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I don't think Price is fit. He's not noticeably fat but he doesn't have a great deal of definition which suggests a high body fat percentage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brussel Patepy
I had high hopes for him but as you say he has a low ring IQ and he hasn't progressed at all since his early fights.
Price definitely wasn't as defined as he's been in earlier fights. I'm not sure if that was a tactical thing or lack of fitness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I had high hopes for him as well when he turned pro. He certainly has the physical attributes (chin aside) and a decent skill level (jab aside). He just doesn't know how to apply it and seems to lack the heart and dedication to even beat B class opposition.
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Originally Posted by Brussel Patepy
I had seen an interview with dave coldwell just after he started training him he said he was too light for his frame and encouraged him to fill out which in theory is fine if it doesn't take away from his conditioning which it clearly did last night for a professional to be gassed after 3 rounds is unforgivable.especially one that's looking for a world title shot.questions should also be asked of coldwell he clearly thought he would ko him early then left him badly exposed as the fight went on.
Don't wish the guy any harm as he seems a good guy but I don't see a future for him reminds me of an out shape audley harrison.
Will itv release how many buys they got for last night? Be interested to see what the numbers were although I don't think it will be that much.
60k buys apparently for CEJ fight.
Just on Price. Hammer was a big step up to his last two guys, not sure his stock went down any by the loss as he was not the favourite. Still has obvious flaws but he still punches well as the knock down showed.
60k buys isn't too bad.I thought it would have been less not quite the millions eubank snr was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackLadd
I still think the price performance was poor especially as he was looking for a future title shot which is a million miles away now.
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Originally Posted by hibs#1
If he'd beaten Hammer he was a stick on for first dibs at the Parker Hughie Fury winner. I suspect he'll go back to the euro bum circuit and try and build some confidence. Won't quit, too many ABC belts out there. When Briggs Oquendo is a title fight no need to hang up yet.
Surprised that 60K people bought that fight. I thought it was a shocking fight to have a a PPV. Not even one of the big world titles!
Josh Taylor confirmed for headlining a show at Meadowbank on 24th March against South African Champion Warren Joubert.
Another step up for Josh, but another great night ahead at Meadowbank.
Think it's to be on channel 5 aswell which is more good experience for the lad.definitely think he's with the right team with the mcguigans not a huge stable but get there fighters good fights and on the TV Alot.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
Excited for the young guys career think he'll go along way.
After their tie up with Frank Warrens boxnation here are the fights that are simulcast on BT sport.
Some not bad fights there!
http://sport.bt.com/boxing/bt-sport-...11364140771278
Where can you get tickets for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
They are on ticketmaster buddy :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
Scott quigg away to LA to train with Freddie roach interesting move for him.
Surprised Freddie is still going. Good on him though defying Parkinsons the way he does.
Looks like Pacman vs Khan has been made for April 23. Even at 38 I think Pac still has a bit too much for Amir.
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Originally Posted by Nameless
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Fair play.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
I didn't watch the fight, I only know the result - was Bellew value for it?
After all the hateful build up, I'm glad he won, as Haye was throwing out some sick comments.
P.p.v .sugar ray , duran, marvin,hearns oh yes.
Blubber gob shyt scouse boy and Mr loves himself -I dont think so.
Pretty much exactly what I was going to post.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinaman
Good post.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinaman
Eddie hearn has lost the purse bid for callum smiths world title fight seems strange with the sky backing.
Pacman v Khan is off.
The fight was never officially signed. The new talk is Pacquiao vs Jeff Horn. Not sure about Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
Hughie Fury confirmed to fight Joseph Parker on 6th May in New Zealand
Very winnable fight that IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw
Jack Culcay v Demetrius Andrade : WBA Super-Welterweight Title
Ludwigshafen, Germany , Sky Sports 2 HD (21:00)
Decent fight this. Tonight
Watched that fight. Closer than many were saying.
1st time id seen either fight wasn't overly impressed with either.decent enough fight thought it was the right result.Quote:
Originally Posted by nellio
Really like gamal yafai think he has a big future.
