Shaun Maloney - Style of play

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22-12-2021, 08:24 AM
J-C

I just hope all the Maloney nay sayers realise he can't change things overnight, guaranteed they'll be on here tonight saying where's the difference, same old etc.
22-12-2021, 08:26 AM
sahpaton

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Originally Posted by Hibees1973

Fine words, but players trump tactics and after watching Hibs for the last couple of months we have nowhere near enough players to implement a passing style of play.

We have hardly any fast skilful players able to take the football in tight areas and build constructively. Maloney will have to be some kind of miracle worker to transform the players we currently have then recruit footballing players on the cheap.

The first transfer window is vital for Maloney to get off to a good start and get us moving up the table.

My feeling is his comments are incredibly naive and lack understanding of what the game is like up here. Only my opinion but we will see if Maloney is a miracle worker.

He said it’s down to him and his staff to adapt to the players, not the other way round. He obviously doesn’t expect to come in and turn us into Belgium with a couple of passing and positional drills. Think you’re the one being naive if you’ve taken that from a perfectly sound interview detailing the large task at hand.
22-12-2021, 08:30 AM
bingo70

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Originally Posted by cam75

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fjLZ1_3nLcE
Worth a watch if not already up 👍

Interesting.

I wonder if there’s any significance he originally comes from a futsal background.

I don’t really know much about it, I know it’s known for individual technical skills but is there more that is transferable to real football?
22-12-2021, 08:32 AM
Keith_M

I expect we'll get hints of how he wants to play the game this season but, if it's different from how Ross set out his team (and we really won't know that for a while), it's not necessarily going to be an instant change as it's still the same squad.
22-12-2021, 08:46 AM
Coco Bryce

Just listened to the latest Open Goal podcast.

Loads of high praise for Maloney from the lads that know him well and his dedication for perfection and things done in a professional manner.

Well worth a listen.
22-12-2021, 08:57 AM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by S4uzee

Great post. I remember leaving that Kilmarnock game disappointed at the result but amazed at the difference in performance

Mowbray was very open and out-spoken about the changes he was implementing and the way he wanted us to play. So even though early results weren’t great, fans could compare those words with the way we were playing and say ‘yup, I can see what we are trying to do here.’

Something similar happened with Stubbs - again, early results weren’t great, but he was open about needing to build a new team and try out different combinations and you could see players trying to make it work.

I think Maloney should also be upfront and honest from the start. It will help everyone know what to expect.
22-12-2021, 09:02 AM
w pilton hibby

Open letter from the new manager

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...-shaun-maloney
22-12-2021, 09:11 AM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by w pilton hibby

Open letter from the new manager

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...-shaun-maloney

I stopped reading at "reach out".

Baloney out. :greengrin
22-12-2021, 09:11 AM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by w pilton hibby

Open letter from the new manager

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...-shaun-maloney

:grr:
Who the hell does he think he is
22-12-2021, 09:11 AM
Hibs90

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Originally Posted by w pilton hibby

Open letter from the new manager

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...-shaun-maloney

Nice touch, wonder if it was Shaun's idea.
22-12-2021, 09:31 AM
w pilton hibby

Video inside training

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...aining-session
22-12-2021, 09:40 AM
Stokesy's on fire

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Originally Posted by Viva_Palmeiras

The future is maybe with the kids.

We can't keep building for the future we started that process years ago we need to be ready now.
22-12-2021, 11:19 AM
Since452

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Originally Posted by w pilton hibby

Video inside training

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...aining-session

Interesting that. Not sure how much that differs to JR but interesting watch. Only a short clip but doesn't seem very vocal.
22-12-2021, 11:54 AM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by Stokesy's on fire

We can't keep building for the future we started that process years ago we need to be ready now.

:agree:

Drives me mad. Maloney says the ‘long term’ ambition is to win cups.

We were literally 90 minutes away from lifting a cup at the weekend.
22-12-2021, 11:55 AM
Fuzzywuzzy

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...IC3I3M9E6JjEOw

Open letter from Maloney if not already posted
22-12-2021, 11:56 AM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

I stopped reading at "reach out".

Baloney out. :greengrin

Feel the passion and inspirational moments.
22-12-2021, 12:19 PM
wookie70

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

I stopped reading at "reach out".

Baloney out. :greengrin

It is a phrase that I hate and to be honest that looks like it was written by someone in a Comms Team. Nothing wrong with it but it feels plastic and without any real feeling. It is a say all the right things in the right order and make sure you echo everything the CEO has been saying. Nothing that inspires or excites as far as I am concerned and like most he will be judged on how we play on the park and the results those performances bring. Hopefully, he won't find it a challenge for long as a bad 10 game spell might mean he is looking for another challenge.
22-12-2021, 12:21 PM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by J-C

I just hope all the Maloney nay sayers realise he can't change things overnight, guaranteed they'll be on here tonight saying where's the difference, same old etc.

How about giving the snidey comments a rest eh?
22-12-2021, 12:22 PM
bingo70

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Originally Posted by wookie70

It is a phrase that I hate and to be honest that looks like it was written by someone in a Comms Team. Nothing wrong with it but it feels plastic and without any real feeling. It is a say all the right things in the right order and make sure you echo everything the CEO has been saying. Nothing that inspires or excites as far as I am concerned and like most he will be judged on how we play on the park and the results those performances bring. Hopefully, he won't find it a challenge for long as a bad 10 game spell might mean he is looking for another challenge.

I think there’s at least recognition that there isn’t a great connect between the team and the fans just now and if they recognise it, they can try to fix it.

Open letters alone won’t do it but I’m pleased it’s on their radar.
22-12-2021, 12:25 PM
Coco Bryce

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Originally Posted by J-C

I just hope all the Maloney nay sayers realise he can't change things overnight, guaranteed they'll be on here tonight saying where's the difference, same old etc.

