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Originally Posted by Since452
We've already signed a keeper, and one with a really good reputation. And McGrath of course.
Three more good signings and our squad looks very peachy. Don't think Dons or Jambos would say the same.
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Originally Posted by Since452
We've already signed a keeper, and one with a really good reputation. And McGrath of course.
Three more good signings and our squad looks very peachy. Don't think Dons or Jambos would say the same.
I see on the Swansea forum they were talking about reducing the size of their squad by moving on some fringe players. We actually got a mention along with Derby in “ we really need Derby and Hibs to get their cheque books out ‘ take it that was referring to us about Myko . I don’t know if Derby was for another player or are interested in Myko . At the right price would folk be happy to see him back or think we should move on ?
At the right price, absolutely. Could see he was getting better as the season went on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
I don't think the fee would be the issue but what Myko is currently earning, I'd be happy to see him back thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
We'd have to match the wages Swansea are paying him over the next 2 years and pay a transfer fee, and he's unlikely to be one of our strongest XI. Not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Not necessarily, we can offer what we would normally offer him and Swansea can agree with him to pay the difference in the two wages for a period. Transfer fee could be nominal as well, all depends on how desperate they are to save some money.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Cosell
I think he has just over a year left in his contract . If the rumours are true what he’s getting at Swansea wage wise I think he is more than likely going to have to take a fairly significant wage drop where ever he goes and Swansea will get nothing remotely close to what they paid for him which was daft on their part anyhow. Might be a long shot though you never know in football.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Cosell
Kuharevich wants to come back so I would assume he knows it'd be a fairly significant wage cut.
Wouldn't be against Myko coming back he offers something different up front if he can add goals then even betterQuote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
I still like to think we can get better than Myk, albeit his form did improve a lot the last 5 games or so
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Originally Posted by eastmainsmsh
I expect that finding a stable home, games and a manager will benefit his development. Had a very stop and start career until last season, but I genuinely believe his top end potential is way above the SPFL.
Plenty of players have had potential though.
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I’d want better than Myko.
He’s decent for off the bench and putting himself about but I’m still not convinced
Yet we had some of our best performances at the business end of the season with him starting. As others have correctly mentioned, his form was improving as the season went on. Would love to sign him permanently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
I get why there’s split opinions on him though I think he offered us something a bit different and the potential is there in he can improve . If the deal was right I wouldn’t be against bringing him back again . It will be interesting to see if we try as Triantis and him were two players I think Gray wanted back when he became manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
Can you explain what performances were "Erratic" the season we finished 3rd?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
We conceded 50 goals last season.
We conceded 35 the season the last time we finished 3rd.
The season following that we conceded 42.
Ryan was an integral part of both defences and mostly one of the first names picked by multiple managers.
I think I'll take the word of the countless coaches who called upon him and the multiple championships sides who were interested in signing him.
Tend to agree with this, Myko has seemed half fit all season and you have to wonder if he has it in him to up his fitness to a standard where it would be worth Hibs busting a gut to keep him. I'm not saying I would be against him staying, but I wouldn't want us to be blowing a large part of our budget on procuring him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Was wondering about Sam Dalby after his good season with Dundee United, but it seems he has signed a 4 year deal with Bolton ... ho hum.
From the Guardian Rumour Mill
Sunderland are awaiting offers for the midfielder Nectarios Triantis. The Premier League newcomers want around £1.5m in exchange for his services after an impressive season on loan at Hibernian. Fortuna Düsseldorf and MLS clubs are keen on the player who is debating where his international future lies, with Australia and Greece both options.
I think he did a lot of unseen work (boom boom). He brought a lot to the team even if he wasn't banging them in all the time. I'd like to get him permanently if we could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
If we were to sign Porteous would we be getting a player who was better or no better than the one who was, and let's be honest, struggling in the team before he was sold?
If he's not improved then I dont see the point of bringing him back. Watford sending him out on loan and then losing his place at Preston doesn't give me much confidence.
If he comes back I'll trust Gray to get the best out of him.
I’ve not seen Porteous for Watford or Preston, and I agree he wasn’t at his best before he left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
I think out of frustration and a sense he has to do it himself.
But for Scotland, on most occasions I thought he was very good and showed quality and discipline (Germany aside) that he has.
If we were getting him back for the sake of it or without the manager knowing him it would be a different story, but for me Porteous under SDG would be brilliant.