Lemieux knocked Stevens out cold in three last night. I've not watched the repeat of the Gamboa v Alvarado fight yet but it was apparently a snooze fest so I don't think I'll bother.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
I didn't see either of them. I did paulie malignaggi on twitter taking about the size of lemieux was ridiculous and he had missed the ibf check in on the morning of the fight without any consequences.how did you see it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brussel Patepy
I watched it on Sportsmania on kodi mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
Sorry I meant about lemieux's size.didn't word it very wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Brussel Patepy
Sky and Eddie hearn running their new nxtgen show for the 1st time on Friday night.should be good viewing.
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For Parker? Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by yonder1875
GGG v jacobs tonight , cant wait
Some result for David Brophy last night. Going all the way to Australia and beating the previously unbeaten Zac Dunn by stoppage. Career best performanc by a distance from him.
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Originally Posted by makaveli1875
Is this PPV
Think it's on boxnation which is a subscribe channel but should get on kodi or othersQuote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
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Originally Posted by cammy1969
4 o'clock, might give it a miss :greengrin
Well done Jacobs, great gameplan and display there, ****ing farce of scoring and a total GGG love in by the judges, can't see how two of them had it by 3
I had money on triple g to win on decision and i honestly thought i had lost it, Jacobs was well ahead. Absolute joke imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
Jacobs boxed well but I had Golovkin by 2. The knockdown and the fact he was on the front foot throughout edged it for me.
Roman Gonzalez losing was a real shock, The Ring had him as their pound for pound number 1 before his fight.
thats pretty much how i saw it too , jacobs put up a hell of a fight thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I'm closer to you mate. I had Golovkin by 1 round. He dominated the jab especially in the early rounds and it went almost totally unoticed. It was a close fight and definitely not a roberry no matter who won the fight. GGG is slightly past his best now and ready for the taking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Gonzalez is a certified ATG flyweight and even in defeat that was a showing of an ATG he put on against Wangek. I think he's past his prime now and he was fighting above his prime weight against a huge punching highly respected elite super flyweight and he went to war with him showing tremendous offensive skills. Brilliant fight.
My God Son had his first boxing session this morning. He's a future world champion... In about 20 years!
Jacobs won that
Anyone watched liam Williams before he's fighting liam smith soon just noticed he's favourite.
http://www.boxingscene.com/josh-tayl...rt-six--114929
am i right in thinking both winners..josh taylor and Jason Easton, are both hibs fans ?
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Josh is a Hibee, as far as I know Easton supports celtic, could be wrong about that one though
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Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
ok ta :thumbsup:
Liam Williams is decent, I believe he would get chewed up at this moment in time if he stepped in with any of the main players in the divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
Canelo, Andrade, the Charlo's, Lara and even Trout, Also Brook will move up soon.
But Williams is young enough at 24 and has time to improve so there is no rush and we can see how he develops.
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Originally Posted by Hiberniankb
Cheers mate.just found the odds strange smith I've seen and while a good fighter hes a shade under the names you mention where as I hadn't really heard of Williams before.
I'd imagine can canelo will give up his title aswell and move up aswell.brook I thought he would have moved up after ggg but fair play to him for taking the Spence fight.
Crolla v linares tonight.
Fingers crossed for crolla but can't see it.
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Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Your maybe right, but £10 on Crolla to win in the 10th round.
He will be lucky to see the 10th round, taking a bit of a hammering here.
Linares looking very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
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I've got it 4-2 to linares.
He's throwing so much.
Crolla down
Well crolla either needs a ko or multiple knock downs in the next three.
Thought he maybe slightly edged that round.
He's stuck in well but doesn't look like he's got the power to knock the boy out at this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Linares (presumably) wins on points by a distance.
Fair play to crolla for keeping going.just didn't have the speed or skills to outbox Linares nor the power to hurt him.
Still think he can fight on if he wishes some good fights out there for him would like Linares vs garcia next please.
Pointless rematch to be honest, Crolla schooled again but well paid so everyone is happy.
Linares was class last night. Next up Garcia I hope. Mikey Garcia is a bit special and Robert Eastern Jr is highly rated. Think he schools Flanagan but the other two lightweight champions are tough tough fights for Linare's. Garcia's been calling out Terence Crawford so he could be looking to move up in weight soon.
