Can't stand Kyrgios. Was gutted he won't today. I'll be backing Rafa next round.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
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Can't stand Kyrgios. Was gutted he won't today. I'll be backing Rafa next round.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Would be the case that most folk will be judging by crowd response today after Nadal’s match. Kyrgios’ support will also be affected by his pending court appearance for alleged domestic abuse. Can’t see many folk backing him against that backdrop. When you have the likes of Pat Cash and McEnroe saying he is a bad egg, it can’t be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by J.S
Norrie v Nadal would be the final a lot of people will want. Novax v Kyrgios the tabloid headline writers dream.
Living legend. Quite incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Hope he's fit enough for the semi-final.
Why wouldn't the crowd favour Nadal? Probably the most exciting player in the history of the game. His swashbuckling style and (more so in his younger days) dashing looks tick all the boxes. Bottom line, he's a phenomenal sportsman.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
He's had a long and battle-scarred career and had an operation shortly before Wimbledon. No surprise he's starting to feel it at his age.
The only top player who you could accuse of being 'at it' in that respect is Novax. Feigned injury regularly as a young player and remains notorious for calling the trainer in times of adversity. It used to do Andy Murray's head in. Lengthy trip to the toilets at two sets down yesterday only to re-emerge a completely new player.
Think Kyrgios might command some support. He's been sensational at this tournament. However the vast majority will be cheering on Rafa.Quote:
Originally Posted by LewysGot2
Part of me would like to see Kyrgios beat Novax in the final. He's bern outspoken in his criticism of Nivax down the years:
https://www.eurosport.com/tennis/australian-open/2021/australian-open-2021-i-just-cant-stand-him-the-nick-kyrgios-and-novak-djokovic-beef-explained_sto8114112/story.shtml
Rafa has done the same as Novak convenient injury breaks. Fair enough the crowd favouring Rafa but to that level was ridiculous imo. Not altogether sure his power was not enhanced let's say. His ridiculous routine before serving is bizarre some OCD issues I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
It's not ridiculous to him and that should be enough to be okay no? It's hardly off putting to the other rplayer and takes seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Are you saying he cheated? How do you mean his power was enhanced?
And if he is OCD, that's okay too.Quote:
Originally Posted by J.S
Yes that's what I meantQuote:
Originally Posted by LewysGot2
Djokovic and Nadal both practice the dark arts, they are like Chiellini or Ramos, they definitely use ****housery to turn games in their favour imo
Wimbledon is great isn't it? We're experts for two weeks a year, getting all self-righteous about the players' off-court behaviour and making venomous remarks about them.
It must be the greatest soap opera in sport. BBC Sport have got it now till 2027 and it's just as well because they've not much else in terms of live action.
I think that's likely to still be the case for some, but probably more so back in the day when Wimbledon was pretty much the only live tennis we had access to. When I was a kid I had only a vague idea that the other Slams even existed. You could also apply it to various other sports which the BBC afforded their moment in the sun once the football season had finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
However, these days you can access pretty much any tennis, golf, cricket etc event you want to watch and I started following tennis a lot more seriously once Andy Murray started to make his presence felt. I probably follow it more closely than football these days (better all-round game IMHO) so my remarks about the likes of Novax are based on more than just what I see of him at Wimbledon.
Alfie Hewett beats friend and doubles partner Gordon Reid in three sets to reach the men's wheelchair singles semi finals.
The pair are playing together in the men's wheelchair doubles event where they are attempting to win an incredible 11th Grand Slam title in a row.
It doesn't look very promising for Nadal being able to play tomorrow based on the scenes of him practicing today and his general demeanour walking around the grounds.
Ons Jabeur's hopes of becoming the first African women's singles Grand Slam champion are alive after beating Tatjana Maria in three sets.
Yes I think he probably has over his career. Tennis is one of the poorest sports for testing of top stars. Fair enough about his OCD.Quote:
Originally Posted by J.S
Elena Rybakina has beaten Simona Halep in straight sets so it will be Jabeur v Rybakina in the Wimbledon ladies' final on Saturday.
I think it's slightly ironic, given Wimbledon's ban on Russian players in this year's tournament, that a Russian born player has ended up reaching the final!
I’d argue Jim that it’s less fair to accuse someone of being a drugs cheat with no real grounds than to get annoyed by him pulling at his clothes!Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Yes, think he'll give it until tomorrow morning but suspect he may reluctantly concede he can't continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Rafa withdraws, shame
Absolutely gutted for him after he was going for the calendar year Grand Slam.
So Kyrgios v Djokovic/Norrie in the final now.
Really scunnered by that news too. The way he was playing a historic calendar slam did not look beyond him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Also more or less hands the title to Novax I fear.
True. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by WeeRussell
I've just read an interesting stat that Nadal is only the third player in history (male or female) to pull out of a Grand Slam singles semi final.
The other two were Richard Krajicek in the 1992 Australian Open v Jim Courier and Chris Evert in the 1988 US Open v Steffi Graf.
Courier and Graf both went on to win the final in both events so that's a good omen for Kyrgios!
