Trump warns evangelical leaders they won't be able to say "Merry Christmas" anymore if Democrats win in the midterms.
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Trump warns evangelical leaders they won't be able to say "Merry Christmas" anymore if Democrats win in the midterms.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45340275
People believe this!!! What is happening to this world!?!?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
Just watching his live press conference from New York. Comedy pure.
This nutter will be around for another two years or so.
If he gets re-elected America will be shown to be full of very stupid people.
Have seen his latest press conferences, he is unbelievably arrogant and detached from reality. It's like Will Ferral had got a blond wig and has made a Ron Burgundy for the whitehouse. His comment about China respecting him and his brain? WTF?
I watched the whole press conference and noticed his statement about the Kurds has gone completely under the radar. I'm surprised that Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria haven't gone ballistic.
Hopefully they've all realised he's a complete tool that's not to be taken seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
A tool with a really big brain, mind.
I’m just back from the states and sadly lots are still backing him because their economy is growing and unemployment is down. The ones I spoke to all claim it’s down to his “America First” policy. The failure of ordinary Americans to look beyond their own pocket is not surprising. They genuinely don’t care that Trump is regarded a fool across the world as long as the dollars keep coming their way.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Why should they care? Economy booming, unemployment at historically low levels, tackling countries who have ripped off the US for years, jobs coming back to industries long presumed dead, I wouldn't give a **** either what those in Europe thought given the economic performance across the continent.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucky
You almost sound down that the economy is growing and employment increasing? That's good thing is it not?Quote:
Originally Posted by lucky
Do you really think a factory worker in West Virginia cares how Trump is viewed by people in other countries? Or do they care they have better job prospects and feel better off than 2 years ago.
I bet I know what they care about more.
That's onĺy if you believe Trump is responsible for the upturn in economic growth. However the upturn started under Obama and Trump is riding the wake of policy set in place by the democrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
Does the factory worker care?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
At the latest next time he's stood in front of a ballot box.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
Only thing I’m down about is the prospect that Trump will get elected again. The trade wars he’s launched has given their economy a short term boost but over time it will increase inflation and as result slow down consumer spending leading to higher unemployment rates.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
Is the answer, "high calorie foods and tasteless lager?"Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
He'll care plenty when Trump starts to force wages down, and sends in the National Guard to deal with any protests.
Do you think you are better than them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chic Murray
Have a word mate, and read the second part of my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
I think you added that as I quoted your post, might be wrong though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chic Murray
But still your comment comes across as sneering at them and an attitude of your better than them.
Right, say I do think I'm better than them (which I don't) what difference does that make?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
I see you still haven't responded to my real point.
Does the factory worker care whether Democratic or Republican policies are responsible for improved conditions/prospects? Of course they do. Why wouldn't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
We will see if the national guard on are on the streets of West Virginia anytime soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chic Murray
Very snobbish attitude, unless your in their situation who are you to tell them who to vote for? Came across as stupid Americans, more interested in fast food and cheap beer. A sweeping generalisation.
You want salt and sauce with that chip on your shoulder?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
Sorry if that's how it came across to you. If I told you that middle class Americans also are interested in fast food and tasteless beer, would you be happier?
If you read it again, I didn't tell anybody who to vote for, I speculated on the possible outcome of a second term for Trump.
I didn't say anything about the price of beer, either. I think you are the one with prejudice, to be honest.
Inverted snobbery is the worst kind, because not only do you detest people for what they are, but you hold yourself and everyone else back.
Given that you were the one querying whether "factory workers" care, I find it a bit ironic for you to be accusing others of having a snobbish attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
What I said is I don't think they care that Trump is viewed as a fool abroad. Do you think that they care what people in the UK think of him, doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
Seems like a sweeping generalisation to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
I know a lot of British voters care greatly how our leaders and country is viewed abroad. Particularly as in this ever globalised world, our nations foreign policy can have have great impacts at home.
Why do you think American's would not care the same? Do you think they are more self-centered and insular than British voters? not as as sophisticated?
You shouldn't look down your nose at factory workers from West Virginia, they are probably no more or less sophisticated voters than anywhere else in the world.
Except that isn't what you said. You responded to this post:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
With this statement:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
It may not have been your intention to suggest factory workers may not care about why there has been economic upturn, but that is exactly how it reads.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
Anyway, in answer to your restated question, I would imagine a lot of factory workers care about how their President is viewed. It may not be as important to them as their own financial bottom line, but that doesn't mean they don't care.
The New York Times has printed a 'bombshell' story of Trump's tax fraud, going back decades. Only thing is a number of investigative journalists, notably David Cay Johnston, have been trying to bring this issue to public attention for years. Now the NYT prints it on the front page and everyone is amazed? Trump himself has boasted of not paying taxes, claiming that makes him 'smart'. His corruption in business over the years is legendary, but now everyone has their eyes opened suddenly? His supporters won't care anyway; they'll shout fake news and ignore the latest scandal.
https://youtu.be/kX7OmK8I-v0
Trump's tax and spend: evade taxes and spend his dad's money.
https://youtu.be/RyYn1c5CVy4
If they voted for a man who used racism and homophobia as his USP, I can't see this bothering them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Poor old Nixon must be wondering where he went wrong.
Has now had a pop at Prof. Ford's testimony a couple of days after calling it compelling.
He's not even trying to maintain a front of consistency.