True.. what’s wrong with the usual moaning about it being the international break and folk trying to outdo each other about how much they don’t care about their own country?
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Whatever way you dress it up, Hibs have let their best player go out on loan at a critical period of the season - and now there's talk that he won't be back. The fans are quite right to moan.
Scott Allan is a player that you fit in the team, the type of player you let train when he wants, like Latapy.
Some are even saying he's now not our best player - madness.
I don’t believe you are naive, so I can only think that you are at it.
We all know how football operates. Scott is entitled to put a positive spin on things and the club is right not to do anything to undermine that, but we have sent our most creative player out on loan while there is still much to fight for this season.
It doesn’t look promising.
You could look at it and think Jack Ross has potentially put himself under pressure here if we don't see 3rd place out.
Positives
Away Record
Beat Aberdeen once
Ok record against teams we should beat
Found a left back and stuck with him
Newell is a player
Negatives
Let Scott Allan go on loan at the most critical time of the season
Scottish Cup Semi Final loss v Hearts - biggest game of the season
League Cup Semi Final loss to St Johnstone
Home Record / consistency / poor results at home
Record v other big clubs
Balance of the squad
dunno if mentioned already, but whats also strange that Neil McCann also had him at Dundee but Allan wasnt always in his first eleven?
Narrative will be that we aren't that convincing, I mean we could finish 3rd with only having beaten Aberdeen once with no Hearts in the league. And no Hearts in the league is important with our record in Derbies and points dropped.
It's a funny one, statistical fans will say we have finished 3rd on merit while more pragmatic fans will look at how we play and factor in Aberdeen have been poor along with the Semi Finals.
Doesn't Kyle Magennis need game time and time to prove himself more than Scott Allan?
Saved me responding 👍
There’s no need to “dress” anything up, unless you don’t trust what has come from the above parties.
Part of his recovery (hopefully) back to the top level is spending some time on loan to get playing again.
I also think he’s our best player, when fit. I have absolutely no problem with him spending a few weeks on loan if that’s what the manager and Scott think is the best way to aid his return.
If it turns out he struggles to get back to the top of his game because of everything him and his body has been through then I guess folk can come back and tell us they were right and he was never wanted by Jack Ross 👍
In the meantime, we can look forward to him getting stronger and being ready to go for a big next season.
My (intended) last post on this subject.
If folk choose to believe Jack Ross is always 100% honest in what he says then fair enough. I don’t. He’s not that unusual in that respect, every manager I can think of is economical with the truth if it suits them.
He didn’t want to let Scott go on loan according to him. He didn’t want to let Mallan go on loan according to him. He didn’t want to lose Oli Shaw permanently according to him. Yet where are these players now ? The final decision is Ross’, but as I’ve said before he likes to keep players on side.
For posters like me who have concerns that Ross doesn’t see Scott Allan as a big part of his future plans that could have been easily addressed. All he needed to say was he didn’t feel Scott was ready to contribute this season, but he was still a big part of his plans and would welcome him back in the summer.
Nah I think the narrative will be that no team outside the OF has won more points than Hibs since Ross took over. Built a team with a solid defensive record this year and getting the best out of a squad that is improving every window.
How many times did Aberdeen or Motherwell beat Hibs last season? It’s irrelevant. The league table doesn’t lie.
Last season, Jack Ross was in charge for about 6 games and finished 7th? Hearts beat us 3-1 at home and beat us in a Semi Final that's the narrative.
We are ordinary.
I do think Jack Ross will be away at the first sign of a club like Preston wanting him.
Scott Allan is the main player at the club.
You can only beat what is in front of you.
Why would you want to run with such a negative narrative? Give the club some respect.
We hopefully finish 3rd even with the following issues
- a national pandemic. We got slaughtered in the media at the start of the season for our handling. Aberdeen sold a lot of important players in January, perhaps their downturn is related to not dealing with things as well as we did earlier.
- Scotty being missing for the season.
- bids for Nisbet and Ryan
- gutting losses in the cup
- our number 1 announcing his departure at the end of the season
- Leeann moving on
It’s pretty amazing, consider how many issues there have also been at Rangers/Celtic/Aberdeen related to Covid. We’ve quietly got along with our business. Perhaps the inconsistency we’ve seen at times is due to the impact of the current situation. I know my work has been inconsistent in the last 12 months.
Why you would want to sit in misery and say “we only got third because Aberdeen were rubbish”. It is ridiculous. We’ve potentially got some amazing European football to look forward to next year because we may achieve a league position we rarely do.
We’ve made some great signings such as McGinn, Cadden and Irvine. The squad likely doesn’t need too much work so we might only see some real quality come in in the summer.
I salute the club, Jack, and Ron for everything that has been achieved this year. It’s been an awful year but imagine in 6 months reliving days like Brondby away.
Let’s stop being miserable and get excited!
GGTTH
P.S. I managed to not even mention the comedy show across the city.
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Wow - you really don’t like our manager do you?
Scott Allan is my favourite player at Hibs, and for me the most gifted midfielder since Latapy. But how is he possibly the “main player” right now having played about 20 minutes in the last 10 months?
If he gets back match fit then he’s every chance of being the main man again. Hopefully this loan spell helps that.
You haven’t. I’m asking if that’s the case given you’ve called his team (who are going to have their best league campaign in many years) ordinary, highlighted two games against hearts from last season, and made an assumption that he’s the sort of person who is ready to bolt at the first opportunity.
It sounds like you’re not a fan of his. Apologies if that’s not the case.
This isn't being negative... but, we still need to finish it off and finish 3rd.
I've seen threads closed for far less. Descended into nonsense.
How the **** did a thread about Allan going on loan turn into a squabble regarding Ross, how good we are/are not and why we are 3rd jeez his forum is nuts at times.