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Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Norrie breaks in the first game!
Djokovic breaks back in the second game!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Norrie breaks again - leads 3-2 first set.
Norrie breaks for a third time this set!
Serving for it at 5-2.
First set Norrie 6-2.
Outstanding!
Time for a 10 minute long toilet break for Novax I imagine.
The game isn't going to continue like this. Djokovic can't play any worse can he?
Second set Djokovic 6-3.
Djokovic will win this in 4 sets.
Can't disagree and he's miles away from his usual standard. This is as poor a game as you'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Congratulations to Alfie Hewitt for reaching the men's wheelchair singles final.
He was 6-2 5-1 down to Gustavo Fernandez but came back to win in 3 sets.
Also great to see the match taking place on Court One.
Third set Djokovic - too easy.
All over now.
Djokovic breaks in the first game of the fourth set.
Djokovic serving for the match.
Game, set and match Djokovic.
Djokovic v Kyrgios in the final.
I thought Novac was a preening, arrogant prick today. Eyeballing individuals in the crowd and mocking them. Idiot.
That would be an apt description of him at all times.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Well done Norrie. Terrific championship.
Brilliant match on BBC2 just now, delighted to see this being shown on mainstream TV and not just the red button.
Gordon Reid and Alfie Hewett serving for the first set in the semi finals of the men's wheelchair doubles.
Reid and Hewett win the first set 6-3.
On their way to another Grand Slam final.
Reid and Hewett broken - 2-0 down in the second set.
The strength these guys have in their upper bodies is awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Second set's been a disaster - 5-1 down.
Yeah I used to play it many years ago (although nowhere near Wimbledon standard!) and it probably doesn't look very easy to play and I can assure you it's even harder than it looks! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
We're into a decider, Reid and Hewett lose the second set.
Reid and Hewett broken at the start of the final set.
Their attempt to win an 11th Grand Slam title in a row is now in serious danger.
Reid and Hewett break straight back!
Never discount Gordon Reid and Alfie Hewett in a men's doubles Grand Slam!
They break in the final set to lead 4-2!
Reid and Hewett broken when serving for the match.
5-4 Reid and Hewett.
Final set championship tiebreak to decide the match.
Outstanding - Reid and Hewett win 6-3 1-6 7-6!
Great match and a brilliant advert for disability sport.
Hope they can go on and lift the title tomorrow for their 11th Grand Slam in a row!
Great stuff. Hope Hewett can do the double.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Interesting to hear of your experience of wheelchair tennis. It's not just the strength and stamina involved which impresses me but the skill those playing at the top level possess too.
The top players are full time professional athletes and training just as much as their able bodied counterparts.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
I'm absolutely delighted to see the match tonight on BBC2 and also on Court 1.
Alfie Hewett voiced his frustrations yesterday that his singles match v Gordon Reid had only been on Court 14 and I think he had a point, especially when the invitational matches, which are effectively just exhibition events, were on the larger courts 2 and 3.
Seeing tonight's match live on Court 1 and live on BBC2 was a huge step forward for disability sport - these players deserve the exposure.
Sadly Reid and Hewett got hammered in today's men's wheelchair doubles final.
Elena Rybakina beats Ons Jabeur in three sets to win the ladies' final.
Really enjoyed the ladies final, which can often be a bit flat if it's won in two sets. Virtually no celebration from Rybakina but she spoke very well afterwards, as did Jabeur.
Men's doubles final goes to a fifth set.
Just watched the final, really enjoyed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
And what are the odds Rybakina will get ko'd early in the US Open. Women's tennis really needs someone to make their mark. Every time someone looks like being the next heir to Serena's throne they disappear just as quick.
I think the same thing will happen in the men's game once Djokovic and Nadal have retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
Women's tennis is certainly a lot more unpredictable in recent years - since 2000 there have been 33 different Grand Slam champions on the women's side, whereas with the men there have been just 20, and just 11 since Roger Federer won his first Wimbledon title in 2003.
Matthew Ebden and Max Purcell beat Nikola Mektic and Mate Pavic in 5 sets to win the men's doubles title.
Yeah I hope the men's doesn't turn out like the women's and I don't think it will. Sinner looks like the next big thing as far as I'm concerned and hopefully Alcaraz will develop into a major winner in the next couple of years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
A slight irony there with all the controversy about banning Russian playersQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
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Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
Don’t think Iga Swiatek will disappear.
She will be favourite to win US Open on the hardcourt and she has won 2 French Opens on clay already
I would expect her to practise more on the grass next year when ranking points are reintroduced
She will probably dominate for quite a few years
Yes the irony wasn't lost on me at all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancs Harp
I didn't really agree with Wimbledon's decision to ban Russian (and Belarusian) players from this year's tournament as one of the reasons given to justify the ban was that a Russian winner would have given the Russians a propaganda victory which Wimbledon wanted to avoid and yet we've ended up with just that with a Russian born player winning Wimbledon and Russia claiming it as their own victory.
Another reason to justify it was that Russian and Belarusian players hadn't condemned Russia's actions in Ukraine and therefore they were seen as being complicit and yet Rybakina said she "didn't understand the question" and "my English is not very good" when asked if she condemns the war in Ukraine.
And thanks to the ban and the subsequent decision of the ATP to strip Wimbledon of ranking points as a punishment, Nick Kyrgios should be ranked around 15th in the world regardless of the score tomorrow and therefore be seeded for the US Open but instead will be ranked 40th and therefore may be unseeded. Novak Djokovic will also drop from 3rd to 7th in the world even if he wins tomorrow.
For players further down the rankings who did relatively well at Wimbledon, such as Liam Broady, Heather Watson and Tatjana Maria, the consequences are even more severe. Based on how they all did at Wimbledon they should be straight into the US Open main draw but now they're all likely to need to go through qualifying.
As Liam Broady said I am failing to see how this is punishing Wimbledon - it just seems to be the players who are bearing the brunt of this decision which I think is unfair.
Yep, Wimbledon (or whoever put pressure on them to apply this ban) have had a howler here and hammered a host of players very unfairly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
6-4 to Kyrgios first set.
Second set to Djokovic 6-3.
Kyrgios should have won that last game.
Third set Djokovic 6-4.
Kyrgios has lost the plot. He has been playing well but now he has lost his concentration
Hard to see anything other than a Novax win now.
He's just remained fully focused at all times.
Utter nonsense Djokovic can disappear for 10 mins at end of third set. Andrew Castle got to be better than him absolute torturous chat
My wife has said to me that she would love to go to Wimbledon. Kyrgios hit one into the net and she shout oh ya ****er! I've explained that I don't think we can ever go
I like Kyrgios, he's honest and says what other players won't. Heart on the sleeve and no false diplomacy.
He needs to take some responsibility for himself though. Everything isn't down to his box, the umpire, the ball boys and girls etc. He lost the one for himself as much as Djokovic won it.
Kyrgios has lost it mentally. And soon to be literally
Novax didn't even need to bring any real gamesmanship to the table today
Djokovic wins in 4 sets to win his 7th Wimbledon title and 21st Grand Slam title.
He's a dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Delighted he lost and I can't stand djokovic either.
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I like him - not sure his antics help him, but could be one of the most naturally gifted players we’ve ever seen …Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy
Wow.
Asked if he wants more grand slam finals he says he's too tired? He didn't even have to play the semi final...
There's no way the top players of this generation would have said that even in jest ...
Yas Novak , well deserved and here's to many more majors
Gaun yersel son !!
Course they would. Was just a wee light-hearted comment which most of the arena appreciated and laughed at.Quote:
Originally Posted by LewysGot2
His post-match interview was really good.
Absolutely. Imagine if he had the application and desire that someone like Murray did. He’s a hell of talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
Tennis isn’t his favourite sport and that’s okay. He definitely has the talent to do great things though.
Come on! It was quite clearly a joke. Give the guy a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by LewysGot2
Great match. Novak won when it came to the business end.
He's a master of spin and swerve and also masking the direction of his forehand.
I can't stand the guy, but he's phenomenal. His serve also gets nowhere near the amount of praise it deserves.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Brilliant tribute to Sue Barker.
Wimbledon won't be the same without her.
In the end Djokovic just about deserved to win it, but Kyrgios can only really have himself to blame. He looked dominant in the 1st set and part of the secind, but he needs to spend less time having 'discussions' with the umpire and shouting and swearing, because he's a really gifted tennis player, not just another guy with a big serve.
Well deserved win for Novak, a class above on the tennis court.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Nick was gracious in defeat and I think that he was delighted and surprised to get so far in the tournament
Two horrible players in the final so gave it a miss.
Rafa's injury made the men's singles such an anti-climax and unfortunately handed Novax the title.
Agree, she is the ultimate professional and will be sorely missed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Hopefully the BBC make a better job of replacing her on their Wimbledon coverage than they did at replacing her on Question of Sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
Nick Kyrgios: Wimbledon fan to take legal action against Australian - BBC Sport
A fan who Nick Kyrgios said was "drunk out of her mind" during the Wimbledon final is taking legal action against the Australian tennis player.
Kyrgios, who lost the final to Novak Djokovic in July, said the woman looked "like she has had about 700 drinks" as he complained to the umpire about her.
Anna Palus has now instructed solicitors to bring defamation proceedings against Kyrgios.
She accuses Kyrgios of a "reckless and entirely baseless allegation".
"Not only did this cause considerable harm on the day, resulting in my temporary removal from the arena, but Mr Kyrgios' false allegation was broadcast to and read by millions around the world, causing me and my family very substantial damage and distress,"
She says she's not litigious.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
She's a lawyer by profession!
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Originally Posted by heretoday
i can't even remember if her photo was in the media in the following few days after the game, is she just looking for publicity, she's just bringing all this out in the open again when everyone and their dug won't even recall what happened
Incredible story. Attention seeking weird behaviour imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Her and him should just pick up the phone and become mates. They're both weirdos.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
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