I'm hoping we will see a much more high pressing game from us tonight.
22-12-2021, 01:12 PM
wookie70

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Originally Posted by bingo70

I think there’s at least recognition that there isn’t a great connect between the team and the fans just now and if they recognise it, they can try to fix it.

Open letters alone won’t do it but I’m pleased it’s on their radar.

It has been mentioned previously too. No harm in it and glad, like you it is recognised, but it is something that is organic and won't be solved by a bland comms piece. Someone else said on the thread or elsewhere that Mowbray set out what he wanted to achieve. I'd like to see that with Maloney and Ron and both to go into a bit more detail than bullet points. I'd want some loose timetable too. If you want fans to buy in then you need to give us something tangible to measure against and look forward to. It feels all a bit like my work where the Corporate Plan and CEO comms reads like everything is rosy in the garden but everyone working there feels like they are pulling up Japanese Knotweed all day and going nowhere
22-12-2021, 01:20 PM
SlickShoes

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Originally Posted by wookie70

It has been mentioned previously too. No harm in it and glad, like you it is recognised, but it is something that is organic and won't be solved by a bland comms piece. Someone else said on the thread or elsewhere that Mowbray set out what he wanted to achieve. I'd like to see that with Maloney and Ron and both to go into a bit more detail than bullet points. I'd want some loose timetable too. If you want fans to buy in then you need to give us something tangible to measure against and look forward to. It feels all a bit like my work where the Corporate Plan and CEO comms reads like everything is rosy in the garden but everyone working there feels like they are pulling up Japanese Knotweed all day and going nowhere

A timetable is a terrible idea, just going on posts in this forum it would 100% be used as another stick to beat the club with when the magical date passes and we haven’t won the cup or qualified for Europe or some other target hasn’t quite been met yet.
22-12-2021, 01:24 PM
wookie70

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Originally Posted by SlickShoes

A timetable is a terrible idea, just going on posts in this forum it would 100% be used as another stick to beat the club with when the magical date passes and we haven’t won the cup or qualified for Europe or some other target hasn’t quite been met yet.

I was thinking more of when building blocks would be put in place. IE Maloney describes what style of play he would like and says he hopes over two transfer windors it could be achieved. Ron says he hopes to become the 3rd biggest club in terms up revenue from advertising in the next 5 years. Not a timetable for on field success but the building blocks that make it more likely
22-12-2021, 02:14 PM
JimBHibees

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Originally Posted by wookie70

He only played three years in the first team. I would have guessed more. He did so in a poor Celtic team but one that was still miles ahead of the other teams in the league bar one. I'm not sure playing with 60k behind you, a referee giving you everything and having the ball 60 or 70 percent of most games all 10 years ago will give him the full story. Saying that he will still have a good idea and will soon get up to speed.

Think he had quite a few big injuries in his career.
22-12-2021, 02:44 PM
silverhibee

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Originally Posted by wookie70

It has been mentioned previously too. No harm in it and glad, like you it is recognised, but it is something that is organic and won't be solved by a bland comms piece. Someone else said on the thread or elsewhere that Mowbray set out what he wanted to achieve. I'd like to see that with Maloney and Ron and both to go into a bit more detail than bullet points. I'd want some loose timetable too. If you want fans to buy in then you need to give us something tangible to measure against and look forward to. It feels all a bit like my work where the Corporate Plan and CEO comms reads like everything is rosy in the garden but everyone working there feels like they are pulling up Japanese Knotweed all day and going nowhere

Mowbray had a big advantage that Maloney won’t, a group of talented young players coming through the system, he added some experienced players to help these young lads develop in to 1st team players and become a good team.

Maloney will more than likely have to buy players to adapt to his style of football, Doig & Boyle will suit his style maybe a few others but some of our players seem to struggle playing a high tempo game, maybe the new fitness guy can help with that, this squad has until the summer to show Maloney if they are worth keeping after that, yes we will get a couple of players in January window but I think SM will have a good budget for the upcoming summer window and we will see a number of changes to the team.
22-12-2021, 02:45 PM
A Hi-Bee

I am pretty sure that our new manager will be trawling through this forum, picking up all the expert analysis and opinions, how could he go wrong if he listens to all of us slavers.
:thumbsup:
22-12-2021, 02:54 PM
Unseen work

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Originally Posted by Since452

Interesting that. Not sure how much that differs to JR but interesting watch. Only a short clip but doesn't seem very vocal.

In fairness to him it’s a short video focussing mainly on the warm up.

The side steps and volleys
Left and right sprints
Shooting drill

These are the drills that are normally taken by the coaches to get them warmed up or whilst he’s preparing something else. They players are having a whilst doing them and it’s not the main point of the session.

There was a video on his very first day which showed him shouting a lot and doing lots of running, appearing very energetic.

I think when it’s the crux of the session it will be him setting the tempo and being vocal in his own way.
22-12-2021, 02:56 PM
bigwheel

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Originally Posted by w pilton hibby

Video inside training

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...aining-session

Strange video clips to share - gives no insight really
Into the new training approach - almost not worth posting.
22-12-2021, 03:01 PM
Unseen work

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Originally Posted by bigwheel

Strange video clips to share - gives no insight really
Into the new training approach - almost not worth posting.

I’m sure it’s to make the fans feel involved without giving too much away to the opposition.

I for one love this sort of content and welcome it being shared, no matter how short it is.
22-12-2021, 03:07 PM
JimBHibees

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Originally Posted by bigwheel

Strange video clips to share - gives no insight really
Into the new training approach - almost not worth posting.

Probably not wanting to give anything away just to give an insight of the sort of activities players will do in training. Good idea and to me good to see.

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