Whatever Happy Clapper you are top man!!!Quote:
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Whatever Happy Clapper you are top man!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
The booing was merited and deserved - the players lacked desire and passion. Don't give 100% you'll receive what you deserve and the support were/are well within their rights to boo. The football is eye bleeding this season. It's like a Fenlon era again.
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I didn’t go to the game. After 20 odd years of being a season ticket holder I had enough. I don’t identify with this team of *****y English lower league players. I find them arrogant. I think the manager is the same. Fair play to those who go and vented their frustrations. They are more patient than me. They have the absolute right to boo. It’s the happy clappers that tolerate crap like butcher and Duffy and cause us to suffer
Granades? Coward? Are you for real?Quote:
Originally Posted by BouncerRoss
Think you need to get down off your high horse pal. Absolutely nothing to do with you what a poster choses to do. My point was clearly made. Why do i need to stand and argue it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Funny how people are aggressively debating the boos...
Well paid footballers get protected because fans will have their back (because they are supporters). Whether rightly or wrongly the very same fans on here and elsewhere are willing to dish it out to fellow fans when they find a fellow fans opinion a lot of drivel. Same is true the other way.
Not taking sides, just find it hilarious that fans asking players and management for an apology after Rangers result were told to grow up and not expect everything to go their way in life, same fans seemingly continually protect grown men who are invariably not doing their jobs...I just don’t see where the tipping point is. We don’t have control on anything at the club so do we boo or do we stop turning up? We need some way of showing our displeasure. Do we wait for another relegation? Our standard of football is appalling, no way around that. It stinks.
It is a sport but at the core of it, it is still a job. Performances this season show players aren’t, willingly or otherwise, doing their jobs. Why should referees have to handle boos but football players paid much more shouldn’t?
All I hear this season is excuses. Hated Lennon’s management at times but I expect we’re mentally weak and walk overs now, it shows on the park.
Fans need to be mentally stronger so that players don’t get anxious, ok then...
Think we should stop the infighting and just agree we are just a bit garbage at the moment. Unite on that common ground.
Its nothing like Butcher or Duffy.Quote:
Originally Posted by sixtwo
Is that you Paul? Aye thats right create a thread to criticise the support and then say your going off it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Hear hear!Quote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
In your opinion darling.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
Totally agree that Allan isn't and shouldn't be irreplaceable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
But the bit in bold kind of brings home where a lot of the frustration comes from.
We were getting over run because the formation was appalling and had no functioning midfield.
While I want all our players to offer defensive options when we need it I feel we need to set up in a way that makes it less criticial that the attacking players defend.
It's unfortunately massively critical because we're opening the game with 5 attacking players so we were always going to be under the cosh.
Can't quite believe comparisons with previous managers at present, really think a little perspective is needed.
Firstly there is no doubt that we are going through a tough spell and normally that's where the support is so important, the twelve man!
So lets look at the facts. The manager has lost 20 percent, won 50 percent and drawn 30 percent of games played which is at petty good record.
Last season he was seen as being fairly astute in a number of games and at the start of the season there was no negatively on here and people were fairly optimistic.
Start judging the players brought in and the team around christmas and give the players support, it may just make a difference and help them settle in.
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Originally Posted by Since452
It's called trolling, make a statement or start a thread and sit back to watch the carnage unfold, if you had a point, then stay around and argue that point, otherwise you're just trolling.
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Originally Posted by Since452
lol, jeezo your going wayyyyyyyy back eh, or do you prefer just to stick with lennon as per
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Took some time to reflect on this post “embarrassing “support” today” and give myself a cool head after the anger I left Easter Road with yesterday.
I don’t think the support were embarrassing at all. I agree most times that a huge section of fans are sheep at times and will echo what they’re hearing next to them. However, the boos imo were warranted- whether they were booing at the subs or booing at that lack of passion and drive on the park. Fans spend a hell of a lot of money at Easter Road. But it’s not just the money. It’s the lifetime hours and commitment you put in to it. That for me equals your right to express yourself in any non violent/aggressive way you choose how. PH has come out and said it’s mentally affecting the players and Stevenson said similar previously, I’m all for backing the team. In return I want passion and commitment and energy on the pitch and that’s not their right now.
The problem we have, again just imo, is that we already had an ageing defence and nobody supporting them. With a bare squad. We have brought players in but I realistically don’t see them all being here playing regularly in the next 3-4 years and that’s an issue. That also goes with PH, his tactics have been very questionable and his interviews constantly backtracking what he originally said. I don’t want to see RG being gun-hoe and replacing manager after manager, but I also don’t see PH being the man to take us forward and that’s where we should be looking to go forward. Not accepting mid table finishes. I want Europe and we should have the facilities and budget to push for Europe.
Unfortunately the atmosphere is as stale and hard as my steak pie I got yesterday
So was it the booing that made us draw or was it the sub?Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
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Originally Posted by 1875-Hibernia
treat yourself to a greggs in future, your wallet and stomach will appreciate it :aok: the more folk that stop buying the crap at ER the better chance something will be done about it
You have my full backing for this. £10 for three waters and a pie is scandalous. Cheek not to give me plastic water bottle, in case of recklessness. I could’ve seriously hurt someone with the brick hard pie!Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Heckingbottom got his team selection and set up wrong yesterday...and he reaped the approbation of the crowd as a result. He seems prone to changing his team every week rather than play a settled one and it is hurting us.
He should concentrate players in their natural positions.
Flo up front with big Doige demands Allan in CM not out right.
Dont juggle your keepers. Rocky is the better of the two but his distribution is poorer but by swapping them each week the back 4 havent a clue where to expect the ball.
Everyone can see Mallan is struggling but one week hes not stripped and the next it doesnt matter how out of his depth he gets to plays the whole game.
Slivka brings more to the midfield when he backs up Allan.
One week you discover banging long diagonals to Middleton works, the next week you have him trying to be defensive getting in Stevensons road.
Whittaker, for all his detractors, is offering more defensively than any of our other wing backs on either side. He needs to be playing not on the bench.
Neither SDG or Lewey are fully fit and a yard off the pace. Until they are up to speed play the fit players.
Lets hope the Big Neep can inject some dynamism and the team kicks on but the manager needs to address his uncertainty and timidness as its being transmitted to the players and affecting performances.
A win would have just papered over the cracks yesterday mate...we were abysmal for 3 quarters of that match...imo we didn't even deserve a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day In Time
We certainly did not deserve to win the match. I've been in the give Hecky more time camp till now but I'm starting to run out of support for him as the weeks go by...that's 3 weeks running where weve been pretty abject
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I suppose those who felt the need to boo were getting their message across to Hecky (and the board) rather than thinking it would do our players any good. Can’t imagine any team would play better getting pelters from the stands so I just hope this doesn’t become a trend.
[QUOTE=Borderhibbie76;5904799]A win would have just papered over the cracks yesterday mate...we were abysmal for 3 quarters of that match...imo we didn't even deserve a point.
We certainly did not deserve to win the match. I've been in the give Hecky more time camp till now but I'm starting to run out of support for him as
The majority of us have been saying something is wrong either with personnel we have or our tactics. We have been prepared to watch and wait and 4 games in we are vindicated. However things could still turn around. We should not boo during a match as i believe it undermines our team. Especially booing substitutions is not on. That assumes that ee know more about game management and player conditions than staff. We do not. Please write to the club to make your views clear. Booing a team or even part of it is wrong when we are there to give them our support.
I reckon we’ll see a pretty decent travelling support on Saturday. Often in times of struggles we see a rallying of the fans to help dig us out. Once folk start to cool down after yesterday’s late capitulation the attention will shift to Motherwell and enthusiasm and anticipation starts to rise and dare I say it, even look forward to the short trip to North Lanarkshire. I think we’ll see between 2 & 2,500 heading through.
How else would you describe this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
I like the sentiment but yesterday was not a late capitulation, it was just capitulation. Fans calming down doesn’t make the players play better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carheenlea
Fans calming down and Hecky’s comments still annoy me. Reason being, imagine the reaction Real Madrid and Barcelona would get if they played shocking football every week? Fans would boo, fans would be outraged. Well beyond what happened at ER. I’m sure fans were told to calm down during Fenlon, Butcher, Calderwood, etc.
I hope whoever does travel next week gets their money’s worth because it’s not looking great. Next 3 games will see Hecky turn it round or him losing his job. We are losing home attendances rapidly so I doubt away support will strengthen. Hecky’s losing the fans.
