Embarrassing "support" today

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24-08-2019, 05:06 PM
cabbageandribs1875

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Originally Posted by tillguy

They booed the players. That was plainly obvious.

wrong, that was plainly obvious
24-08-2019, 05:06 PM
crash

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Originally Posted by tillguy

They booed the players. That was plainly obvious.

You just don't get it do you, the manager was getting booed, how you couldn't see that if you were at the game is unbelievable.
24-08-2019, 05:07 PM
Northernhibee

Ban them. Take the hit on finance and rebuild it from having a nicer atmosphere.
24-08-2019, 05:09 PM
Gatecrasher

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Originally Posted by Since452

One of the most toxic atmospheres i can remember at Easter Road. Even worse than the dark days of Lennon. The players confidence looks shot with all the booing. Really really sad. Im sure a bit of real support would have got us over the line today. I'm off this for a while before the inevitable abuse us directed my way.

I didn't Booo the decision but real support? Come on over 15,000 turned up, the team were winning and his poor decision making turned the atmosphere and the game.
24-08-2019, 05:09 PM
madhatter

Did most of the embarrassing support see St Johnstone equalising the way it was going? Yes. Did they see their manager make negative, and as eventually proved, rubbish subs? Yes.

Horgan, Mallan and Slivka give us nothing in the midfield. Horgan sometimes is brilliant but then is incapable of passing almost every week. Mallan, if you remove his shooting, is one of the worst midfield players (general play) I've seen at Hibs for a while. He's a Liam Craig who can shoot now and then.

Playing Allan right midfield is a joke.

That last 5 mins gives us no right to have pops at Levein and Hearts. We had 9 players standing in a line and we just hoofed the ball anywhere and stood in the line, zero pressing.

Players got a good reception and played rubbish for 60mins and then decided to play even worse for the remaining 34. Dont think booing has anything to do with it.

Rangers wasnt a blip, we are just a bit rubbish at the moment.
24-08-2019, 05:10 PM
we are hibs

Absolutely great to see another thread full of self righteous fans telling other hibs fans how to support their team.
24-08-2019, 05:11 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by Hiber-nation

Back to the Butcher days...blame the fans.

Except we're not.
We're pointing out it doesn't help.
24-08-2019, 05:11 PM
Hiber-nation

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Originally Posted by Northernhibee

Ban them. Take the hit on finance and rebuild it from having a nicer atmosphere.

Jesus.
24-08-2019, 05:11 PM
07BigD

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

The booing at the Allan substitution was instant and spontaneous and rang out around the stadium.

It wasn’t a tiny minority.

Fans instinctively know what they like or don’t like when they see it and there is no way that all those in the stadium were wrong.

You might not like it, but most of us know we need a new manager.

The rest of you will get there eventually!!

This, I've not seen a reaction like that in a long time.

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24-08-2019, 05:12 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

Absolutely great to see another thread full of self richeous fans telling other hibs fans how to support their team.

You're sounding a bit self richeous yourself there.
24-08-2019, 05:13 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by Northernhibee

Ban them. Take the hit on finance and rebuild it from having a nicer atmosphere.

Hilarity
24-08-2019, 05:13 PM
BoltonHibee

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Originally Posted by Northernhibee

Ban them. Take the hit on finance and rebuild it from having a nicer atmosphere.

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24-08-2019, 05:15 PM
Joe Baker2

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Originally Posted by Since452

One of the most toxic atmospheres i can remember at Easter Road. Even worse than the dark days of Lennon. The players confidence looks shot with all the booing. Really really sad. Im sure a bit of real support would have got us over the line today. I'm off this for a while before the inevitable abuse us directed my way.

Embarrassing post mate. Why don't you just **** off!
24-08-2019, 05:17 PM
Torto7

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Originally Posted by Northernhibee

Ban them. Take the hit on finance and rebuild it from having a nicer atmosphere.

:faf:
24-08-2019, 05:18 PM
SingaporeHibs

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

It's totally pointless behaviour and absolutely not for me.

However I think fans just want to see evidence of a plan and evidence of players caring. On the 2nd point I think fans often mistake lack of ability for lack of effort and I just think we can't play the way we were told we would be playing. We just look devoid of any coherent plan. Allan was garbage today but I think the booing was as much aimed at the bizarre decision to play him where we did as it was at the sub itself.

I go to games to support, not boo my team. I wish it was just a tiny minority but that was a sizeable number today. When that starts then it never, ever ends well for a manager. He's on borrowed time.

You’re right, it is pointless behaviour when trying to win a Football match, completely counterproductive. Footballers thrive on confidence and once that’s shaky or gone even the best players in the world struggle.
Your final point is also correct, once the size of support start feeling like this there is no way back from it. Have seen it enough times. Even if we end up mid table by season end season tickets will plummet and the club finds itself with season ticket sales back where it was pre-cup win. It’s happening already, no need for the south stand on a beautiful day for walk ups to make a late decision to go and watch Football.
The alarm bells should be ringing in the board room.
24-08-2019, 05:20 PM
MikeyS

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Originally Posted by Northernhibee

Ban them. Take the hit on finance and rebuild it from having a nicer atmosphere.

That's enough internet for you today I think. Probably the daftest thing that's been posted tonight!
24-08-2019, 05:21 PM
HappyAsHellas

The booing of the manager is indeed a rare occurrence, and one I don't recall happening for a very long time. People witnessing this should be worried, not calling each other out or talking rubbish about banning them.
24-08-2019, 05:22 PM
CathroMustStay

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Originally Posted by Northernhibee

Ban them. Take the hit on finance and rebuild it from having a nicer atmosphere.

