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I don't believe for a moment that there's anyone in government just now who would benefit from spreading lies to promote unrest between opposition parties at Westminster, so that's probably true. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
I’m against Clark and Soames being deselected. Jess Phillips was good on this but I’m not a Tory so it’s up to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by GORDONSMITH7
I’m not anti-Labour. I’m anti-populist left wing entryistas who are making Labour insufficiently representative and unelectable.
Vote of no confience.
Vote against election.
Boris holes below the waterline.
Propose a compromise candidate as temporary PM with just a straight majority.
Deal with Brexit.
Have an election.
Even if there was the promise of an Indyref2 up for grabs, there's no way the SNP would do this - they know that they'd lose a huge number of supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
For context, Christine Jardine is first and foremost fanatically anti-Nat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
Her source is that great bastion of truth Alistair Carmichael which tells you all you need to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee
This one's not too bad either.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
They wouldn't lose any supporters over this. The date of the election is in reality an irrelevance to the SNP as they'll all but clean up in Scotland no matter what. The Tories will lose seats due to the party's Brexit stance and the loss of Ruth Davidson as their Scottish figurehead, Labour will continue to fail to win seats due to Corbyn's unpopularity and the Lib Dems will maybe hold on to what they have. Leaves the way clear for an increase in SNP seats so as far as they're concerned, deal or no deal any day is good with them for an election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Nonsense, if the direct result was a no-deal Brexit then their credibilty and support would plummet, even among their core support.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
I'm genuinely concerned about the prospect of a no-deal Johnson majority government.
Sums it up for me too. There's hypocrisy at play here too from Labour claiming to be outraged by the Tory sackings bearing in mind the number of MPs who have felt unable to serve in Corbyn's shadow cabinet coupled with the number who have left the party altogether citing bullying and anti-Semitism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
Don't agree. If anything no deal will boost the SNP support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Even though the prorogation drastically reduces the scrutiny that Johnson will get in Parliament before an election, there'll still be plenty more opportunities for him to embarrass himself in front of the nation. The longer that Labour delays an election, the less likely that Johnson will sweep to victory. Everyone saw Tan Dhesi yesterday - that won't have influenced some of Johnson's base, but switherers and waverers will have taken note.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
It will, but not if they cause it.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
this :agree:
Stop slavering.Quote:
Originally Posted by GORDONSMITH7
I couldn't give a flying fig about what the Tories do to each other, but it's touching that you care so much. Wasn't Ken Clarke a member of Thatcher's cabinet for her entire tenure? Remember her? Poll tax, miners, anti TU laws. You must have fond memories, right enough.
Momentum weren't planning on deselecting on the basis of ability. They were deselecting purely on the basis of politics and loyalty to them and Corbyn.
Not if the SNP played a complicit role in it happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
Not if they're seen to have helped it happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
Beat me too it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Not if they facilitate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
I’ve been too busy to follow the nonsense recently too closely but I’m confused already this ‘no deal’ bill.
Is it not the case that if we have a GE and the Tories get a working majority then they could simply repeal this bill and then no deal is back on the table (albeit maybe after another deadline delay)?
If so then what is the point in Labour faffing about re wanting a GE or not?
Apologies of this is a dumb question as as I’ve said I’ve not had the time to follow the ins and outs!
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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Can't argue with that level of agreement :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Colr
Actually, I don't think I'd vote for them if they did that.
You're correct but there could easily be another hung parliament post-GE with Johnson clinging on for no deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
And there's the tactical ploy of forcing Johnson to ask for an extension thereby failing in his own "do or die" pish, feeding Farage's betrayal narrative to split the Leave vote.
Jo Johnson resigns (again :greengrin).
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In recent weeks I’ve been torn between family loyalty and the national interest - it’s an unresolvable tension & time for others to take on my roles as MP & Minister.
I wonder if Boris will do a deal with Farage when push comes to shove?
Beginning of the end for the rubber bath toy ****show? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Nice gag from twitter - "he's resigned to spend less time with his family". :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee