correctly Joe played through the injury until he could play no more. That’s enough for me to suggest he stepped up.

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Originally Posted by 1875Sean

If we get anything over £1m we should take it

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Correct.

Would bite their hand off.

Bar a couple of occasions Elie goes missing when the going gets tough.

Not to be relied upon in the long term.

I love players like Elie Youan, albeit he is probably too hot or cold for what we need just now. If he was in a better team, he’d probably have more freedom and less pressure if he wasn’t at his best, but just now we need every single player to be putting in a shift (he has recently though without a doubt and has been back to his old self).

Anything above £1m sounds like a good result and would be interested to see how he gets on in the Championship.

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Originally Posted by Centre Hawf

I have to admit from a cynical point of view that if he is miraculously healed by this injection to play next week once the window is closed it doesn't exactly help halt the conspiracy theory that he didn't play to avoid scuppering a January exit like his injury in the summer most likely did.

Either way I don't care what happens. Elie is one of our best players when he fancies it, but at the same time there is a lingering aura of uncertainty over some things with him that we could probably do without with the added benefit of a decent 7 figure sum into the accounts too. If he does end up staying then hopefully he's motivated to be the best version of himself and earn a move in the summer and everyone can move on happy.

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As to wither Youan is injured or not I’m more in the camp of thinking there is a bit of an issue injury wise there .I don’t think faking a injury in order to get a move would be the best move as opposed to playing well and scoring or providing assists which would put yourself further in the shop window with other clubs these past four weeks.

I’m sort of where you are at with it in wither he stays or goes . If he stays we have kept a very good player at the club and if he goes hopefully we get a decent offer for him and invest it in a couple of good quality players…

One thing I wouldn’t be happy about is if we let him go for what some have said in 1 to 1.5mil as I believe he’s worth more than that and I would be expecting a minimum of 2 mil for him which I don’t think the latest club Blackburn that’s linked with him would be willing to pay.

Gray has provided a detailed update on Youan’s fitness.

All very elaborate to cover for a lier and a non trier eh?

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Originally Posted by TrinityHFC

Gray has provided a detailed update on Youan’s fitness.

All very elaborate to cover for a lier and a non trier eh?

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Yeh.Boots the story into Row ZZ.

Hopefully his sore toe doesn't scupper any potential medical.

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Originally Posted by HFC93

Hopefully his sore toe doesn't scupper any potential medical.

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No reason it should. Medicals just provide info for the buying team to take a call on.

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Originally Posted by The Spaceman

I love players like Elie Youan, albeit he is probably too hot or cold for what we need just now. If he was in a better team, he’d probably have more freedom and less pressure if he wasn’t at his best, but just now we need every single player to be putting in a shift (he has recently though without a doubt and has been back to his old self).

Anything above £1m sounds like a good result and would be interested to see how he gets on in the Championship.

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I know what you mean, the thing is Elie thinks he's aa step up, and should have the freedom (which is the problem) no players get that freedom anymore in a good level team. Every player has specific instructions. Only the really elite superstar guys get that freedom.

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Originally Posted by Not In The Know

I know what you mean, the thing is Elie thinks he's aa step up, and should have the freedom (which is the problem) no players get that freedom anymore in a good level team. Every player has specific instructions. Only the really elite superstar guys get that freedom.

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How do you know what he thinks?

Despite every ‘fact’ getting set straight he constantly gets questioned on his attitude. What’s behind it? Because everyone that works with him says how great an attitude he has and how hard he’d works.

Pretty much all of his apparent personality has been constructed by nonsense statements on here.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

What sort of toe injury keeps a player out for over a month when it’s not broken and nothing else has shown up on a scan?

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You ever tried to strike through a ball with a sore toe . Excrutiating He was told to rest it and it shoukd sort itself but it wasn’t Allegedly

He was scanned weeks ago - as per Dave. So why did they wait till this week to eventually give him a steroid injection? Its pretty common in football to give these injections to help with swelling and pain relief so its very odd to wait till hes been out for 4 weeks to do it. I look forward to him being in the team next week. :agree:

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Originally Posted by TrinityHFC

How do you know what he thinks?

Despite every ‘fact’ getting set straight he constantly gets questioned on his attitude. What’s behind it? Because everyone that works with him says how great an attitude he has and how hard he’d works.

Pretty much all of his apparent personality has been constructed by nonsense statements on here.

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People can make their own assessment. We're talking about a guy who has argued with fans during and after games in person. Telling fans online that he can't wait to leave. Posting his own clip reels after getting gubbed 3-0 in a derby.

Plenty of reason to question his attitude if you're so inclined.

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Originally Posted by Brightside

He was scanned weeks ago - as per Dave. So why did they wait till this week to eventually give him a steroid injection? Its pretty common in football to give these injections to help with swelling and pain relief so its very odd to wait till hes been out for 4 weeks to do it. I look forward to him being in the team next week. :agree:

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Do you get these injections straight after the injury, surely he works with the physio first then after a few weeks they will get the injection which doesn’t always do the job.

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Originally Posted by Hibees1973

Correct.

Would bite their hand off.

Bar a couple of occasions Elie goes missing when the going gets tough.

Not to be relied upon in the long term.

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The usual drivel talking down our players.

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Originally Posted by Hibees1973

Correct.

Would bite their hand off.

Bar a couple of occasions Elie goes missing when the going gets tough.

Not to be relied upon in the long term.

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Originally Posted by RIP

The usual drivel talking down our players.