The only individual indulging in "embarrassing" behaviour is Heckingbottom himself with his cryptic, non-committal comments including such pearls as: "we're a work in progress and will be for a while"...to "anxiety from the stands" or "there'll be a lot of draws" (I bet the Board love him for that one) and the one that takes the cake, "players are nervous at playing at a busy Easter Road".
Not one of his signings has improved the team. I thought Jackson got pass marks for his goal yesterday, and the blocks he got in, but he's a stopper, nothing more and cuter forwards in this league will make a mess of him and that hesitant defence that ships goals for free.
We've been in this movie before, and Leanne risks undoing all the sterling work she's done in the last 5 years if this schism between the fans and the club gets any bigger. Time for her to chap Commissioner Gordon's door I think, and get this guy on his bike, because he doesn't want to be here and he's not doing himself or us any favours by hanging about either.
How else would you describe this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
All these posts having a go at the fans that booed a ***** performance - booing that only started at the baffling Allan substitution....
Yet none of these posters are asking why the previous 60 minutes - a whole hour of the game, where the fans had been right behind the team - were so abject and miserable.
Fans boo=their fault the team are ****
Fans cheer-the team are ****.... Hey ho nobody to blame!
Brutal patter that.
Can't have it both ways.
I keep reading about all the booing yesterday. Can anyone confirm whether anyone took it a step too far and hissed as well?
I think someone shouted 'he's behind you'. Heckingbottom said 'oh no he isn't'. The ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy
Yeah heat of the moment from me and apologies to anyone I was snippy with. It would have papered over the cracks but we’d be sitting here tonight content with the three points. We’ll play much better and lose I’d wager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Borderhibbie76
Three weeks is nothing though. I guess I just want Easter Road to be a fortress, a bear pit where the opposition don’t want to be.
I don’t want to see our own squad being scared by the reception and atmosphere from their own
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Originally Posted by 1875-Hibernia
i am not kidding when i state a hammer drill would have had no effect whatsoever on the sausage roll i refused to leave the counter with at the st.mirren game, eventually getting my hard earned cash back, their comes a time when i/others must simply say...enough is enough, i've finally made my stand with the food...unfortunately i'm one more home game away from making a stand against the mediocrity on the pitch :agree:
Tbf it’s the first time in a long time that I have purchased one. It will be the last. A rebellion against the food kiosk is as needed as a performance on the pitch!Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
I'm not a boo-er - but I understand and accept that fans will let off steam - at HT/FT in particular - if the performance on the park is not deemed acceptable. And in the last few games we have certainly as a support had plenty to bump our gums about - following up a horrendous gubbing at Ibrox by conceding two 90th minute equalisers at home to two teams we should be beating comfortably if we have any European ambitions this season and so I wasn't surprised by the booing at 90 mins at both the last 2 home games even if I wasn't joining in. I don't hold with singling out players for abuse though and reckon we should be getting behind the team as much as we can in the 90 mins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
And so I partly take your point about the booing at StJ's first equaliser on Sat - it was a great goal created by a fantastic pass from our former (also unjustly booed) captain Liam Craig afterall. But you could also say that fans were booing the concession of an equaliser so very soon after an unforced tactical double sub by our manager from a winning position. We were under some pressure before the sub but if it was meant to take the pressure off and tilt the balance in our favour it clearly didn't work as St J dominated the second half and fully deserved their point.
So - even if you're not a boo-er by nature you have to concede there has been some justification for Hibees fans voicing their disquiet at what have been unconvincing performances under Hecky so far this season. I personally don't like to hear it but our fans are not robots and are only doing it cos they care.
I booed at full time as I was frustrated at once again hibs losing a goal in the dying minutes. I was taken aback by the booing of the sub. But I dont blame any who did boo, playing our best and most influential player out wide is madness, and not the first time he has done this as he played Flo out wide last season too.
I've lost faith in Heckingbottom, the football is awful to watch, we have only 1 win against top 6 opposition, he talked about high pressing attacking football with the players being fitter than they have ever been before but all we do is hoof it up the park. How anyone can blame the fans for getting annoyed is beyond me.
Also just like to add that I sit in the west lower and there was no booing of Middleton, he got booed by the st Johnston fans and the hibs fans clapped him, and as for people calling out some fans in the west lower, the crowd were fine till st Johnston equalised and then some rightfully let out their frustration at Heckingbottom, as it was clear to see that a goal was coming.
