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Originally Posted by tamig
Erm.... But it's not a separate banner ad?? It's deliberately designed to associate ALL those clubs being behind FOH. If that makes me a sensitive soul then you're spot on.....
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Originally Posted by tamig
Erm.... But it's not a separate banner ad?? It's deliberately designed to associate ALL those clubs being behind FOH. If that makes me a sensitive soul then you're spot on.....
At least out of the 07 crests ours was the one giving centre stage, promoting the fact that there is now only 1 BIG TEAM in the Lothians:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by The Governor
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Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
:top marks There's nothing innocent about the way the ad is constructed. It has been carefully structured by the EEN and FOH to deliberately associate Hibs with their campaign and the plight of Hearts. The implication that the EEN are somehow the "champions" of the Edinburgh clubs is also a nonsense. It not only ignores and/or fails to represent the views of the vast majority of Hibs fans on the Hearts fiasco (which are well known) but abuses it's privileged position by using the Hibs branding in this way. If Hibs have approved or been complicit in the construction of this ad, they're either very naive or misguided. If not, then Hibs should be looking for an explanation from the EEN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey09
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Originally Posted by Onion
Absolutely. I wasn't being cynical in my post or sensitive, I just think the EEN have been very devious and sneaky the way they have created this ad. I would love to hear an explanation from Hibs.
apparently hearts are being given 800k advance by the SPFl, anyone else heard anything on this?
It's on the rangers fans site
My view is that they've put all the other clubs badges above the statement 'Your paper - supporting football in Edinburgh and the Lothians.' and below the Evening News logo and so is separate from the rest of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey09
I can see how people would have differing opinions though.
They've probably stuck that in at the bottom in the hope that it would keep fans of other teams from moaning about the ad, but has backfired due to the way they've done it.
Is this maybe the money they've already been given for this season that was in the administrators report from the other day?Quote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
apparently it's money for completing the season and has been advanced to them. Can't find it written anywhere else and follow follow is hardly the source of all truths so taking it with a pinch of salt right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7062
Thats in BDO's report. Whether it was an advance or whether it was money that was due to them anyway, we don't know. I suspect the latter though.Quote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
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Originally Posted by 7062
Fair point. Although in my humble opinion a newspaper ad is designed to grab the attention of the reader, even if it's a fleeting glance. A glance at that would suggest, as I posted, that all the clubs on the banner are fully supporting FOH.
Why didnt he do that instead of going to Utd then ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey09
The boys club story is a classic distraction to deflect the possibility that some yams might realize their situation due to the recent 9 man reality check. It must be tempting for many of them to end their humiliation and shame so the maroon mind control from FOHBDO and the EEN will intensify.
:monkey::ostrich:
£835k (or thereabouts) has already been given to them, on condition that they complete the season. Everybody else will have had a similar advance, on the same terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
If they ever used that banner for anything else then maybe. I've never seen it before so can only assume it was specifically designed for that ad .Quote:
Originally Posted by 7062
If only. Then I'd be young(ish) free and single :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
It has been used before but I've only seen it in print.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Governor
It's a free ad for FoH. it's obviously been done for a purpise, and that purpose is meant to be solidarity with homfc, which makes me feel grubby.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7062
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Originally Posted by clerriehibs
Yip.... Makes my skin crawl. Correct me if I'm wrong, EEN give FOH a full page ad costing how much usually?? FOH make a donation to the Sick Kids Hospital?.
And here we go.....
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...bers-1-3297960
... So we can expect a free full page ad for all of the other clubs featured at the bottom of FOH 's then?
Their attitude of moral superiority is sickening. Apparently its better to not pay creditors than have someone offer to do it for you and save your club. How sickening are they?
P.s. nice to see them abuse Sergey: thats a definite sign he's getting to them. :-)
Grand thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Another supposedly good news story after their worst result in the season last weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLake
It's all about timing :greengrin
They could have 10k people pledging but it doesn't matter.. 4 issues...
1 - they are still struggling and the shares remain frozen = no change till April (very close to end of the season..squeaky bum time).
