Pretty OTT take thereQuote:
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Pretty OTT take thereQuote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
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Bring him home and he’ll win the Ballon d’Or.
We’d still be waiting on the Scottish Cup if we never brought Stokes back. That’s a lazy take.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
If it happens, that is my real hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tambo
I don’t want him back. I don’t want the version that left us and I don’t think he’s improved. He clearly still has a habit of doing the utter ridiculous and costing his team going by Watford fans thoughts on him and he’s been poor for a considerable period now culminating in him being a bench warmer in a relegation battle.
I trust David Gray if he does sign him and I hope he can sort him out. It’ll be a hard ask though as I’m not convinced he wants sorted out. He appears to revel in playing the way he does, even though it can so often be so detrimental.
Or perhaps the 1991 League Cup given how pivotal he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by HendoDelivered
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Has Porteous had loads of red cards since he left? I remember him desperately flinging himself into a Germany player to stop us going 3 -0 down, but it appears I’ve missed him breaking legs and swinging punches?
‘Desperately flinging himself into a Germany player’ is being incredibly generous for what was one of the worst tackles you’re likely to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by 500miles
It was a bad tackle, but it was treated like he was trying to end Gundogans career. He jumped into a tackle when the ball was pinging about the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
:greengrin that is one of the worst overstatements that you're ever likely to read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray_
If it’s such an overstatement I presume you’ll be able to provide a string of examples of significantly worse tackles?
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Originally Posted by 500miles
No reds at club level since he left Hibs.
https://c.tenor.com/qptJJtxBNV4AAAAd/tenor.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by 500miles
Hahahahaha. Come on nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
The three games, post-split, have been littered with giving away soft goals, two of which resulted in defeats.
Rocky's poor defensive header against Aberdeen and the failure to follow Nisbet out cost us against Aberdeen.
Myko against Dundee Utd.
Rocky & O'Hora were poor at Celtic's first two goals, especially the first, where we were bullied by Idah. The third was a fumble by Smith and O'Hora moving aimlessly, leaving the right side exposed. SDG said himself we need to look at the defending. Porty would give us strength, he is at an age where he can improve and at this time, he would certainly strengthen the right side of the three and there is the added advantage of his ability to pick a pass, especially with us geared up for fast breaks and factor in, the home-grown rule.
A no-brainer for me.
I’m not having the Aberdeen goal as soft, it got thrown into the goal of the season competition by Sky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray_
As above - you’ll be able to provide a good few worse tackles as examples i would presume?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees
Aye probablyQuote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
And yet it’s no coincidence you won’t give any.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees
Two footed, studs up, high and with so much force that you could see Gundogans leg bend. When it comes to terrible tackles there’s pretty much not a box that he’s not managed to tick.
The guy is an idiot that deliberately goes out to hurt people. If he hadn’t played for us before nobody would be pretending otherwise.
It was great by Nisbet, his intelligence in taking up that position, and the execution was sublime.Quote:
Originally Posted by 500miles
From a defensive perspective, it was very poor. The header was weak and into a vulnerable area, and we never picked up Nisbet's movement, which, again, defensively was poor.
Since you asked, just in Scotland:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Ian Black on David Templeton (Hearts v Rangers, 2009)
Neil Lennon on Jim McIntyre (Celtic v Dundee Utd, 2005)
Graeme Shinnie on Callum McGregor (Aberdeen v Celtc, 2023)
Steven Naismith on Scott Brown (Hearts v Celtc, 2018)
That enough or do you want more?
Keane on Haaland. Souness on Billy Stark and Souness on George Mcluskey. There are dozens if not hundreds of examples of tackles as bad or worse than the one Porteous did at the Euros. You have a dislike of him which is fair enough but don’t pretend that his tackle was the worst in football historyQuote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
It was a poor tackle but alot of comments at the time seemed to be "he knew what he was doing". He spun around in the box at 2-0 down in the euro opener and lunged at the ball, missed and paid the price. To suggest in that split second he wanted to snap Gundogan is ridiculous. The ref didn't even call it at the time and there was no appeals from Germany.
I'd take him back without a doubt. He started alot of our attacks with his decent passing too.
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Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees
The Naismith stamp was nowhere near as bad. Cowardly, absolutely, but nothing like the Porteous one which was a leg breaker.
No idea what Shinnie one you’re talking about but given he didn’t get any red card against Celtic in 2023, I’m willing to call bull**** on that.
Following on from that, shouts of tackles from 2009, 2005 and Graham Souness tell you all you need to know if people have to go that far back for examples.
There was also Balde's tackle on Brown while he was at Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees
Did Ryan Porteous hurt you in any way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Ah right, so it’s like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
You don’t agree that the Naismith one was as bad so you’re right
You can’t remember the Shinnie one so, again, you’re right
You asked for examples and you’ve been given some but because they’re passed your made up deadline, you’re still right
Got ye
You don’t need to reply by the way, you asked for examples, you’ve been given multiple, you hate Porteous, crack on
Someone broke Steven Fletcher's leg, sure it was a Celtic player?
Killie player on Alex Harris that seemed to stunt his career.
Every goal can be seen as very poor from a defensive error if you look hard enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray_
I once allowed a boy to score from about 40 yards out on the volley because I thought no chance he'd score and thought he'd turn the ball over and decided to cover the passes instead and let him hit it. Sailed top bin on this occasion and you could look at me standing off him as a defensive error. But I'd do it again as in the moment it was sound logic and you sometimes have to hold your hand up and say the boys scored a beauty.
The Naismith one was nothing like the Porteous one and you’re kidding yourself on if you think it was. And yes, I’m absolutely right about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees
If you have to go back 20 years (or in another posters case, 40) then it’s absolutely fair to say it’s one of the worst tackles you’re likely to see. You’ll not see many that tick every box for being a shocker.
If he hadn’t played for Hibs we wouldn’t be having such a ridiculous conversation. The guy gets a ludicrous amount of leeway on here every time he acts like a ****ing idiot. We even had people making excuses for him when he launched a glass at a women’s head ffs.
The Millwall keeper on Mateta in the FA cup this season. Skull breaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts