didn't watch it but that's a bit of a surprise, the Japanese also beat south africa at last WC, i'd fancy them to beat Scotland in the last group game, Japan and Ireland will both beat Russia and i'm really not too confident we can beat Samoa
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didn't watch it but that's a bit of a surprise, the Japanese also beat south africa at last WC, i'd fancy them to beat Scotland in the last group game, Japan and Ireland will both beat Russia and i'm really not too confident we can beat Samoa
Another great morning of rugby today.
Caught the last 15 mins of Argentina vs Tonga and looks like the Argentinians had already wrapped the game up inside the opening 30 mins. Just like Scotland’s group, this is going to go right down to the wire to see who qualifies for the quarters alongside most likely England.
Japan vs Ireland was a fantastic game! Thought pre-match, it was going to be a tight game with Ireland just about edging it but I was totally wide off the mark with that prediction! Japan were excellent throughout and well deserved winners in the end. Even though an Irish win would have been more ideal looking at it from a Scottish perspective , I was even starting to cheer on the Japanese as it would have been totally cruel if they didn’t win that game. Showed Scotland and Gregor Townsend up on how you beat this Irish team! Talking about Scotland, result now means we need to pick up bonus point wins over both Samoa & Russia as well as a win over Japan. Can I see us doing it? After last week, definitely not but let’s see what happens against Samoa on Monday and take things from there.
South Africa vs Namibia was as you expected. Showcasing their incredible depth and virtually steam rolling over the Namibian’s. Such an entertaining team to watch when they all click together.
Tomorrow, two decent games from Group D, Georgia vs Uruguay & Australia vs Wales.
Don’t forget Edinburgh vs Zebre later this evening at 7.35pm live on Premier Sports
Not sure it is. Ireland get a losing bonus point and Japan get the points for the win. I would say that unless Japan slip up against Samoa you are going to have to hammer Japan to get a bonus point and to stop them getting losing bonus point. You will also have to get your points difference up and try to get bonus point wins against Russia and Samoa.Quote:
Originally Posted by tillguy
Cracking start from Wales so far, 10-0.
10-5
10-8, Great game so far. 👏
13-8
23-8 ht
26-15, what a game!
Good game this. Wales lucky not to be getting a yellow card in there. 3 penalties in a row inside the 5m line.
Fancy The Aussies from here, 26-22
26-25
Yip, 13 to go, 1 point in it. Wales can't get the ball and Australia looking dangerous
wales will still win
i think wales should have went for the line-out there instead of taking the penalty
29-25
the aussies have shot themselves in the foot here..twice
Aus starting to make some silly mistakes now. Couple of stupid penalties, one for off side and one in the line out from that one gives Wales an easy 3. Daft forward pass there as well
i've already got the QF line-ups ;)
Eng v Aus
NZ v Jap
Wales v France
Ireland v South africa
SF
Eng v NZ
Wales v Ireland
Final
i'm not telling yi
Six minutes to go. Wales will strangle the game now. Here we go scrum time and time wasted. They are absolute masters of this type of thing
aussies miss touch tut tut
and they've mucked up yet again
25-29 FT. Great game, really enjoyed that.
Fantastic from Wales this morning. Feel we can beat France in the quarters too.
Might be able to Rest a few players against Uruguay.
Wales doing what they do best.
First game that kickstarted the morning was Georgia vs Uruguay. Was hoping Uruguay would kick on from their big victory against Fiji a couple of days ago but it wasn’t to be. Georgia claiming a bonus point victory.
Australia vs Wales was a fantastic game. Real edge of the seat stuff. Wales were brilliant and deservedly won that close game. The Wallabies played really well in the 2nd half but a disappointing 1st half cost them. Wales who have now won two in a row against Australia after losing 13 straight to the Wallabies. Overall, what a fantastic game that was!
Now, tomorrow it’s Scotland vs Samoa. Hoping we win but God knows what lies in store! Let’s see what happens!
Do Scotland need to not only win but win with bonus point with Japan winning and Ireland getting bonus point though losing. If so can't see it.
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Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Pretty much yes, bonus point is going to be crucial. One of the reasons why Ireland decided to kick the ball out for FT against Japan was to protect their bonus point. One more Japan point in that game would have cost them that.
Might be wrong but I think that’s what determines who finishes where if two or more teams have the same number of points before GD.
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lose this we're out, but knowing south africa awaits that wouldn't be too calamitous
I have a horrible feeling about this.
Scotland to win by more than Three tries.
the wee japanese mascot laddie singing FoS :)
what a difference that closed roof will make to the atmosphere
it's not like us to make an error near the try line
:rolleyes:
samoans having to make a change after just 3 mins
Darcy Graham deserves his shot. He's been incredible for Edinburgh for a few seasons now.
penalty Scotland 3-0 after 9 mins
lol maitland, lord knows what that was supposed to be
what a kick from Hogg
not a pretty game so far
Few too many errors sneaking into the game from our part.
Error after error after error.
Is it just me, or are the Scottish commentators' pronunciation of Samoa getting on anyone else's nerves?
millions of japanese TV's getting switched over to the weather channel instead
basics, just basics
I complained about the piss poor handling during the six Nations and we're still doing it. It's crap coaching.
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now THAT is more like it try Scotland
great conversion kick 10-0
gilchrist spills the restart :rolleyes:
That was excellent rugby. 3 to go
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brilliant by laidlaw try 15-0
converted 17-0
In there. Hopefully build on that the second half now confidence back.
millions of japanese TV's have switched over again after hearing rugby has broken out
what a drop goal from hogg :flag:
Both Hogg and Russell's kicking has been exceptional.
that was a scotland knock-on in the ruck there
and there's the scotland we all know, **** up eventually
what a chance blown for another try, wha's like us eh
Yep. Get the hopes up time and they baws it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Can’t argue with a 20-0 lead at ht though, Samoa look tired and have no confidence - famous last words.
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Originally Posted by 90+2
i think we should have got the penalty try over in the corner, then under the posts we knocked on imo, not surprised a couple of samoans shouted knock on as well
fgs darcy graham catch the ball son
has to be a penalty try shirly
and a yellow card
referee agrees with me :)
if we can keep the samoans to a duck-egg here i'l be quite impressed
samoa back to 15, didn't lose a point
maitland goes on mazy run again, off-loads to a samoan again
See if they blow the bonus point here....
Beginning to doubt we're going to get it. It's lazy rugby at times. The fouls are inexcusable.
if we fail to get a bonus point here townsend needs sacked straight after :agree:
what a dreadful 2nd half performance so far
lol wow the samoan kicked that ball dead, i don't think i've ever saw that from that position on the field
then maitland blows it going in for a try, dire, just so dire
oooooh could be another penalty try instead, well done maitland :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin
Oh no Maitland....
Might be ok and get a penalty try out of this.
YES! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
if we didn't have a barrowload of errors this could have been our biggest winning margin against samoa
and again we totally **** up right in front of the posts, astonishing
Job done phew.
are we determined to let them score
samoans first duck-egg at a world cup
Well thank God for that!
Waking up this morning, I felt we were going to win but not get that crucial bonus point which would have felt like a defeat. First 30 mins, despite leading 3-0, was very scrappy with both teams making a number of handling errors and us failing to make our superior possession count. Our first try was a superb cross-field kick by Russell for Maitland to catch and dive over the try line. 2nd try came four minutes later. Great work by both Russell and the superb Jamie Ritchie sent Laidlaw through, who did really well to keep hold of possession, and score the 2nd try. From there, I felt it was just a matter of time we were going to get this bonus point as Samoa were absolutely offering nothing. Hogg scored an absolute superb drop goal to pretty much make sure of the win and from there just focus on getting that bonus point. 2nd half and again we had to be patient for that 3rd try and eventually came via TMO after the Samoa winger was penalised and yellow carded for coming in at the side which stopping a try coming from a rolling maul. Over 20 mins to go, we started getting very desperate again and the silly errors creeped back into our game again. Kept on rushing and rushing for this try rather than doing what the Japanese did against the Irish at the weekend - don’t rush and just be patient with our play, we have over 20 mins left. Build phases which will tire out the Samoan forwards. An opening will come. Finally that 4th try did come with 6 mins remaining. Quick play from the offload sent Maitland through to score but he lost control after the same culprit, came across with pace and slid into Sean with his knees. Referee correctly awards a penalty try after consulting with the TMO and the same Samoan player was shown a 2nd yellow which resulted in a red.
First clean sheet of the tournament. Wasn’t a 5 star performance but I don’t care about that just now as the main thing is we got the bonus point win!
Our next game is against Russia a week on Wednesday before the big one against Japan, 4 days later. A similar scoreline like today against the Russians will set us up nicely for the Japanese game.
No rugby tomorrow. The two games on Wednesday are France vs USA and New Zealand vs Canada.
Had the granddaughter all day, so 1st time online.
Cracking game play by Scotland executed perfectly, good tries, bonus point and a clean sheet, we have a chance to progress with performances like that.
Played really well - they should’ve had more than the 2 sin bins. I was really impressed by the leadership shown by Hogg and thought Richie was excellent.
For those complaining about the handling - it’s been discussed during other matches that the ball is like a bar of soap due to the 90% humidity and sweat.
Great result, we’ll get the 5 points vs Russia next week then it’s onto the decider vs Japan.
New Zealand are 10/11 with a - 67 points handicap v Canada
While I wholeheartedly expect the All Blacks to win, that would be utterly ridiculous!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamish
I'm not so sure it is.
Having noted some of their pool match results in previous campaigns, I actually agree with you - 108 points vs Portugal...scary!Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
All Blacks look horrifying going forward, but even they're not immune to handling errors.
They're lagging behind a bit! ☺Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Back on track again - 35-0 after 42 mins.
49-0 after 48 minutes.
49-0 now!
I've only been watching since half-time and they've scored 21 pts in 8 minutes.
Oh Canada! :boo hoo:
Umm, not so sure I want the 2nd place in our pool now. :worried:
63-0
Imagine taking that bet then having to suffer that Barrett fumble in injury time! Ouch! 😱Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamish
I cashed out with my France -22 in the first game with 20 mins left. Thank god.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Told you it was utterly ridiculous :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
A more clinical NZ team could have hit 100 odd points easily. Some difficult handling conditions and trying to be a bit too clever at times.
Still, 63 unanswered points is pretty scary. Even against a team as poor as Canada.
France not at their best but always have a habit of doing well at World Cups. Fancy them to sneak 2nd spot ahead of Argentina. That victory against them on MD1 was massive!
New Zealand very comfortable winners as everyone anticipated although agree with what Sylar said above about their performance. A better NZ team could have scored 100 or more points against Canada but a bit of carelessness at times in their play and tough conditions only see them settle with just 63 points to nil 🙂
Tomorrow it’s Georgia vs Fiji and then Ireland vs Russia.
Georgia vs Fiji was quite an interesting match. I thought Georgia were playing not bad in the 1st half despite trailing 7-3 and looking the much better team. 2nd half, Fiji were a different animal and ripped the Georgians to shreds. Massive win for the Fijian’s to make up for the poor showing & shock result against Uruguay. Also finishing in the top 3 of your pool guarantees an automatic qualifying spot for France 2023.
Ireland vs Russia had a lot riding on it. Ireland looking to make up for that shock defeat to the Japanese and knowing a bonus point win would take them one step closer to the quarters. I didn’t see the game as was out with the Mrs but heard it was a comfortable Irish win although the performance was lethargic. End of the day, they got the win and bonus point which is all that really matters in the end.
Tomorrow, it’s South Africa vs Italy.
deserved red for one italian, could very easily have been a 2nd for the other one, what on earth possessed them to pile-drive the south africans head in to the ground :rolleyes:
45 mins on the clock, presently 17-3 SA
What a ridiculous tackle (by both of them). After the whistle as well as dangerous and illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
They were never going to get back into the game but that sealed it for them.
Good comfortable win in the end for the Springboks but I thought before the red card, Italy were making a good fist of it. They had chances to score and defended pretty decently against a very powerful South African forward line. Game changed when the two stupid Italian’s performed a tag team move you see on WWE on The South African number 8 Duane Vermeulen. What on earth were the both of them thinking? Only Andrea Lovotti got sent off but the other culprit, Nicola Quaglio should have been red carded too. You’ve just won a penalty a few metres away from the South African try line and if you score a converted try, you reduce the deficit to just 7 points and get a bit of momentum behind you. You then do that? Stupidity beyond belief! Once the red was shown, South Africa just steamrolled the Italians scoring 5 tries and a penalty to win the game 49-3. Also special mention to the wee South Afrcian wing wizard - Cheslin Kobe. An absolute talent and for me, one of the best wingers in the world! I hope the unfortunate ankle injury he picked up towards the end of the game is nothing serious.
Tomorrow we have 3 games which are - Australia vs Uruguay, England vs Argentina & Japan vs Samoa. A fantastic morning of Rugby before the football begins! 😊
Pretty confident Japan will win but we could really do with Samoa stopping them getting the bonus point.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Yeah unfortunately, I can’t see anything other than a Japanese victory. Samoa look nothing that great from what I’ve seen in these past two games against Russia and ourselves. Hopefully they prove me wrong and give us all a major shock. Even stopping Japan getting the bonus point will be massive!
Argentina red card means a bonus point win for England I'm afraid. They are making heavy weather of it though against 14 men.
Red card has spoiled this game, correct decision though.
Gee thanks, Samoa :rolleyes:
FFS, Samoa why did you not just kick it out and go for a lineout at the halfway line if you wanted to try and get a losing bonus point?! So stupid going for the scrum, 5 metres out from your own try line!
Even if we get the bonus point win against Russia, it’s still in Japan’s hands and I just can’t see us beating them by more than 7 points with 4 tries. Plus they also have the advantage of having more time to prepare for the game than we do.
I think if we get a BP win against Russia and improve our points difference by +23 then we “only” have to win and stop Japan getting the losing bp.
It’s possible but Samoa just putting the bloody ball out would’ve helped!
Mental decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
I'm still optimistic we'll do whatever needs to be done against Japan and go thru. Or maybe that's the whisky speaking now.😁
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Originally Posted by Golden Bear
Pass some of that whisky over here mate! 😁
I think we can beat them next week as well. We can’t be as bad again as we were against Ireland and I’m not convinced Japan can be as good as they were against Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
i didn't watch the japanese against ireland so i've no idea how good they were, but samoa showed today they can be got at and i'm now slightly more confident we can beat them, having said that it's the scottish way that we will beat them but somehow it just won't be enough to go through
We'll **** it up against Russia and then destroy Japan in typical Scottish fashion.
Australia vs Uruguay - Australia got back to winning ways with a comfortable 45-10 victory against Uruguay. I thought Uruguay did give a good account of themselves early on but eventually tired and lapses of concentration let them down. Despite the scoreline, I felt Australia’s performance was a little lethargic by their standards. You can tell by MC’s their were some parts they done well and others which were making him very uneasy! Overall, they got the win, which is all that matters.
England vs Argentina - I thought early stages Argentina were making a real good game of this until the red card in the 18th minute for Argentina’s Tomas Lavanini, which for me ended the game as a contest. England pretty much ran away with it from there and officially became the first team in the 1/4 finals.
Japan vs Samoa - As you can see from my comments earlier, I ain’t happy one bit with why Samoa decided to go for a scrum at the end! What on God’s earth were they stupid idiots thinking? That bonus point for Japan could be massive! Take nothing away, when Japan are playing at their very best, they look very good outfit but in the 1st half half, I felt Samoa dome pretty well and were only trailing by 7 points and had only conceded just 1 try. They didn’t let the Japanese get into any sort of a rhythm like you seen against the Irish. Overall Japan deserved the win and with 10 mins to go, I was very happy that Samoa had somewhat kind of frustrated them until the last 5 mins of the match when the Japanese scored two tries and sent their whole nation wild. Over to Scotland now...
Tomorrow (well later this morning) we have New Zealand vs Namibia and France vs Tonga