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I think that's a really unfair assessment of Elie Youan.

He's been really good since Gray has given him regular game time and, on his day, can be special.

That said, I think the Club could have been/should be giving us a bit more information about his absence and why it's taken him so long to get over what was initially described as a minor injury. Decent information might help stop the gossip that we see here and elsewhere.

Given his qualities, he's not a player I'd want to lose, so keeping my fingers crossed that he'll back playing for us again soon.

Outwith any player The Uglies have, Ellie Youan is the most skilful and talented player in the SPL. Really hope he stays after this window and gives us more of what he was prior to his injury. We are lucky to have him.

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Originally Posted by Roxyhibee

Outwith any player The Uglies have, Ellie Youan is the most skilful and talented player in the SPL. Really hope he stays after this window and gives us more of what he was prior to his injury. We are lucky to have him.

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Not this season. He’s got the same number of goals (2) and assists (1) as Rocky. We’re two days away from being into February!

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Originally Posted by Brightside

He was scanned weeks ago - as per Dave. So why did they wait till this week to eventually give him a steroid injection? Its pretty common in football to give these injections to help with swelling and pain relief so its very odd to wait till hes been out for 4 weeks to do it. I look forward to him being in the team next week. :agree:

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It’s not really odd. There are many old footballers hirpling around because they were treated with injections instead of longer term physio to get them back playing more quickly.

Johnson and Monty played Elie far too deep and wide.

David Gray sees him as a natural striker. Any club signing him will play him up front as a penalty box goal threat.

Quite noticeable how our attacking play has dipped since he's been out of the team. Two lame draws against the bottom two SPL sides.

Selling Youan would signify a betrayal of ambition by Mackay and the Board. Gray wants to finish the window stronger than he started it.

I hope the Directors are reading the room.

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Originally Posted by Brightside

He was scanned weeks ago - as per Dave. So why did they wait till this week to eventually give him a steroid injection? Its pretty common in football to give these injections to help with swelling and pain relief so its very odd to wait till hes been out for 4 weeks to do it. I look forward to him being in the team next week. :agree:

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Did you read his comments? He was back training last week and it still wasn’t right so he went back for the scans.

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Originally Posted by The Modfather

Not this season. He’s got the same number of goals (2) and assists (1) as Rocky. We’re two days away from being into February!

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He’s been a hugely important part of our turnaround, we’d have won at least 2 of our 3 draws this month if he’d been playing

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Originally Posted by The Modfather

Not this season. He’s got the same number of goals (2) and assists (1) as Rocky. We’re two days away from being into February!

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Fairly obvious why. Its been an injury blighted season for him. It’d be pretty weird if he had 10+ goals and 10+assists again like previously based on the amount he’s played. And when hes played hes been mostly very good.

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Originally Posted by The Modfather

Not this season. He’s got the same number of goals (2) and assists (1) as Rocky. We’re two days away from being into February!

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He’s had an unfortunate season for injuries and the team as a whole has only started to get its act together past few months and he’s played a big part in that. When he leaves, our neighbours across the city will be mightily relieved, trust me. And that tells you all you need to know about his abilities.

Very rarely do you get scan results right away.

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Originally Posted by RIP

Johnson and Monty played Elie far too deep and wide.

David Gray sees him as a natural striker. Any club signing him will play him up front as a penalty box goal threat.

Quite noticeable how our attacking play has dipped since he's been out of the team. Two lame draws against the bottom two SPL sides.

Selling Youan would signify a betrayal of ambition by Mackay and the Board. Gray wants to finish the window stronger than he started it.

I hope the Directors are reading the room.

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Johnson and Monty played Elie far too deep and wide. They didn't.

David Gray sees him as a natural striker. He doesn't.

Any club signing him will play him up front as a penalty box goal threat. They won't.

Selling Youan would signify a betrayal of ambition by Mackay and the Board. It wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by Tyler Durden

Johnson and Monty played Elie far too deep and wide. They didn't.

David Gray sees him as a natural striker. He doesn't.

Any club signing him will play him up front as a penalty box goal threat. They won't.

Selling Youan would signify a betrayal of ambition by Mackay and the Board. It wouldn't.

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Sums it up perfectly. This thread is a nightmare.

So many strange takes. The boy is quality, loves being here but wants to test himself at a higher level.

He’s had an absolute nightmare with injuries this season but when he has played he’s contributed wholesomely.

We’ve not got an another player with his talent in the squad. Read sell him for 1 million haha, good one.

Youan, Boyle and Bowie fighting for 2 starting places upfront with Gayle as the impact sub and Myko in reserve is a good place for us to be for the rest of the season.

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Originally Posted by andrew70

Sums it up perfectly. This thread is a nightmare.

So many strange takes. The boy is quality, loves being here but wants to test himself at a higher level.

He’s had an absolute nightmare with injuries this season but when he has played he’s contributed wholesomely.

We’ve not got an another player with his talent in the squad. Read sell him for 1 million haha, good one.

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We seem to do the same with all our 'mercurial' talents, especially if they are foreign. Scott Allan didn't get it so much even though he did actively want to move at some point.

Off the top of my head Benji, Zemmama, Malonga and Youan all had the some sort of stuff aimed at them about only playing when it suited them, going in the huff, faking injuries, poor attitude and so on. In a few years, like the rest, maybe we will appreciate what we had.

He's shown a great attitude, folk wrote him off. He got into a heated moment at the end off the game with a few supporters. He has turned it around and I value him as a key player.