I thought it was a very poor card last night in general including the main event, complete mismatch.
https://youtu.be/ugGNKHrJXbE
Brilliant video of the one and only Manos de Piedra a certified top 10 ATG who possessed one of the most complete skillsets in boxing history. Arguably thee most skilled on extensive footage.
lomachenko fighting tonight , been looking forward to this 1
Usyk on the undercard, best Cruiser going about these days, world class operatorQuote:
Originally Posted by makaveli1875
Me too .lomachenko is pure entertainment,all round class operater.Quote:
Originally Posted by makaveli1875
Liam smith failed to make weight and claim they thought he only had an hour to try to make it then found out it was 2.
Joe Gallagher doesnt know the rules ? Aye right
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Originally Posted by chinaman
The smith part does seem strange he was lucky Williams got a bad cut or I think he'd have lost.
Burns v Relikh what a bl00dy good fight.
Come on Ricky.
Ricky is going to let this guy punch himself out and take him in the later rounds. Burns is way too experienced for this guy.
Agree, let the boy expend his energy, Burns has been here before.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Na na na na na na na Ricky Ricky burns,Quote:
Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs
Burns is getting battered. Needs a knock out already.
I don't know the more technical aspects of how to judge a boxing match, but from what I've seen so far, Burns is getting a right gubbing here.
Time to step it up Ricky
Give it up.....Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
I know, but I still have hope :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs
As one sided as today unfortunately.
Gutted for him, he's lost every round.
Retire on your feet Ricky.
Where the bl00dy hell did he come from? Fantastic performance from Indongo, fair play.
Should finish 120-108
Burns to retire a 3 weight world champion. (Presumably)
Agreed. Go out on his shield. A true Scottish boxing legend.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs
Eddie Hearn right over to indongo...
Ridiculous scoring as usual. One judge had only 4 rounds in it. Hopefully Ricky retires now, a great champion.
Looks like he's going to carry on after that interview.
Hopefully his wife talks some sense into him.Quote:
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I think he might need the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
The whole Frank Warren situation cleaned him out. It wouldn't surprise me to see Eddie Hearn try to set up the Josh Taylor fight now for one last payday. Whether McGuigan et al would take it at this stage is another matter. Looking at Burns last few fights though it might just be the time (for Taylor).
I'm sure I heard mention of Taylor wanting to fight at the castle when the seats are up for the tattoo in the summer. Could be possible?
There was a good piece on josh in boxing monthly a couple of months ago and he said his dream is to fight at the castle or Easter road. Taylors class and won't be long till he's moved up to elite levelQuote:
Originally Posted by nellio
Top Rank present a Triple World Championship boxing event tonight in LA. Just the kind of night out I need to forget about the semifinal today.
Adeilson Dos Santos vs Jesse Magdaleno WBO Super Bantamweight
Maxim Bursak vs Gilberto Ramirez WBO Super Middleweight
Miguel Marriaga vs Oscar Valdez WBO Featherweight
The fight everyone wants to see is Shakur Stevenson making his pro debut vs Edgar Brito. Jay Z and Floyd Mayweather were trying to sign up Stevenson but he chose to fight for Top Rank.
A wee bonus from last night was meeting Jason Quigley and Michael Conlan.