I think there is a very big difference between singling out a specific player for a bit of booing and the more general booing at HT. I can understand that an individual will take it differently but surely if whole team is booed off they will feel they want to turn that around during HT? So they all just go in and cry or want to phone their mum or does the manager say listen to that noise lets sort it. I think booing at HT can have a positive effect if the players have anything about them. I think its needed sometimes just a reminder that to some (and quite a lot on Saturday) what they are watching is not good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by basehibby
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Originally Posted by Northernhibee
I don’t think the supporters’ anxiety seeped through to the players," Jackson insisted.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
"We’ve all played a lot of games now, we’re all grown men, thick-skinned. We have to do it ourselves and play our game, we need to play how we want to play in attack and in defence. It’s down to us.
"The fans pay their money don’t they? It’s their choice and we have just got to keep working.
So these facts and also the research any links to it? As I stated the booing had FA to do with result and somebody playing was not affected by it. We drew because we played pish end of.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49515412
See the manager still reckons the crowd reaction on Saturday “transferred to the players” I.e he blames the crowd for the players not performing. Lot of rubbish.
I never joined in with any booing, and don't believe I ever have when aimed at anything Hibs. But on Saturday I understood the frustrations when the boos came for the changes our manager made (clearly aimed at his decision to hook Scott Allan). Changes to tactics which saw us lose an equaliser within a few minutes (albeit we replied even quicker to go in front again) and generally fall apart until we all knew what was coming in stoppage time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
If Hecky is now blaming the fans for what happened on Saturday then it's very disappointing for me.
He said there was anxiety in the performance before the boos, and it seemed like the boos transferred to the players on top of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
He didn't blame anyone for anything. If you listen to virtually anyone who's been involved in football they'll agree with him that an audibly unhappy home crowd has a negative affect on the home team.
He deployed Allan wide right but felt he stayed too wide and didn’t come infield enough....
Explains our tippy tappy slow possession based football. Zero pace, no width. Players are instructed to come infield. Hearts football make the pitch as narrow as possible.
Yikes.
How does that explain the pace of our play exactly? Wide players are expected to come inside when the ball is on the opposite side.Quote:
Originally Posted by RossScott1991
He never once blamed the crowd for the players not performing. Go listen to his interview in Hibs tv youtube I think what he’s said is fair no issues with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
That’s fine except Allan isn’t a wide player and it is an unfamiliar role for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibshibshibs1
I think the fact our main problem in the team is the midfield has no balance to it explains itself to be honest.
Not enough runners or pace in the side.
It hardly transfered onto the players. They had been ***** the 15 minutes before and after half time then the sub was made. Why is he ignoring that?
Did you watch the interview?Quote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
It would be nice if he could enlighten all us anxious folk about his decision to play him on the right wing.
Probably not a clever move to bring it up again, he should be looking to draw a line under it.
Do i need to? I read the quotes on the bbc and he says it transfered onto the players. It didnt. They were poor before the sub and after it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibshibshibs1
I'd probably say the guy who works with them every day has a better idea if it transfered to them or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
He didnt bring it up he was asked the questionQuote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
He did on the YouTube interview today and explains the decision fairly well. I’ve got to respect him for that but still don’t agree with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Turns out you do have to as you are slavering nonesenseQuote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
Well i mean im not. Are you going to expand or do the usual on here and make a sly dig and not back it up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Marvin
He said it looked like it tranfered onto the players. Yes or no?
Were we ***** for a good period before the allan sub and subsequent booing? Yes or no?
So did the booing affect the players performance? Yes or no?
Fair enough, will give it a listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulSmith
Was at and watched the game 👍 we were pish before the booing so how exactly did it affect the players? They hardly got any worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
We were definitely worse in the last 20 minutes than any other period. Do you think it helped them?Quote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
Spot on. It was horrible to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
You will find the correct answer to all of your questions in the interview. Or you could just make stuff upQuote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
I don’t think there is anything wrong with what he said. Of course a toxic atmosphere will transfer to the players. Naive to think otherwise.
He needs to understand why the players were anxious which he admits was prior to the fans reaction.
If he wants Scott Allan to come into the middle of the park why not start him there in the first place and play a genuine wide man to occupy the opposition fullback. Unfortunately what I took from his interview is he will continue to play him on the right rather than admit he’s got it wrong.
So you're accusing him of ignoring the 15 minutes before the sub even though you don't actually know what he said in the interview? Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
If you did watch the interview you'd see that he said there was anxiety in the performance before the boos.