I’d want him to play RCB though and then if we fail to resign Rocky, sign a similar centre back with the athleticism he has
He fits the RCB role perfectly, its where he has been best for Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
If we can get a big no nonsense quick centre half with the same profile as Rocky (Or Rocky) if he decides to stay to play the CCB role, then I think our back 3 is sorted.
Logan Jimenez - first pro deal:
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2...rst-pro-deal-/
I genuinely think we pay that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Sarf
Well done Logan, i know a lot of the kids never make it to first team football, would still be a proud day for himself and his family.Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryGlory
Regarding Myko, would take him back if its at the right price, knows the club etc and wouldn't take long to adjust and i did feel like near the end of the season he was on good form.
1.5 would be big for us to get Triantis, would be worth the risk of that fee though i think and one we could make some good money on in the future.
Livi sign Zak Rudden.
I said before I could see us going slightly over the million fee 1.1m or 1.2m which is still serious money for a club like Hibs though 1.5m is getting towards a figure that I think is hitting our limit , maybe there might be be some leeway on it hopefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by EGL2000
On another note, Napoli are going to have a formidable midfield next season with De Bruyne signed (as long as he can stay fit of course). Gilmour, McTominay and De Bruyne in the middle should have their fans excited.
It could be the £1.5 million that Sunderland supposedly want is made up of a few elements - upfront fee, add-ons for appearances, international caps, sell on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Given that he popularised the 'ginger hair, bright red from exertion' look, he should be considered an honorary ScotQuote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
I don't, but admire your optimism ��Quote:
Originally Posted by EGL2000
1.5 million is starting to leave our price range.
Not sure about that, he looked to have a tan on him last season and as Billy Connolly once said, "it takes Scots a week to get to white" :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish
AgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
Looked a million dollars in some games a thoroughbred Rolls Royce of a player posted missing in others
That is what you get with young players inconsistency
Happy to let SDG decide
Not to be pedantic, but Gilmour doesnt play a great deal, and McTom plays inside left. The middle is usually Anguissa & LobotkaQuote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Yeah it's at risk of getting to a know when to walk away territory similar to McCowan last year. I don't really have that many doubts that if we were to spend £1.5m that we could make it all back and still get a profit off him within 2 seasons but it's also a large amount to chuck out in one go at a time where our finances have been heavily scrutinised.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
Obviously no guarantee as there never is in football. But outwith a freak in injury I think you could easily get at least double after a season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
I agree. I think if he was to even replicate this last season and have a decent showing at the World Cup he would be worth a good penny. It's just obviously a big risk to a club of our size to pay these types of fees. But one look at Aberdeens recent signings this season will tell you it's probably the way it's going.Quote:
Originally Posted by EGL2000
It’s like wage negotiations, one party starts high and the other starts low. Hopefully reach a compromise somewhere between the two figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHODAN
A lot will be made up of appearances, international caps, etc.
No way will Hibs pay £1.5million up front or in total
1 mil is as high as we should go, if not then try a loan and failing that then there are other options out there.
My confused wording, by middle I was referring to the middle of the park/midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cocaine&Caviar
We should be prepared to go as high as we think he's worth if we can afford it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribs1875
Sorry, I don't maintain a detailed dossier on Porto, but erratic was a general view, not confined to the season we finished third.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
Over his Hibs career he was a bit of a loose canon at times, costing the team with sendings off, mistakes and behaving like a petulant child, with the finger pointing, moaning and taking no responsibility for his own errors.
You can take anyone's word you want, I'll take the fact that he's failed to establish himself at a better level, for club or country as proof enough that he's not the second coming. As I have already said, he's a decent player in our league and if he's learned a bit of restraint he'll be even better.
If you want a more in depth dive into what people made of Porteous' Hibs career, there a fair number of threads on here for you, fill your boots. In fact, this thread alone is probably fairly reflective of what people feel. It's pretty mixed I'd say.
I suppose that is possible , I think it would be need to be the case as I really can’t see us paying £1.5m up front . Another thing I was thinking on is if it is going to cost as much as that even with add -ons etc . Is there any logic to taking in two different targets at say £600k or £700k would make us even stronger as opposed to buying Triantis even though he is quality? .Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryGlory
1 million, some achievable add ons and a sell on %
From what I recall of porteous was he had a mistake in him but never his fault. He'd berate teammates for misplaced passes or not collecting a pass from him if he'd mistimed/misplaced said pass
He wouldn’t get away with acting like that in this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy
Looks like Xavier Simons has signed for Bolton then..