I never got the chance to reply to a post aimed towards me in the AJ vs Wlad thread due to the thread being deleted (because of me apparently :rolleyes:). The post insinuated that I was a casual for posting about Duran's skills/greatness before Tommy Hearns and a video was posted of the Hearns destruction of Duran like it proved a point :rolleyes:
Well there was a few factors to that loss. Factors outside the ring like Duran eating and partying too much and a poor training camp. After Duran made huge life changing money after beating Leonard in Montreal he started living like a king and didn't take boxing as seriously anymore. Durans poor condition was even mentioned During the fight by I think it was Leonard. Another factor was Duran being past his prime. When Duran fought in the fab four era he had already cemented his legacy in the 70's as the greatest lightweight of all time by dominating the division for nearly a decade beating the likes of hof Ken Buchanan and Esteban DeJesus x2. He also had fights at light welterweight beating the likes of hof Mexican Carlos Palomino. You need to understand Duran debuted as a bantamweight and beat the likes of the brilliant Ernesto Marcel at featherweight when he was 19 yo before he peaked as a lightweight so the other obvious factor is the physical advantages the other fab four held over Duran. They were all at their best weights and in their physical primes when Duran fought them. Duran a natural lightweight was only 5 foot 7 with a shortish reach. Leonard and especially Hearns and Hagler all held huge physical advantages over Duran. Duran fought Hearns at super welter and Hearns had a 6 or 7 inch hight advantage over Duran with a whopping 12 inch reach advantage. For Duran to have had any chance of beating Hearns he would have needed to have got himself into the kind of shape mentally and physically that he got himself into for the first Leonard fight in Montreal where he was phenomenally sharp and focussed, but unfortunately for him he didn't. Tommy also had tremendous skills with speed and freakish power to go with those huge physical advantages.
Duran might not have came out on top in all his fab four fights but he is considered the greatest fighter out of all them because of what he did before he fought Hearns, Hagler and Leonard, and by daring to be great by going up weights and challenging much bigger men, four of them being top tier all time greats if you include his points loss to the brilliant Wilred Benitez.
Durans win over Leonard is arguably the greatest win in history. He stepped up and beat the golden boy of the welterweight division who would go on to become the second greatest welterweight of all time behind Ray Robinson. Then came the 'No Mas' fight which is a huge stain on Duran's legacy. Duran spent the whole camp cutting weight and was in poor fighting condition. On the other side Leonard devised a hit and move strategy knowing this was going to be the case having seen fat Duran in a restaurant the night he signed for the fight. Leonard even admits Duran was not the animal he was in Montreal saying he was slower and physically less strong. The fight wasn't the schooling people make it out to be though. Leonard was only one or two rounds up. It makes the quit even more strange knowing Duran wasn't hurt once During the fight or even marked. His excuse was stomach cramps but in reality I think the clowning Leonard was doing was frustrating Duran and he knew he wasnt in the condition to do anything about it so he thought **** him and turned his back and quit in disgust. He never actually said "No Mas" to the ref. He said "I'm not fighting this clown"
Duran was superb against Marvin Hagler. Think he was up on the cards after 12 but gassed in the last 3 rounds. Duran was showing Marvin moves he'd never seen before in that fight. The greatest lightweight of all time way past his best gave arguably the greatest middleweight of all time all he could handle and was the first to take him 15 rounds in a title fight. Hagler went on to say he earned his PhD in the ring after he fought Duran. Duran basically hung with Hagler on skill and ring craft alone as he was physically way past prime and at a huge disadvantage physically.
Duran also beat the **** out of highly rated Davie Moore for the Light middleweight title and shocked the world when at 38 he out fought huge middleweight Iran Barkley who had just got off destroying Tommy Hearns. Barkley was huge for the weight. He went on to win a world light heavyweight title and compete at heavyweight. It's like 38 yo Mayweather Jr beating Kovalev, that's how big that win is.
Duran's issues outside the ring and fighting way past his prime meant he had loses to fighters he should never be losing against like Kirkland Laing and Robbie Sims but he also managed to shock the world after poor periods when it looked like he was done. He was robbed badly against Hector Camacho in 96 when he was 45 yo. That should have been another middleweight title he won against all the odds. Camacho would go on to stop Ray Leonard the next year.
To finish off my huge probably pointless post i'll add Hearns, Hagler and Leonard all state Duran is the greatest fighter they ever fought. Duran is one of few fighters to compete at the top in 5 different decades. He's a certified top ten all time great with Leonard usually ranked in there too. Some historians rank Duran top 5. Duran is Mike Tysons Idol and even the none praising Floyd Mayweather Jr has him as the greatest he's watched. Duran in his prime is arguably the most complete fighter we have on extensive footage with his great offence combined with his great defence blended together seamlessly. Duran ticked lots of boxes in the skillset department. He was a brutal whirlwind of craft, skills and athleticism.
Manos de Piedra :not worth