I thought that was the best interview he’s given.
He seems a bit more sure of himself and confident. Maybe last week’s reaction hit home with him?
I don’t see anything wrong with what he’s said here.
Beat me to it. Thought he explained himself extremely well and the reasons for the fans comment and playing Scotty on the right. Thought he was bang on.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
Other than after the game last Saturday, he speaks relatively well most of the time I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
As we’ve seen with the high press chat, it’s one thing to say it but another thing all together to implement it. We’ll see on Saturday if anything has hit home.
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Originally Posted by Since452
Do you honestly think that was a good idea?
Do one hecky. Batting against the fans now to justify your calls that cost us three points, roll on the mutual termination. Won’t be missed.
Sorry, but I disagree with most of the posters on this.
Some really need to have a reality check. We are not the side we were a couple of seasons back. All the reasons we’re out of our control, good players moving on to better clubs, Lennon leaving, etc. I have supported Hibs for over 40 years and we always tend to have 3 or 4 good years, at best, then we fall away. We are in the midst of this happening now.
Heckingbottom has only been in charge for around 20 real games and has not a bad record, albeit we fell away badly at the end of last season and performances so far this season have been patchy.
He does seem a decent guy and deserves some patience from even our most fanatical support. He is though entering a significant run of fixtures with a difficult game on Saturday and after the international break a cup Q/final and games against Hearts, Celtic and Aberdeen. Real possibility we will lose on Saturday against a good Motherwell away on Saturday, which takes us into the international break. This is going to be a key period for our manager. He needs this time to get a few injuries cleared up and find the balance of still scoring goals but tightening things up at the back. He cannot complain about not getting more players in. Our goalie is one of the best in the league. James & Stevenson at full back with Porteous & Jackson at centre back. With Boyle out Hecky needs our two wide players, Horgan and Middleton to step up. Kamberi up front looking good but Doidge a waste of money. Allan is a shoe-in just behind Kamberi. Heckingbottom’s biggest problem is the midfield. We have no leaders with McGinn and McGeouch gone. Leaves us with the likes of Malllan, Vela, Slivka and the new guy Hallberg. Not convinced by the first 3 so hope Hallberg fits the bill. I would go with him and Vela as they have energy and get around the park.
If by the end of September we are out of the League Cup and in bottom 6 I would then have real concerns about Heckingbottom.
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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Nothing to do with the crowd imo.
We simply couldn’t keep possession and invited St Johnstone to have loads of chances to equalise.
Hecky is a chancer if he thinks he can palm off the blame on the fans.
I’ve seen this put up a few times. It needs to be different and it should be different with what we have in place nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
In those 40 years I bet we’ve never had the advantage we have now over most other teams in the league. The training ground and all the things we have in place there. Around 13,000 season ticket holders. Debt free.
If we just ‘fall away’ as we have in the past then it’s mismanagement all round. I’m not saying we should be nailed on to finish third or anything like that. But we should be looking capable of it at least.
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Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Spot on and the only way this cycle will be accepted is if the happy clappers get their way, where is the ambition!!???
Yup - maybe it’s a generation thing but the younger generation demand more.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
There is no reason we can’t do what Aberdeen have been doing as a minimum.
Some of the worst posts on this website are when folk say we have been crap before which means we have to be crap in future - I’m sorry but that’s not acceptable. Paying high ticket prices and with the infrastructure we have we should be doing better.
Ironic username. You're not really a realist are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeerealist
Ambition is a must. Without doubt. But a sense of proportion is a close second.
Of course it is possible to come 3rd. But shouldn't be an expectation. History clearly tells us this.
Always laugh when the 'happy clapper' tag is used. Quite a revealing view.
Smile. Life's not so bad.
Has anyone ever said "we have been crap before which means we have to be crap in future"? Apologies if someone has. I just find it really strange that anyone would say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
Spot on!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
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Originally Posted by GreenCastle
I do agree with this.
New ownership, great stadium, great facilities, established structure... why shouldn’t we now reap the benefits?
We often look enviously at the level of resources Aberdeen or Hearts have, but both those clubs have issues of their own to address.
Results aren’t guaranteed but we can surely expect a certain level of performance. If the boos help bring that home to Hecky, all to the good.