2 - The lack of FOH business plan and risk involved is massive - even the sane yams have doubts plus they will still be in debt next year - just a new and smaller debt if they get through this.:greengrin
3 - What is plan B if the FOH plan falls short? FOH 2 ? If FOH fails the trust and fans faith will be lost - but they haven't got much choice.
4 - The stadium - it's a death trap and they can't afford to fix it - still a massive problem.
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Originally Posted by hibees 7062
Because he's a........ :fibber: Oops..... Sorry RUDI.....
The banner bit about the lothians clubs is from the EEN saying they support them. Nowt to do with **** but a bit ambiguous to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Governor
One thing I've just thought of that made me giggle inside.
The yams are going on about debt free, well apart from all the stuff around actually buying the club and how that is so much less than the £30/75 million debt they've shed.
When/if they ever do get round to paying it off it will be a new thing for them as they never paid knack all in the past with all that forgiveness/swap stuff.
I think they genuinely believe that once the money goes to Lithuania that they've cleared their debts. The majority will cancel their DD's thinking there's an actual owner in the background who will now look after things. It's like buying a flat in a stair. What do you mean I've got roof repairs I'm on the ground floor.......:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
I'm sure the sick kids will publicise donatorsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mikey09
They cheated everyone else and it will be just a natural step to cheat among themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by O'Rourke3
And it won't be the first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLake
Maybe a full page ad in the ENN apologising to the millions of Uk taxpayers , charities, pensioners, Lithuanians, local government bodies, small businesses and other clubs for the damage their disgusting little club has caused ? And they can skip the "donation" too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
EEN is treating and portraying HOMFC like it was an innocent VICTIM of financial misfortune, when it was in FACT the perpetrator and beneficiary.
They weren't shy in using the Hibs badge when GOC was up in court. Front page and he didn't even play for us at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
The EEN are just promoting a Ponzi Scheme where individuals will get burned. Can't wait to see the fall-out once the whole thing collapses in on itself :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenStar
Bit like a burglar knocking on your door..."Excuse me sir, but I'm a feckless, workshy ned in need of some ready cash, kindly step aside while I nick your telly"Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
"You poor unfortunate victim of an uncaring society. Would you like the keys of my car to help you carry away your ill gotten goods?"
"God bless you guvnor. See you in court"
They're quite within their rights to use the logos and other branding for news articles, without Hibs permission. That's media privilege. They don't have the right to use it in advertising or the promotion of "causes" or appeals for companies that have nothing to do with Hibs. That's abuse of their position, unless Hibs have agreed to it :cbQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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Originally Posted by Onion
CORRECT. Barry Anderson even advertising the advert in his non story! Anyway. Off to work to pay my way in the world..... :wink:
I hope Hibs would not agree to our club crest being displayed on their begging flyer beside their tainted and tarnished crest - a permanent symbol of football cheating in Edinburgh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
Well if that's your interpretation good on you. Quite frankly, if the shoe was on the other foot, it's the kind of reaction I'd fully expect from them. I think we're better than that to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Governor
Spoken to a few saner jambos this week and it was not lost on them that they appreciated the stadium at Easter Road
It brought home the scale of the work and the scale of the spending they'll need to make in order to just maintain the death trap stand...let alone replace it.
And that we spent our money from OConnor, Fletcher, Brown etc on the infrastructure whilst paying taxes.
No surprise for Hearts to have a poncey schemeQuote:
Originally Posted by Onion
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Originally Posted by Springbank
Seriously? I haven't heard a yam compliment it yet. In fact, I rarely hear anyone saying much positive about ER, other than Hibs fans (and not even all of them - some appear to want a 14k affair or so). That's all particularly galling, when the media fawn over the "special" atmosphere at swynecastle.
Swyney has crap views.
It looks crap.
It's a deathtrap.
It's an all round crap stadium, and I wish the media would ****ING SAY SO!
They won't risk offending the few remaining readers (or picture lookers).Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/artic...tration/553631
Not like AWeb to just regurgitate a press release. :rolleyes:
Duly posted a comment :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by AltheHibby
And duly thanked!:greengrin
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Originally Posted by AltheHibby
Sounds like a rubber stamp job to me.
