:agree: Just add up the cost of the damage and BDO just need to make the cheque oot tae Rod Petrie and it`ll be gratefully accepted...Quote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
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:agree: Just add up the cost of the damage and BDO just need to make the cheque oot tae Rod Petrie and it`ll be gratefully accepted...Quote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
Hearts will get an extra 20% of yesterday's gate money for providing Tynecastle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
So they actually gave money to Hibs for today's game? Very generous of them to put money in Petrie's coffers :wink:
Either way, they're not exactly going to make a lot of money out of this weekend.
So 20% goes to the team providing the stadium? So that's 20% to Hearts and 20% to Hibs leaving 60% split 4 ways which is 15% each which means Hibs got more from the semi than Aberdeen? That can't be right surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Hopefully todays demorilising defeat is the last straw for some yams and a few more DD's are cancelled. Furthermore, kinda hoping the tramps have caused ER damage again so we can have a nice fat bill heading their way.
Anyone hear anything about what happened regarding the broken seats fin the away end form the last derby btw?
.....and their hospitality packages have hit the skids.
Surely a mistake Sergie !?!?!?
I assume you meant, their hospitality packages give you the skids. :cb
When a team is drawn at home, say in the 4th round, the first 20% is given to the host team. The remainder is then split between both. That's where I got the 20% figure from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
It may not be the case for the semi although I wouldn't have thought there would be a big difference. Why would there be?
Here is the Scottish Cup rule:
The receipts from the Semi-Final matches in the Competition shall be pooled and
shall be deemed to include monies received from all admission charges to the
matches, radio and television fees, and any sums in respect of advertising within the
stadium specially for the occasion.
The Association shall retain 10% of the balance, after payment of the expenses of
the two matches and the clubs’ guarantees.
The remainder, after payment of the rental for the use of a ground or grounds, the
scale of which shall be determined by the Board, shall be divided, equally, among the
four clubs.
Have a trawl through this, page 209 et seq.
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resource...pCompRules.pdf
In fact, I've just found The Rules of the Scottish Professional Football League which, helpfully, covers all competitions under its umbrella, including the League Cup itself.
It states:
In each tie in the Semi-Final Round of the Competition, after paying match expenses, 5% of the net receipts will be retained by the League and 20% of the remaining balance will be deducted and paid as ground rent to the respective Clubs which provided the neutral venues.
The remaining receipts from both ties shall be pooled and divided equally among the four competing Clubs.
Page 119 para 8.5 http://spfl.co.uk/docs/067_324__ther...1388495541.pdf
So, after 5% is skimmed off for the SPFL, 20% of the pooled receipts are paid to the 2 host clubs. The remaining 75% is split between the competitors.
I thought Hearts would get 20% from yesterday at Tynecastle and we'd get 20% from today, but instead, we share 20% from both days. That's better for Hibs.
I think!
So 10% to each club thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I remember saying this game should have been played at Tannadice, but was lambasted for saying so as the crowd would exceed that grounds capacity. :faf:
It'd only be 20% of the receipts for the actual game at ER or Swiney that would go to the host club - leaving around 80% of the total receipts to be split between the 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Edit - pathead beat me to that!
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
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Originally Posted by PatHead
Yes, 10% of both gates, which is more or less equal to 20% of one gate. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by hibbybob
Still we got paid rent for the use of our stadium tae watch them getting papped there by 9 men, plus the crowd wouldnae have looked so ridiculously small in a smaller stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
So cheers for the dosh and the entertainment yam fuds. :aok:
Still a Big team though, :faf:
Either way, we're quids in and the ****bos are oot! :flag:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Is that estimate inclusive of V.A.T. ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
They have I bought one at half price on Friday. My mate the Jambo is going to watch us relegate them with style at Tynie for his birthday. Oh the irony.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbibri
That sounds like Yamanomics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Apart from the little fact that it's fundamentally correct! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
The Hibs are having a party, the hearts are out the cupS (and out of business soon)
:-)
Thought that boy from.west ham they made such a fuss about getting looked utter gash.
There's a few of them that fall into that category, the lad Carrick, mchuddy, the ozzy guy that's only there cos his brother was there a year or so ago and callum tapping. Awful awful footballers and that's not just because they're young, they genuinely are just *****.
In summary (if I've picked this up right) ...
Total Receipts
- expenses (police, stewards, etc.?)
5% - SPFL
10% - Hibs
18.75% - Inverness
18.75% - Aberdeen
18.75% - St Johnstone
28.75% - Hearts (less stadium damage costs)
There would have been a massive stream of something, that's for sure :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
http://www.margueritecie.com/urine2.jpg
As they've known that Hearts were going to be in the semi for a while, would BDO not possibly have already factored in those receipts to their survival calculations? And -pushing it here- possibly bargaining for a near full house, rather than the paltry attendance at ER today?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Tears of pride? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by FranckSuzy
or was Golden Gary involved :greengrin
Has the venue for the final been decided yet ?