Hate to be the prophet of doom, but come the end of September that's exactly where we'll be. Big mistake appointing him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
*Prophet
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Can't disagree with that. For me the club is in better shape than it's ever been so at the very least we should be finishing 5th (which we did last season eventually) and aiming for 3rd and cup finals. There were reasons/excuses for us being poor in years gone by but there aren't any now. I just feel the modern fan wants instant results and performances and when it doesn't happen there's an OTT reaction. I know im in the minority on here but i think Heckingbottom will be good for us. Happy to eat my words and I'll be the first to say i was wrong if it doesn't work out.Quote:
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Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg
Not in so many words but there has been a number of posts pointing out that we've historically finished on average about 7th, or something like that, so we shouldn't really be expecting anything better.
I don't see any reason why we should settle for that, especially with where we are financially and with the stadium and training ground in place. Why shouldn't we kick on from there?
We were told to be patient whilst the infrastructure was sorted out, it's surely now time to kick on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg
Therefore SF history dictates present day / the future, we should be doing better and perhaps it would be nice to even over achieve once in a while too! My username is a username, it does not dictate every post I write, oh the irony!!
Having supported Hibs for a similar period of time I understand what you are saying but generally it’s not been good enough over that period. Why accept we fall away every few years. We should be better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
The support tomorrow will more tolerant than the larger Easter Road crowds. They won’t hold back if the performance is absolutely awful, but the travelling crowd does tend to more supportive and less inclined to jump upon every misplaced pass or poor passage of play. Same with most clubs I think.
I think the away support will be great tomorrow unless things are going badly wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carheenlea
Agreed but also many of the travelling die hards will let their opinions be known if the performance is anywhere near as bad as last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carheenlea
Frustrating like week we were so poor as a win and we would have taken a larger travelling crowd.
Bizarre comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrekko
I don't think anyone could deny that when things get even a little bit tough, the Hibs away support is far more patient and reasonable than the Hibs home support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrekko
We can be the 12th man for the opposition at Easter Road, and every opposition manager knows it.
I don't think we're there again yet, but the restlessness shown last week might yet worsen.
Are we really that much worse than anyone else though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Hearts routinely booed off at Tynecastle these days. Sheep getting a bit restless towards McInnes. I think it’s the same all over.
ER has been great for a few years because things have generally been positive on the pitch. If things aren’t so positive folk will either be less patient at the game or not go at all.
I don’t think the away support are that much more patient either. There are just less folk so it’s not so noticeable. If things go badly today I can almost guarantee there will be folk turning on each other in the stand.
More moaning *******s in home support, that true - however lets not bash our fans, this phenomenon is entirely the same for home v away supports around the country and not at all unique to Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Only plea I would make to is whether you’re wanting Heckingbottom out or not, try and get behind the team. Sure if a disaster unfolds and you want to vent then by all means. But I think the team need to be given a fair chance today and they need backing for that to be the case. Or at least not fans getting on top of them straightaway’
So because bad things happen elsewhere it makes it alright at ER. Logic like that is impossible to argue against because it is so off the scale wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
My folks had a great philosophy when I was a small person “two wrongs never made a right” they would say when I tried to deflect from my own errors. Not a bad position to take in life.
No worse than any other clubs support.
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Originally Posted by CentreLine
Keep up................
I was responding to another poster who suggested that We can be the 12th man for the opposition at Easter Road, and every opposition manager knows it.
My comment was saying that - imo - most if not all "home supports" have their fair share of moaners and its not confined to Hibs. I was definitely not saying it is a great state of affairs :aok:
No, Hibs fans are the worst in Scotland for moaning, being negative. Just generally the worst in scotland (well at least thats what some on here want you to believe).
No other clubs fans moan. Its a hibs problem.
I remember teams used to come to ER under Fenlon/Calderwood and would always come away with results citing “they knew the crowd would get on the players backs if it’s still 0-0 or if they are losing after 20/30 minutes”. We are slowly seeing a return to that just now.
There’s a reason for that though and it’s the pish football we are and were seeing. Under Stubbs and in that first year up under Lennon we were patient. We could see some good football. We were happy to wait as we dominated games and tried to make a breakthrough. Just now, we are being bossed at home by St Johnstone.
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Exactly this - its not exactly surprising that there are grumblings when a team with a third of our budget plays better than us at our home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Would be the same if we were playing Celtic off the park through there.
This is not unique to Hibs, its simply human nature.
If we play crap and lose badly to Motherwell today, then he will get pelters regardless of it being an away crowd.