Ive never heard any jambos compliment the stadium or the training centre, in fact they even have a hatred for the Proclaimers :rolleyes:........and the simple reason being.............the clowns cant think for themselves, a few of the so called bigger posters make their feelings known and they follow like wee sheep. oh and on the subject of their bigger posters....I have a cousin who apparantly was one of their BIGGER known hard man casuals......i swear he couldnt fight sleep.........two faced walter mittys the lot of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
It's most definitely a minority view over the road but the ones I spoke to are involved in development n construction & have a fairly clear view on how the existing Tynecastle stands (all 4 of them) will be costly structures to maintain.
Saturday was the first time they been in the home end at er (one in the east one in the west upper) and they could at least appreciate "it's a really good facility"
A minority view right now, but one that i think will grow quickly once foh take on responsibility for the Tynie death trap
It's not just the main stand that needs replacing. The other three are coming to an end soon also.
They'll have to sell tynie. That'll be part of the plan foh aren't talking about.
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Originally Posted by Waxy
I wonder if the steepness of the three " new " stands will become an issue. I am sure there are regs. covering this and should a fall actually injure someone there could be problems for them.
Remember the guy at a Derby a bit back did the tumble and ended on the track. :greengrin
this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
http://www.scotsman.com/news/video-h...airs-1-2724337
Hearts had casuals ? :cbQuote:
Originally Posted by hibbymick
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Originally Posted by Waxy
They were the ones in the designer cardigansQuote:
Originally Posted by Stax
Is Matalan considered by them to be a designer?Quote:
Originally Posted by jodjam
Give it time, the transition from optimist to pessimist is a slow process. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by QMU-1875
Getting knocked out the cup is absolutely no excuse for this thread being banished to the second page. Almost blasphemous.
I always remember the Sunday Post undercover report on casuals in 1985 I think it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
"Hearts casuals are a bit of a mystery, they are the worst dressed in Scotland"
The jambo clowns at my school (Tynecastle) wore ennese tracksuits and some other fake brand that was supposed to be like Fila
That was the savile range of clothing at the time. Fila up!Quote:
Originally Posted by joe breezy
Aye, they wore it with Sergio TeenieQuote:
Originally Posted by jodjam
Spaedo trunks for their weekly gathering in the bairns pool at The Commy too!Quote:
Originally Posted by joe breezy
Floodlights are on at Meadowbank. Anyone know who the yams are playing?
Oops sorry, that's next year!
Feel we've had our eye of the ball a little by pathetically obsessing about our own team. Sometimes I think that there are people on this board who care more about Hibs than the demise of Hearts. Well I'm moving the Gorgie boys right back up the table.
:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Good attitude.
spot on Bob.lest we forget.:aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
There's not much to talk about really. It's just a waiting game now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Once the meetings in Lithuania are done and dusted and the rubber stamp is applied they'll have got away with it.
The one drawback of course being that the meetings still aren't in place and the rubber stamp is gathering dust :wink:
It's like de ja vu all over again. Or maybe that should be "Portsmouth" all over again :Romanov:
All the good assets from Ukio Bankas have been moved to another bank which looks like it will make profits from the deal.
"Sialiu Bankas AB, the only publicly traded bank in the Baltic states, rose to a 30-month high on speculation a purchase of bankrupt Ukio Bankas AB assets last year will help boost profit."
The duff properties (like HMFC and Rottingcastle) must have been kept at the "bad bank" where I doubt there is much motivation to do anything hasty.
Bad form from Hearts/BDO here. I'd have liked to have seen a meeting that was 'scheduled for February' set up and cancelled before the one that is 'scheduled for March.'Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
I still await the news that Billy Brown has developed a major cocaine habit and snorted his way through the ICT semi cash, or something of that order, to spice things up a bit.
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Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Or may'be someone disappearing to the Cayman Islands with all the FoH funds that have been amassed.
That is, after all the Yam way ! :greengrin
I like that DBS,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Talking of Portsmouth their shares are still.....fozen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
That is my understanding and I predict they will not be out of first gear anytime soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLake
He is in the Brig nursing a pint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
I think the thing about last weeks '8 to 10 weeks', was that it gives them another month over the previous weeks '6 to 8 weeks' to think up another excuse for a further 'x to x weeks'....but keep the pledges rolling in 'cos it's your chance to #createhistory....eventuallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
I'm wondering if anyone at BDO or FoH have noticed the irony of their '#createhistory' hashtag and the constant rewriting of how many weeks until they get the shares, exit administration...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
Do they have a Mr W. Smith working in their Ministry of Truth?
Whenever I read statements like this, my mind inexplicably wanders to that huge creditors list and all the local businesses, schools, hospitals and charities they have stiffed. Shameless and proud of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alf
Shart and Hole of Edinburgh mair like...
Just back from a two night stay in a Crerar hotel near Leeds. They have their own draught lager called 'Heart And Soul' It was p1sh.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Green Goblin
To that, it is easy to say "this".Quote:
Originally Posted by The Green Goblin
I can't see the three "new" stands being any sort of issue for them. Our two ends were built around the same time, as were so many other similar stands in the UK. Surely all these structures must have a life expectancy greater than 20 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
We've just built a stand with the same gradient as the newer ones at tynecastle and our upper tiers are the same. I personally hold the opinion that such gradients are a death trap, especially when standing is allowed in seated areas but they are being built and safety certificates are being issued.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
The only big problem hearts have is that their new stand has to be a main one with all the bells and whistles. They can't complete their ground with another wheatfield.
Stands like our main one aren't cheap, especially if you fall into the "junk" category and they can't owe it to themselves this time.
A 5-1 hand sign won't cut it when you're trying to convince legitimate businesses that they should lend you money.
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Originally Posted by peter douglas
Are you sure about the gradients, the plans are off the Council planning web site now, so can't check. Their stands certainly look steeper but could just be an optical illusion.
A bit like owing the money to themselves ! :greengrin
But more importantly - are they the same height?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
I seem to remember at the time someone saying that the Tynecastle stands had been built with a lower spec and that they were expected to have a shorter lifespan than the ones at ER. They cost a lot less than our stands iirc.Quote:
Originally Posted by peter douglas
You know you don't have to quote every post in the thread and reply to it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
:agree: Especially the bit at part 9 re making the stadium smaller, it all went downhill for him from there, nae way would the yammish be able to accept his failure to use the word big.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
The rest is pretty much a self fulfilling prophecy, just about everything he says is still an issue for them today, the debt grew and they are now in an even worse place.
That main stand can't have much longer left in it if it was on its last legs in 2003. It's amazing that they've had a further decade out of it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
The document is a decent piece of financial planning. No wonder they hated Robinson!
I was mates with the man (who was a jambo) that supplied the steel. As a fan he was unhappy about the quality requested. It was legal and safe but no great longevity. Interestingly he was shocked at his first visit to Hampden around the same time as they clearly used even worse quality....Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonewall
Cutting corners on construction is what all Big Teams do, obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonewall
I do thank you. I never quoted all the 34,488 quotes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage East
I merely give my opinion to a few points which you, as an individual, can read or ignore.
Just bumped in to Rudi, then Tom Farmer in the same place just now, very strange.
He's not signing for us, is he?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenArmyyy!
Skacels nose is so big the 2 of them could be miles apart and you'd still be able to bump in to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenArmyyy!
Levering tyres off with his proboscis? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenArmyyy!
Wonder why Farmer was at the job centre?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenArmyyy!
Which one :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenArmyyy!
http://www.shopletchworth.com/files/...age/Greggs.JPG
Aye and he's playing for nowt :fibber:Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
They weren't together, just a coincidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Did give him my honest opinion of how I view him as a footballer and a person :)
I saw Gonzo in George street yesterday with his bird , they were both looking a bit thin especially her ( i've seen mair meat on a butchers pencil ). Mind you if you are unemployed like the great conko getting a decent scran must be difficult !.
I prefer this hashtag for the ragtags in eh11
Watch the FoH #repeathistory
I wouldn't lend them a dime
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Originally Posted by Stonewall
Thats Big Team thinking ahead.
Even years ago they could see they were only going to be needing the stadium until around this time, so why spend anymore when there was Gordon Petric and the likes to be signed on stupid wages.
Big Team thinking, we just dont get it.
:cb