Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by -Jonesy-

Well he did say yesterday he doesn’t care what the press or the public think so I guess this won’t bother him at all.

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Bet his neighbours love him.[emoji23]


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The lesser spotted Johnson is going to take today’s press briefing at 5

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Originally Posted by Barney McGrew

The lesser spotted Johnson is going to take today’s press briefing at 5

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Wonder if Cummings will be gone in the hour?


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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

I used football as an example of what it means to “live your life”, I could’ve chosen any number of things.


Using a sentence such as “I want my football back even if it costs lives” doesn’t even come close to what I was suggesting.

I do wonder what you consider as being safe and how long that safety net lasts for.

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Same sentiment though. You’d consider doing something that could cost lives to be able to live yours as you want? How completely selfish. We will Surely all need to adapt in some form or other if we need to

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Wonder if Cummings will be gone in the hour?


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Well he's been in no 10 for 4 hours so who knows.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Wonder if Cummings will be gone in the hour?


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Actually he’ll probably announce an inquiry and then not want to say anything to pre-empt the inquiry.


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Wonder if Cummings will be gone in the hour?


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The rumour is that he’ll be backed.

Nothing with this shower of charlatans surprises me. BoJo will bluff and bluster his way through it. Odds on that he’ll quote some Latin at some point.

If Boris is backing Cummings then I for one can't wait for PMQs this week.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

If Boris is backing Cummings then I for one can't wait for PMQs this week.

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There isn’t one...Parliament is off for the next two weeks

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

If Boris is backing Cummings then I for one can't wait for PMQs this week.

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Parliament is in recess, no PMQs for 2 weeks

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

You decided to interpret it that way, its not what was written.

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I think you've confused "lockdown" and "social distancing" across the majority of your recent posts. They're not the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

If Boris is backing Cummings then I for one can't wait for PMQs this week.

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If Johnson backs Cummings then I think that will be a significant moment in history.

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Originally Posted by greenlex

Same sentiment though. You’d consider doing something that could cost lives to be able to live yours as you want? How completely selfish. We will Surely all need to adapt in some form or other if we need to

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You’ve made my point brilliantly and thanks for being so honest in admitting it.

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Originally Posted by Future17

I think you've confused "lockdown" and "social distancing" across the majority of your recent posts. They're not the same thing.

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Definitely didn’t.

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Originally Posted by grunt

If Johnson backs Cummings then I think that will be a significant moment in history.

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Looks like it. Cummings must be briefing him with 4 hours worth of lies. Pity there no PMQs this week.

It will be very interesting to see what questions are asked by journalists during it, in particular Laura Kuenssberg

Johnson doing the presser means it will be a decisive step. Either he announces the departure of Cummings or he backs him. At this stage I am tempted to think he will back him.

The problem is that this story is already toxic. It is not the misdeed that ruins you in politics, it is the lying about it afterwards. And then further stuff coming out, and Cummings has made so many enemies in his own party that the knives will be out and the leaks will be springing out, if you will excuse the mixed metaphor.

I am reminded of a line in The Thick Of It, where the minister bemoans that the longer he delays his resignation adds time on to when he can be re-instated. Cummings should have been straight, said he did wrong and let BJ spin some nonsense about DC being vital in helping run the country in a national emergency blah blah. Story fades away in a couple of news cycles. Instead, there is this slow trickle of further evidence, witnesses etc. Now we are at the stage where half the Cabinet are tainted by association for defending him.

It has been spectacularly poor political management. By the same token, Cummings has caused so much resentment that he is reaping what he sowed.

I've been trying to post this Labour Party video here, but unsuccessfully

So here's the link to the tweet https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/...380638725?s=20

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYyFJ-IX...pg&name=medium

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

Where did I put a timeline on the easing of lockdown and the last paragraph I wholeheartedly agree with.

A drama queen, really? Attention seeking, thought provoking and challenging perhaps but I take virtual offence at the drama queen comment :)

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😂 Good Sunday afternoon reading.

I’m with you all the way with this. In 9 weeks we have adjusted and accepted the “new normal”. Many people terrified of walking past people, pulling kids to the edge of paths, won’t send kids back to school until it is “completely safe”, wouldn’t sit in a pub or cafe with your family even at your own “safe table”, wouldn’t go on an airplane, never go abroad again until completely safe. Walking about with masks on even if no one remotely close. Queuing up for 15 mins in the rain to buy some food at a supermarket.

It‘s just mental.

We have lost all sense of perspective with this. It is a mild cold and in many cases no symptoms at all for the vast, vast majority of people. And even if it is a stronger dose then the vast majority of those will make a full recovery.

For children and young people generally the % risk is tiny to be almost unregistered.

I don’t know what the solution is re the elderly and those more vulnerable but it certainly cannot be a life of social distancing at work, leisure, education for the rest of us.

I think we will see people readjusting back to the old normal with gradual easing of the fears that covid has caused.

Anyway. Golf this Friday 👍.

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Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye

At this stage I am tempted to think he will back him.

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By the same token, Cummings has caused so much resentment that he is reaping what he sowed.

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He'll not be reaping anything if he keeps his job, as you suggest?

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Originally Posted by Hibby Bairn

We have lost all sense of perspective with this. It is a mild cold and in many cases no symptoms at all for the vast, vast majority of people. And even if it is a stronger dose then the vast majority of those will make a full recovery.

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2,270 dead in Scotland. That's a pretty heartless take from you.

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Originally Posted by grunt

He'll not be reaping anything if he keeps his job, as you suggest?

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I meant the backlash, especially within his own party, is the consequence of his previous behaviour.

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

A lot of words but the main thing which you have missed, as have many who just to thump away at their keyboards, is that I am talking specifically about the absurdity of continuing social distancing forever. No end date, just keep two metres away from every man, women and child until the day we die.

It’s absolutely ludicrous and the fact that anyone is supportive of that needs to sit down and think about what that means to themselves and more importantly their kids who haven’t had the same opportunity as we have all had to meet, socialise, go on holiday, embrace, kiss, shake hands, flirt, try on new clothes and every single thing that makes us human beings.

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There are a further 2 pages that I haven't read after this post, so apologies if I am repeating something already said, but.


Who has said, apart from yourself and a few keyboard thumpers, that social distancing will continue forever?

It's like you have not watched any briefing, especially the most recent ones where a route out of lockdown has been made clear with a steady step by step easing which will, with hopefully a vaccine in the not too distant future meaning that we will look back and think, what a strange time, glad that's over.

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Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye

I meant the backlash, especially within his own party, is the consequence of his previous behaviour.

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Sorry, I misunderstood. Currently 17 Tory MPs have come out publicly to say Cummings should go.

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

OK, so you actually agree with me then.

We will need to accept the virus will take the lives of the most vulnerable and we return back to normal with no form of social distancing?

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At some point, yes I’d imagine so. With the proviso that ‘accepting’ deaths of the vulnerable is the wrong verb to use. A balance will be struck between freedoms and responsibilities, which is the razor on which all political relationships are balanced! You may have noticed the slow process of loosening the restrictions has already started across some parts of the globe. I’m watching Mainz v Red Bull as I type.

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Originally Posted by grunt

Sorry, I misunderstood. Currently 17 Tory MPs have come out publicly to say Cummings should go.

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No problem, I could have worded my point better. I think there will be no shortage of Tory MPs who dislike him. Their thinking will be calculating the risk of coming out publicly and then BJ backs him. I don’t get the sense that DC is particularly thick-skinned and he will want his revenge.

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

At some point, yes I’d imagine so. You may have noticed the slow process of loosening the restrictions has already started across some parts of the globe. I’m watching Mainz v Red Bull as I type.

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We might not have to accept any such thing. We might have a vaccine or effective treatment very soon.

Gutted for Mainz who are probably my 2nd German team but because Werder are first choice it's bitter sweet.

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Originally Posted by Hibby Bairn

We have lost all sense of perspective with this. It is a mild cold and in many cases no symptoms at all for the vast, vast majority of people. And even if it is a stronger dose then the vast majority of those will make a full recovery.

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Which one is it - is it no symptoms ‘for the vast, vast majority of people’ or just ‘many cases’? Big difference.

Your statement is a bit like the Anchorman ‘Sex Panther’ quote - “60% of the time it works every time”.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

We might not have to accept any such thing. We might have a vaccine or effective treatment very soon.

Gutted for Mainz who are probably my 2nd German team but because Werder are first choice it's bitter sweet.

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Looking at all the young players they’ve acquired, and the science and money they seem to have behind them, Red Bull winning by big scores could become the new normal :duck:

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Originally Posted by Captain Trips

Hopefully you have a monthly newsletter I can sign up for?

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Hopes dashed, but great idea. I'll be in touch. :aok: