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Originally Posted by Cataplana
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Yes it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
It is, until the law is formedQuote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
And even once this Bill becomes law, the law could be changed again if Bojo wins an election on 15 Oct to allow us to crash out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
How is he going to call that election without a two thirds majority?Quote:
Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby
Not getting the 2/3 majority tonight is largely irrelevant. It's coming sooner rather than later. Parliamentary arithmetic dictates this. And if he wins a majority there is nothing to stop him changing the law and crashing us out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
He will win a majority and the lib dems will give themselves a pat on the back behind closed doors.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby
Do you mean it will come after a vote of no confidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby
There was never a solution out there. The fact that three and a half years down the line Parliament is no closer to finding one makes that clear. But to claim the electorate was too dim-witted to understand what they were voting for is a tired old cliche.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Parliament is not trying to mitigate anything. It has descended into an arena whereby a host of factions are manoeuvring their own narrow political agendas into position.
If I could change history so that the Brexit referendum never took place I would. Brexit has become such an mind-numbing presence in our day-to-day lives that it's hard to remember what things were like without it. The prospect of our parliamentarians ensuring we're subjected to yet another meaningless delay makes me despair of them. No deal is, as many of them seem to forget, the default option under the Withdrawal Agreement (which a thumping majority of them voted for) and for all their posturing I think those seeking to delay yet again would be surprised by how many of the electorate would hail a no deal exit simply to bring an end to this seemingly endless chaos.
Channel 4 reporting that a procedural oversight in relation to the Kinnock amendment may have "torpedoed" the entire bill to prevent no deal.
When asked in simple terms what that could mean the Journalist from Channel 4 says "this could be a very significant victory for the government."
Any chance of VAR?Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
It appears to have gone through because no teller for the other side could be found (whatever that means), so apparently the May deal can now be brought back for another vote! After the endless flak she took for her deal (in particular from the weasel Corbyn) the irony will surely not be lost on even the humourless Maybot that Labour have brought it back from the dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
Parliament. Shambles.
Last time I saw this guy he was in the beanoQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
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Apparently the government purposely did not provide a teller to muddy the waters with the bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
This whole thing , when you also consider what is happening in the Lords with the 100+ amendments added to achieve nothing but waste time , just shows what an absolute ****show our democracy has become.
Boris now effectively begging Corbyn to give him an election to get him out of this mess.
Corbyn has him exactly where he wants him now.
You can have a change in government without an election.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby
Sit down now Blackford.
Had Boris burying his head in a sulk.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Swinson's accent...'kin hell...
Is it wrong that I'm starting to like Anna Soubry?
You mean the Torys have made a complete mess of this from start to where we are now?Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
With more mess to come!
Jess Phillips. spot on!
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Plain speaking and heartfelt from someone who is obviously an 'ordinary' personQuote:
Originally Posted by Just Jimmy
:top marks
I thought most of the opposition speakers were excellent tonight. As an active trade-unionist in the late 70s and early 80s, I rarely agreed with Kenneth Clarke, but over the past few months, I’ve really admired his strong stand for Parliamentary democracy. He deserved his name check from Ian Blackford as a sensible replacement for Dominic Cummings as PM adviser.
Fantastic speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Jimmy
No!Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Absolutely superb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Jimmy
Kind of lacks gravitas.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Thank f*** that's over. Kick him in the baws now so I can go to bed happier
Why does parliament go through the charade of 'debate' prior to votes where every MP already knows which way they're voting? Has any MP ever changed their mind during these sessions? The only time I can think of recently where that might have happened was when Hilary Benn gave his backing to the Syria air strikes but in days like today when we've already been told by the media which way the votes are going it seems little more than a chance for MPs to do a bit of showboating.
Few years ago Ian Blackford was a regular poster on the Bounce, never thought I'd see him eventually sticking the boot into Boris in the HoCs :greengrin