:Ummm:
24-08-2019, 05:23 PM
WhileTheChief..

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Most fans probably didn't like the idea of taking Allan off.
Some fans didn't like it and started booing.
Some fans didn't like it and didn't boo.

Do what you think is right. Personally I think doing the former is counterproductive. And the tone of your final sentence suggests you are taking smug pleasure in it. Which I'm sure isn't your intention. Because that would be dickish.

The !! at he end of the sentence was meant to convey that it was a bit of jest in a tongue in cheek kinda way.

You got that though, right?!!
24-08-2019, 05:24 PM
Weegreenman

Second home game of the season and I’m afraid to say this but we are ducking dug *****. Embarrassing performance. We didn’t deserve anything from that today!
24-08-2019, 05:25 PM
HibbySpurs

Tactically Heckingbottom was poor today (and I’m being kind).

Allan on the right was baffling but nowhere near as baffling as the straight swap for Horgan when every other person could see what was needed was Horgan on for Mallan with Allan coming into the middle.

We looked so poor today and our first goal just about woke me up the game was that bad at that point.

At no point was I comfortable we would win and we were lucky to retake the lead so quickly or I think we probably would have lost.

We were simply hanging on for the last 15 and in injury time simply could not work out how to get someone on the ball to take it into the oppositions half, get to the corner and keep it there, in fact when we did have the ball we were hell bent on going for defence splitting passes which they just mopped up and piled the pressure back on.

Home or away, a goal up in injury time the instructions from the manager must be “get a hold of the ball, deny the opposition possession and run the clock down.” That was evidently not what was going on. Were players poor today? Yes, but for me the blame lies squarely with the manager and we were lucky to escape with a draw.

As a Hibs supporter and after the initial frustration of today wears off I’m happy to give the guy a chance to find a solution and I really hope he does but I’m not convinced at all and the next three games are huge now, lose all three and he’s gone, in fact get less than 4 points he’s probably gone but let’s hope he turns it around and we move forward.
24-08-2019, 05:25 PM
Onion

Will be interesting to hear PH's comments on the booing. He will and should be asked, so lets hear his justification for the substitution. There is no case for the defence.
24-08-2019, 05:25 PM
WhileTheChief..

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Originally Posted by 07BigD

This, I've not seen a reaction like that in a long time.

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Yeah me and my dad were talking about that.

I can’t remember booing like that during a match in years.

The board really has to take notice which is no bad thing.
24-08-2019, 05:25 PM
judas

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

Agree - it stemmed from a player who was garbage all game and offered no defensive cover, during a period we were getting over run

Good player Allan is, hes not bullet proof - changes were designed to take back some grip in midfield

I posted in match thread that the balance is wrong in midfield - I actually think our biggest problem is Vela not being up to speed and totally knackered by 60 odd minutes, allied to the folk alongside him being inept defensively

Anyway - Heckinbottom will likely be gone in a few months....even if he turns things round there will always be a decent section of the support waiting to wail at the first sign of trouble

Allan is a very good player. Our best playmaker and player. But he is treated like the messiah by some. Not just now, but before he arrived back for the 3rd time.

I’m expecting him to tell us to ‘**** off’ after some fans in here have chased him into a ditch.
24-08-2019, 05:26 PM
BoomtownHibees

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Originally Posted by judas

Allan is a very good player. Our best playmaker and player. But he is treated like the messiah by some. Not just now, but before he arrived back for the 3rd time.

I’m expecting him to tell us to ‘**** off’ after some fans in here have chased him into a ditch.

Scott Allan is the messiah 🤷🏻*♂️
24-08-2019, 05:26 PM
Willis1875

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Originally Posted by Onion

Will be interesting to hear PH's comments on the booing. He will and should be asked, so lets hear his justification for the substitution. There is no case for the defence.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/paul-heckingbottom-didnt-know-rule-16812307
24-08-2019, 05:27 PM
emerald green

The well deserved booing came at various stages of an absolutely inept and atrocious performance from Heckingbottom's team. Some of it for his substitutions, some of it for a group of players who are clearly not good enough and cannot do the simple things well. Like defend. 11 goals shipped in the last three games. Yep, let's have a round of applause. :rolleyes:

Twice in the lead today, twice pegged back, and yet another goal lost in time added on. This, against a team who were destroyed 7-0 by Celtic the other week. It was no more than St Johnstone deserved to get an equaliser to be honest.

It was like the bad old days again at ER today. Nine new signings, and this is where we are at? I felt sorry for the new Swedish lad Hibs introduced. What must he be thinking having seen and heard that today?
24-08-2019, 05:28 PM
Joe Baker2

I was sitting in the west stand. Nobody was booing the players, they were booing Heckingbottom. It started when he hooked Scott Allan. What the **** was that about????

For a manager to blame the fans for the result is a new low for this club. The guy makes Pat Fenlon look good.

I'll stick with him for now. But if we lose the derby at home next month he won't see Xmas.
24-08-2019, 05:28 PM
Clarence

And so the Booer war commenced...but it was at the manager’s decision rather than the players.
24-08-2019, 05:30 PM
Callum_62

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Originally Posted by Joe Baker2

I was sitting in the west stand. Nobody was booing the players, they were booing Heckingbottom. It started when he hooked Scott Allan. What the **** was that about????

For a manager to blame the fans for the result is a new low for this club. The guy makes Pat Fenlon look good.

I'll stick with him for now. But if we lose the derby at home next month he won't see Xmas.

What manager blamed the fans for the result?

Not the Hibs manager anyway.

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