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09-08-2019, 03:52 PM
Heisenberg

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Originally Posted by 90+2

Would Hecky have wanted Allan had he had not agreed a deal? It would be interesting to know deep down if so.

I’ve seen a couple say this now. Why does it actually matter? He’s here and Heckingbottom has been absolutely full of praise for him, while also saying he needs to improve in some areas. He’s played regularly in pre season and started our first league game.
09-08-2019, 03:52 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by MikeyS

We arent crying out for one according to PH, I've heard him say numerous times he wants his midfielders to be attacking & defensive in their play. I dont think we will see anyone come in that is just going to sit in front of the back four. I do think we will get 1 more after Middleton though.

Do you personally think that’s enough? So far not enough is being done to protect the back line, even St Mirren exploited it numerous times with us having one up top, on the other hand we aren’t creating enough chances and playing it out wide, looking for our lb and rb to help out and then leaving glaring space.
09-08-2019, 03:53 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

I’ve seen a couple say this now. Why does it actually matter? He’s here and Heckingbottom has been absolutely full of praise for him, while also saying he needs to improve in some areas. He’s played regularly in pre season and started our first league game.

He’s been sub in some games.

Scott Allan should be told to play his own game to win us matches and create chances. It matters a lot actually.
09-08-2019, 03:55 PM
MikeyS

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Originally Posted by 90+2

Do you personally think that’s enough? So far not enough is being done to protect the back line, even St Mirren exploited it numerous times with us having one up top, on the other hand we aren’t creating enough chances and playing it out wide, looking for our lb and rb to help out and then leaving glaring space.

No I dont think it's enough, was just highlighting what PH had said previously. He was quite clear also that Vela wasnt a DM but most other seem to think hes in to play that role. I reckon we will see Mallan play deeper than Vela throughout the season. Really dont know what to expect this year if I'm honest. Not convinced yet.
09-08-2019, 03:55 PM
MikeyS

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Originally Posted by underscore

We did sign one. This place is truly mental.

Who?
09-08-2019, 03:57 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by underscore

We did sign one. This place is truly mental.

Who? Vela, known best for putting his foot on the call and passing it?

This place is mental at time not going over shortcomings and just saying la la la it’s okay.

We go to Ibrox on Sunday, who in the midfield will stop them playing through us? We will get killed down the side of the pitch and play one up top and feed for scraps.
09-08-2019, 03:57 PM
Heisenberg

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Originally Posted by 90+2

He’s been sub in some games.

Scott Allan should be told to play his own game to win us matches and create chances. It matters a lot actually.

Which is exactly the role he was given against St Mirren.
09-08-2019, 03:58 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by MikeyS

Who?

The fact that at least one person has questioned that doesn’t make it mental.

It makes it more mental not acknowledging where our shortcomings may be and just blindly going into things.
09-08-2019, 03:58 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Which is exactly the role he was given against St Mirren.

He was being shouted at for not tracking back enough leading to their chances.
09-08-2019, 03:59 PM
Brightside

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Originally Posted by MikeyS

Who?

Vela is signed as the DM. We’ve never played 2.
09-08-2019, 03:59 PM
CMurdoch

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

Hoping the player Hearts have just signed is another Malaury Martin
Apart from a 2 year spell at Cardiff, nothing else on his CV is impressive

I agree. Had a look at his CV and only his contribution to Cardiff in their promotion season is impressive.
Lots of involvement with the French international age teams but as most of us know that means very little in relation to later success in senior football.

Much like Ojo at Aberdeen and Vela at Hibs the jury will be out on Dacour until he plays a good few games in Scotland.
I certainly haven't seen nearly enough of Ojo or Vela to form any opinions of them so far, other than to confirm they are no world beaters.
09-08-2019, 03:59 PM
The_Horde

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Originally Posted by oldbutdim

I wasn’t.

It was your claim on how often you watched LIVINGSTON

Anyway, I’m off now or I’ll be just as guilty of trolling as you and Poster D

You are just far too intelligent for this place. You've got it all worked out.
09-08-2019, 04:00 PM
Greencore

New era, same finances. Even though we are the third highest in season ticket prices in the league......
09-08-2019, 04:01 PM
MikeyS

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Originally Posted by 90+2

The fact that at least one person has questioned that doesn’t make it mental.

It makes it more mental not acknowledging where our shortcomings may be and just blindly going into things.

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Quote from Hecky here saying he is an all rounder who like sto support the attack. Doesn't seem like the Bartley replacement to me
09-08-2019, 04:02 PM
MikeyS

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Originally Posted by underscore

Vela is signed as the DM. We’ve never played 2.

Not according to PH, he was quoted as saying Vela is an all rounder who will get up and support the attack.
09-08-2019, 04:04 PM
Brightside

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Originally Posted by MikeyS

Not according to PH, he was quoted as saying Vela is an all rounder who will get up and support the attack.