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Originally Posted by Hibbibri
Less £20 for Rudi's freebie :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
Yes, that's how I calculate it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
I have shouted it before and no doubt will do so again but here goes..........................TICK TOCK
I think I heard on the BBC commentary that the venue has still to be decided.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
As an aside - how much in £££'s did that defeat cost the Yams today?
If the final against went to Ibrox you are looking at round 50,000 of a gate x £25 = £1.25 million to he shared by both teams and SFA/SFPLQuote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
Lets say a min of £400,000 each club
If it was a Parkhead there would be 10,000 more at £25
So in summary, a helluva lot
Do we really think ICT vs Aberdeen is going to sell 50,000?Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Might explain the desperate lengths they went to trying to sign Skacel. Not so much to make the final, but to increase the gate at the semi final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Plus the prize money - The winners get £110k - runners-up £82k and the beaten semi's get £47.5kQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Pleasing
No chance. it will be about the 30,000 with the vast majority dressed ovine. edit- I see the question was if the yamtards had reached the final. Yes they would fill Ibrox for a sheep v hearts final and yes I meant ovine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Do you mean ovine?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
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Originally Posted by Sergey
Near/Sell out at Parkhead/Ibrox, plus the usual income generated from being in a final = £0.5M each
Nothing like it, but Hearts v Aberdeen would not have been too far short of capacity, now that the sheep are on the marchQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Very pleasingQuote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
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Originally Posted by Sergey
Hardy har. Pleasing indeed
More than they can afford to loseQuote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
I did a wee google on that and ended up on one of the tramps threads from this time last year. Someone on there said that in 2008 the actual prizes were £110k for the winners and £82k for runners-up, then there's ticket split and tv money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
IIRC, I think we made about £1-1.5M from our 2007 run, but that was for the whole comp.
An interesting aside on the thread was one of the comments from the deluded ones...
"Having both cups in trophy room PRICELESS,girfuy lochend tramps"
How did that work out for ye ya gormless tw@t? :lolyam:
Edit
Oops! Missed a page of comments and didn't realize the question had been answered
Was today the day that their luck finally ran out ? After so many breaks, lucky wins and successful penalty shoot outs - they lose a 94th minutes equaliser, fail to be 9 men and then lose on penalties. Such bad luck. :greengrin
The whole crumbling, stinking edifice is surely about to crumble now.
Yep :agree: Going through to the final would have given them a desperately needed cash wind fall. Hopefully after today a few more direct debits are cancelled in frustration causing an even further financial loss. I can see today being the last straw for a few hearts guys, I actually know a hearts fan who has considered cancelling his direct debits to FoH as he's simply getting fed up with how things are going.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
ooooh happy daaays! GIRFUY
Bryan Jackson will be a busy man again this week you'd imagine. Time to get rid of more maroon dead weed.
well said. Sweet sweet Sunday. 2/2/14. Coat hanger mouth day for the jumbos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seveno
This is a cracker - this has to be a Hibby. Brilliant
Financially Hearts will be fine. We are not in some ridiculous situation where a number of baking sales are trying to dent.a 30m hole. Should we need funds the amounts involved will be achieved.
Yes it would ave been great to have the cup final income but there it is. Relying on anything in football is pointless, esp when the JTS are involved
Edited by Riccarton3, Today, 18:08.
Fact- Hearts manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against 9 man ICT to go out of league cup and miss out on much needed cash
Barry- Brave Hearts youngsters lose out to physical ICT side whilst getting cash windfall from cup run. Brave Hearts youngsters will not be distracted from relegation battle by little cup final.
naming yourself after the players who tried to tell them they were being run by a bampot must be a bit of a clueQuote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Evidence of Stevenson bottling it. Although it looks like that might have been lockes judging by the colour?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir
Wonder if Locke is lying on the ground in this photo??Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
He was a busy man this morning, he spent all morning doing his hair before heading to easter road, but forgot to take it with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir
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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
I posted similar some time ago but I really think its a bit of both with the main priority reaching the final & the financial windfall that would have brought. Don't forget the final's only 6 weeks away in the middle of March, the month in which BDO say they'll probably run out of money. The sale of King may have bought a little time but not enough. Oh, & by the way, in those 6 weeks Yams have only 1 home game, vs Celtc where there will be no home walk ups!! They were due to play Dons at home day before LC final!!! I don't see Dons looking to bring that game forward! Most pleasing!
im sure he'll manage a 'Rooney' once his firm rape the Jumbos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
They rearrange a fixture so Stevenson can play in the semi. He's on the bench, gives the ball away for ICT equaliser & doesn't take a pen!!! Chicken Karma!! :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
250 grand a week without doing anything? Check ! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir
Attachment 11934Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir
Should have been retaken if he scored, 2 Jambos in the "D"Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir
That was his first free kick which he scoredQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
He did score in that pic ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Edit: too late, was the first though :)
Looks like it's in the penalty box?Quote:
Originally Posted by oconnors_strip
That's the free kick that took a wicked deflection into opposite corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
I thought I'd be loving this tonight. Instead, I just feel manky and pissed off. I've spent too long on sickbag, initially to pish myself at them, but I've just got more and more annoyed at the low-lives, for getting even this far in the league cup, the fact they haven't been dealt with properly yet by the authorities, and the mere fact that the gimps still exist.
Outstanding Bajillions. :top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Makes sense now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Lucozade Rage! :lolyam::lolyam::lolyam::lolyam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
:thumbsup:
Just out of shot on the bottom picture is a euphoric Gary Locke lying down on the ground, gladly accepting the golden stream of pish into his slavering mouth.
You have to laugh.........:greengrin
JKB Meltdown (@JKBmeltdown)
02/02/2014 21:17
the grown man telling a ICT fan (who was about 10) that he was going to stick his flag-pole up his arse was way out of order
:greengrin
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Seriously ? . Are you suggesting two 10 per cents are "fundamentally more or less" the same as 20% ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
stop itQuote:
Originally Posted by FranckSuzy
We bean counters only count when the eggs are hatched not when they are laid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
It is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seveno
[QUOTE=Spike Mandela;3895587]You have to laugh.........:greengrin I am.
After days like this, a small part of me actually wants this circus to continue for years to come.
It's time, surely!..... :wink:
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It may be sooner than anyone thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeithenHibby
Hopefully Bajillions will have some information later today once he speaks with BJ
Can't see it being imminent, TBH. The cash they had in their last public projection, plus the money from the King transfer (depending on when it is actually paid), should be enough for a month or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
The only thing that might change that timescale, IMO, would be if BDO have decided that they have no hope of obtaining the UBIG shares.
Forgive me if you've already answered this one, but you've said in the past that BDO have to ensure that the business is a 'going concern' (or something like that). Do they have to keep going until the money runs out or might they, at some point, have to accept that there is no realistic prospect of the club surviving in its current state, and throw in the towel?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
If they come to the conclusion that it's the latter (for example, they have cast-iron evidence that the shares won't be released until 2015) then they are duty-bound to liquidate. However, if that evidence doesn't exist, they would proceed until the cash is gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
@BBCBMcLauchlin: BDO agree deal for share purchase from Hearts parent company UBIG. Deal to be concluded late March. More soon#bbcsportscot
Ta.:aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
And here is the latest spin to try and keep the gullible Jambos on side. They will lap it up without realising that the shares are still frozen.Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
So is that the big Thaw then??Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Old news - Barry Anderson reported this a week or so back. Having a verbal agreement and having a deal concluded and ratified through the courts in Lithuania isn't quite the same thing, certainly in legal terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
They agreed that already, shares are still frozen.
So this is spin because they got papped out the wee cup. Season is over so give the poor jambos something to cling onto?? Like a wee comfort blanket?
Nice wee spin on an old story the morning after a hammer blow result.Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Funny how the "Good News" always seems to appear via their media muppets when they have the possibility of punters giving up the cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Bazza a bit late with the news:
@BarryAnderson_8: Agreement to transfer UBIG shares in #Hearts to Foundation of Hearts is finalised. Hearts can begin process of exiting administration. #HMFC
So they can "begin" the process. As Sergey says, so what. They key thing that Bazza can't grasp is how long it will take.
Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_8 1m
Agreement to transfer UBIG shares in #Hearts to Foundation of Hearts is finalised. Hearts can begin process of exiting administration. #HMFC
Has anyone noticed that every month they come out with pish like this, the only difference is that they add another month to the conclusion date. So it's the end of March now is it? I will stick that one in my diary and delete the entry for the end of February.Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
@BarryAnderson_8: Foundation of Hearts should have full control of #HMFC by end of April. Deal to get UBIG shares done. More on http://t.co/yS1sZ7JQcH soon.
Once foh take control the fun will really start. If you think they look like amateur hour just now, wait till these guys take over. :agree:
Oh ffs it's the end of April now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zondervan
So we're led to believe they're winning the battle, now going into injury time.... surely they can't fluck it up now :greengrin
Funny how we're getting all this this morning eh. Would be better for them if it was true!
As night follows day, an on field calamity offset by positive PR in the MSM to ensure the maroon goons keep emptying their bairn's piggy banks.
Going to be a long 2 weeks for these losers with no game next weekend, no more revenue and plenty time to reflect on their latest Easter Road collapse. Expect the spin merchants to be busy :)
The cost of blazers alone is going to be detrimental to the football side.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Is it just me or have "good news" stories always appeared in the press just after a bad day for HMFC? This has obviously happened a lot more in recent years but it seems to have been a long standing trait of HMFC going back further than the financial circus era of the last couple of years and the Vlad era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zondervan
Is this evidence of David Southern or whoever giving permission for certain journalists to say certain things at certain times?
But everybody knows Amateur Hour Goes On And On................................Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Jambo's can all high five each other and do scarf twirls.
So when do they play their next game in the cup?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion