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I'm wondering if the 'GTF and support your local team' logic also applies to visitors to our fair city who choose to follow Hibs while they're here? Should they be barred from ER and ostracised on the basis they are from California or Poland or London? Weird logic if you ask me.
Thats why these huge EPL grounds are filled with "fans" filming the opposition "fans" celebrating goals and trying to get selfies with the other teams millionaire playes. Their supports are diluted with fanboy tourists. If Liverpool were playing Napoli in my back garden I'd go shopping with the wife.Quote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
I've seen plenty people taking selfies at Easter Road and filming opposition fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Also, presumably the instances of fan behavior at Premier League games you dislike have come to your attention from watching their games on TV. I'd suggest TV audiences have done more to create a divide between the Premier league and our game than any glamour friendlies in Edinburgh have seeing as they typically occur about once a decade.
It would be interesting to know how many of the people moaning about modern football and the impact of the Premier league will watch their games on TV or down the pub. Or those moaning about the influence of the league on their kids will spend £50 on the new Fifa game every year which is very EPL-centric.
Won’t be going to this - got me worked up slightly about the Edinburgh festival people being able to go - how about going to a real football game at Easter Road!
Not quite the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
One is individuals in a new city visiting the local team, the other is two clubs playing a game in Edinburgh ignoring the local teams.
Add me to the ‘no thanks’ list.
Liverpool did the same recently in Madrid, disgraceful.Quote:
Originally Posted by F'Res Hibbie
The point is though, do you consider the Californian Hibs fan as less of a true fan than a local who's lived here all his life? The Californian might have a season ticket, be working at Edinburgh Uni, and 'get the club' in every conceivable way, the boy from Lochend might just go out of habit and forgot why he even started following Hibs in the first place. Im not willing to make a judgement on that, or whether a Malaysian Man U fan is less of a 'real fan' than a Mancunian, its going into uncomfortable territory if you ask me. Its a global world.Quote:
Originally Posted by F'Res Hibbie
Just enjoy what you're watching and avoid being judgemental I reckon.
Murrayfield is a venue that hosts entertainment, whether that be sport, music or anything else. I really don’t see why folk are so concerned about this. Liverpool are a global brand and this game gives their Scottish fans a much easier chance of seeing them live than they would normally have.
Football is a great game that brings people together.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
I love being able to blether with Liverpool fans, Barcelona fans, whoever and whatever, and it doesn't matter what their uberfan credentials are.
It's funny how animated folk get about this.
Football supporting habits have changed and evolved. My nephew loves Hibs. He also loves Messi and Barcelona, he loves being Arsenal when he's playing FIFA and likes Dunfemline because that's his grandad's team. We should be grateful for his Hibs part (the strongest by far btw) instead of pushing him away because he might have other interests in other teams, for whatever reason. I'm happy enough to let a 9 year old grow his love of football.
Exactly. If people are that upset I presume they are not watching the EPL on Sky at the home or at the pub or the Champions League?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Boatman
I love football. Hibs are the only team I support (I'm not even that fussed about Scotland these days) but I've been watch games in Barcelona, Madrid, Lisbon, Paris, Milan, Manchester and others over the last few years and loved every moment.
How many times are the European Champions playing in your back yard when you actually have a chance at getting a ticket!
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Originally Posted by matty_f
I’m a bit concerned about this. Does the SFA have a say in this? Indeed UEFA. Mega clubs playing in any city they choose is NOT good for football in general and most certainly it’s not in Hibs or Hearts interest nor in Scottish footballs interests. Scottish football should say fine both Napoli and the Pool can play in Edinburgh but vs Hibs or Hearts or both.
Scottish football? It's being played at a rugby stadium and will be good for the local economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by chippy
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Oh meant to say .... stick your global brands where the sun does not shine. This is football imperialism
Totally agree quite looking forward to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Boatman
Its a one off friendly for logistical reasons in the summer at a rugby ground. Not exactly the end of the worldQuote:
Originally Posted by chippy
So you’d be pleased if the SRU continued to host non Scottish football tourneys in Edinburgh or Glasgow for that matter. The local economy angle is a deflection. The game needs protected and developed here not replacedQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
Oh meant to say .... stick your global brands where the sun does not shine. This is football imperialism
Seriously?😂Quote:
Originally Posted by chippy
Did Hibs not play Wigan in Portugal or Spain a couple of years ago? Were you worried about their local teams on that occasion?Quote:
Originally Posted by chippy
It will make a good amount of money for the city too.
Fan boys are going to watch Liverpool etc regardless of playing here because kids watch on tv now. My laddie is more interested in a Man City and I’m fed up convincing him about Hibs so his wee brother comes now, saying that at least it’s not Celtic or rangers as it used to be when I was growing up. I’m hoping if he eventually likes football as much as me then he starts wanting to go to more live games with his brother and me (as well as my Hibs mad 3 year old daughter)
On the other hand my brother loves Liverpool and has done since they where ***** he grew up in the 90s so if he wants to bask in their glory and take his son to see them of that I’ve no problem, he attends Easter road all the time too.
Interesting choice of words and I can see where you're coming from.Quote:
Originally Posted by chippy
Call me old fashioned but I cling onto the geographical aspect when it comes to supporting sports teams. Back in days when the world was "smaller", people went to watch their local teams and therefore their money was spent locally, ensuring sporting success was usually relative to population and spread fairly evenly.
It's definitely all changed but not for the better. Money and the cutthroat nature of the sport means these "global brands" are competing for income from people everywhere who have access to games and products on all sorts of media. People have always had a favourite English team but back in the day you would get looked at funny if you said they were your main one. Nowadays it's common for people to get far more worked up about their English team than their Scottish one they probably grudgingly support or only do so because they hate Catholics/the Queen etc....
I often get counter arguments from Hearts fans from Dunbar or those from Forfar who support Dundee but it isn't the same. Unlike all the foreign Manchester United fans, they haven't tipped the balance in any way and can hardly be accused of glory hunting. Sure, there might be similarities in the logic but where is the glory in supporting Dundee or Hearts? Sorry, but any Liverpool fan who gets worked up about Liverpool and has nothing to do with Liverpool....it's fake in my eyes. The normalisation of the idea that "it's my right to support who I like" is leading to a growing gulf between the haves and have-nots of this game and it will only get worse.
If money from the game in its entirety was gathered and distributed equally I wouldn't be so concerned. It would ensure that the game survives beyond the big beasts, keep things more interesting and give potential fans of smaller clubs a bit of hope.
Yes. Mind you neither club has a great record against Hibs....., running scaredQuote:
Originally Posted by Silent Boatman
Don't think a friendly will make any difference with wall to wall TV coverage of the EPL in Scotland.
Ski hats in the 80s always aligned with 3 or 4 different English clubs so the fascination has always been there. They were there in England but to to a lesser extent than Scotland as I recall and they were only concerned with the OF bigotry.
I was surrounded by English football as a kid growing up and my only source of Scottish football was the vidiprinter at 4:45..... "Hibs 8 (eight) Kilmarnock 1" sent the house wild...and my old man's Sunday Mail which I had to wait to read after him.
Whilst I loved MOTD and English football in general I never did have an English team. If other people do ive no problem with that, but a friendly will not steal ours or any other teams support for that matter, Sky might.
Liverpool & Napoli coming to Edinburgh to play what is basically an exhibition match. Bears little relation to real football; it's just a bit of glamour and the kids will love it. Scottish football will be unaffected. I just can't see what's not to like?Quote:
Originally Posted by chippy
If you don't want to go then don't, seems simple enough.
Like it or not the EPL has world domination as one of its main aims, and it is probably already there. That is why the likes of Bournemouth could outbid celtic and rangers for a player and pay them more. People from the far East, middle East, USA, south America and Scotland all paying money to Sky who in turn pay lots of money to EPL. The next iteration of this has begun with EPL clubs playing all over the world, now coming to Scotland. It's not how I want it to be but it won't ever change back.
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Agree with everything but the last paragraph. Nothing wrong with playing Barca but the game should have been at Easter Road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antifa Hibs
I’m looking forward to this game, chance to see some top players playing close to home.
Don’t get why folk are getting so worked up about it. Would there be the same reaction if it was city or united playing at murrayfield, I’d say not.