Not all DMs sit 5 yards in front of the defence. He’s the grunt in midfield.
09-08-2019, 04:07 PM
MikeyS

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Originally Posted by underscore

Not all DMs sit 5 yards in front of the defence. He’s the grunt in midfield.

I agree with you actually but it's not going to stop folk moaning about not having a Bartley replacement all season when they dont see Vela barely moving from in front of the CBs!
09-08-2019, 04:09 PM
Brightside

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Originally Posted by MikeyS

I agree with you actually but it's not going to stop folk moaning about not having a Bartley replacement all season when they dont see Vela barely moving from in front of the CBs!

Bartley would start about what 7/8 games a season? Campbell or Stirling are both better footballers.
09-08-2019, 04:11 PM
beensaidbefore

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Originally Posted by My_Wife_Camille

It's a shame but it's essentially become a self fulfilling prophecy.

Poster A makes perfectly reasonable post
Poster B doesn't like Poster A and accuses him of trolling
Poster A defends himself

Thread off topic and becomes an argument about trolling

Poster C, "ah there's Poster A ruining threads again".

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it - if people showed the same levels of respect towards opinions they don't agree with to those they do agree with then the threads wouldn't go off like this.

:top marks

Twats
09-08-2019, 04:12 PM
MikeyS

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Originally Posted by underscore

Bartley would start about what 7/8 games a season? Campbell or Stirling are both better footballers.

Again I agree, bartley had his uses at Tynie but it was perfect time to move on. However, Some fans like to see rigid postions/formations and there will be some amount of tears and snotters if we take a doing and it doesn't appear someone has sat deep enough for their likening!
09-08-2019, 04:12 PM
Hibby Kay-Yay

If we are to get a Bartley replacement then would that mean bringing in a bench warmer?
09-08-2019, 04:13 PM
Winston Ingram

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Originally Posted by MikeyS

Not according to PH, he was quoted as saying Vela is an all rounder who will get up and support the attack.

...evidenced by the fact he didn’t play there last week.
09-08-2019, 04:16 PM
Torto7

We've lost Milligan, Marv and Omeonga. There were times last season when we were bullied and overrun in midfield. I'm happy with Vela and Allan coming in but we need more. I don't understand how anyone could think we don't.
09-08-2019, 04:17 PM
04Sauzee

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Originally Posted by 90+2

Who? Vela, known best for putting his foot on the call and passing it?

This place is mental at time not going over shortcomings and just saying la la la it’s okay.

We go to Ibrox on Sunday, who in the midfield will stop them playing through us? We will get killed down the side of the pitch and play one up top and feed for scraps.

We need to realise that Rangers are spending a fortune on their recruitment now, they are much better than they were last season. Where we finish in the league this season will not be determined by tomorrows result or performance. Just like Hearts start to last season had no bearing to how they would end the season. We are 1 game in I can't understand why folk are getting so worked up.
09-08-2019, 04:19 PM
SHODAN

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Originally Posted by underscore

Vela is signed as the DM. We’ve never played 2.

Vela looks more like a box-to-box player who is playing deep by necessity at the moment. If we sign a dedicated DM we can push him further up. I'm still not convinced Allan and Mallan can play together.
09-08-2019, 04:19 PM
500miles

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Originally Posted by underscore

Bartley would start about what 7/8 games a season? Campbell or Stirling are both better footballers.

Stirling could find himself getting a shot at right back given our injuries in that department.
09-08-2019, 04:21 PM
mcfly

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Originally Posted by 90+2

Who? Vela, known best for putting his foot on the call and passing it?

This place is mental at time not going over shortcomings and just saying la la la it’s okay.

We go to Ibrox on Sunday, who in the midfield will stop them playing through us? We will get killed down the side of the pitch and play one up top and feed for scraps.

Such a negative post

Glad your not doing our team talk on Sunday

Deary me
09-08-2019, 04:21 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay

If we are to get a Bartley replacement then would that mean bringing in a bench warmer?

No, we would be bringing in a player to protect the defenders even against st Mirren it was a shambles at times let alone going away to good teams.

Hecky might be happy but right now the squad is completely lacking an engine and even a forward to stick away chances.
09-08-2019, 04:21 PM
Real Emerald

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Originally Posted by Torto7

We've lost Milligan, Marv and Omeonga. There were times last season when we were bullied and overrun in midfield. I'm happy with Vela and Allan coming in but we need more. I don't understand how anyone could think we don't.

We do need more and the manager is saying finances are not allowing it. This is really worrying considering our huge leap in attendances, transfer money in and less bodies to pay. We’ve lost out on a sponsor which would have helped but as a club seem more concerned in community projects than our football team 😕
09-08-2019, 04:21 PM
Callum_62

Anyone else find the quotes about our finances not changing as slightly odd?

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