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3a7b2ba2ab.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by EH21Hibee
Hope that means we’re getting TriantisQuote:
Originally Posted by EH21Hibee
Gimp.Quote:
Originally Posted by EH21Hibee
If he wasn’t picked up by Jamestown analytical team, we dodged a bulletQuote:
Originally Posted by EH21Hibee
We should only go for their targets
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No need for that even if he does live in Musselburgh. :bitchy:Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
Aren’t we playing them in a friendly as well?
Get Porto in to break his leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
No need to give referees an excuse to red card Porto - big Malky could cement him as he enters the building for wasting his time....Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Unfortunately for us they pay a lot more than us ‘ also just signed Sam Dolby
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Originally Posted by GloryGlory
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Best of luck Logan!
Bermuda is a tiny place, they seem to over perform in producing good footballers though.
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Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Bolton saying they paid around £300k and Hull saying they got £500k . Had a feeling we miss out on him after what he was saying in an interview he done when he mentioned his family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Hopefully not a window of missing out on targets for us.
Rather Triantis than Xavier 🤞
Inevitable consequence if we’re going for a better standard of player. TV deal for lower league clubs in England make it very difficult to compete with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
We’ve definitely got selling points dross like Bolton can’t offer, there’s no question in some cases we will lose out though.
Better that than signing crap nobody else wants.
I doubt that. So far got McGrath and Salinger in. We won't know for sure who is a definite target and who is just put out there by the twitterati, but I'm sure we'll get players in who'll make a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Probably depend how it was paid no doubt over a number of milestone payments.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
Or BKFC fund itQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
With Triantis it's not just the 1.5 million fee, he'll be, quite rightly, demanding a wage to match that transfer fee.
Let's say it's 8k a week on a 4 year deal, with bonuses that's 2 million a year in wages plus the transfer fee you're looking at an outlay of 3.5 million to get Triantis in.
That's a lot of money to Hibs, Gray and Mackay will know better than anyone on here whether that's value for money but if we don't get him you can understand why looking at those figures.
8k a week is 400k a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
Well, slightly more, but yes around that.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Cosell
Including bonuses it would probably be not far off 2 million over 4 years. Just realised my previous post said 2 million a year, meant to say over the 4 years.
Think yer calculator battery is deid.... :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
2 million a year 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
He meant 2m over 4 years wages inc bonus. 3.5m including transfer fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Cosell
It seems a lot but if he performs and we sell after 2 seasons for 3m we could make 1/2m and have had a good player for a couple of years for free. He could also be rubbish..
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Originally Posted by HoboHarry
I think he's meaning over 4 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees
Seen this that one poster says we have made inquiries about Myko , maybe nothing in it …
https://jackarmy.net/forum/threads/s....23600/page-88
I hope so, he's a players I think would take back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Who are these two targets for the price of a Triantis? Our midfield is already pretty stacked. I’ve said it before, I’m convinced our board will push the boat out for SDG this summer. If 1.5m is what it takes to secure Triantis, that’s what we’ll pay. One thing about the Gordons is that they have backed every manager with cash. And there’s nothing that’s been said recently to indicate that will change. Our transfer record is likely to be smashed this window - possibly more than once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Calm doon man ffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
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Originally Posted by Ship of Hope
I’d suggest that’s highly unlikely. The guy is only going to get better.
Think the good thing is that we know what we’re gettingQuote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
We could still shell Vente style money on an alternative centre mid but it would be more costly as he’s not good or doesn’t contribute etc
Heard locally that of the offers given to him Mulligan has decided on RangersQuote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Yeah, agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Not saying it's a bad signing if it happens, but the total cost of bringing Triantis to Hibs would likely be one of the highest revenue outlays the club has ever had to make on a player.
If it happens I think everyone will be happy but at the same time if it doesn't, I can understand the reasoning.
I know T I’ve been very much in the Gordon’s camp from day 1 as I know they will back us as much as they can . As I’ve said before for all the mistakes they’ve made I think they have a bond with the club and genuinely care about it , we are lucky to have them as owners IMO .Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
I suppose what I meant by two targets for the price of Triantis is if we end up in a position where the fee unrealistic for us or another club offers more and we lose out we could still end up just as well of if we spend the money wisely on a couple of other quality players if that makes sense…
For what its worth I would rather have him back and I’ve no doubts the club will try everything possible to get him
back too 👍.
Wouldn’t mind Triantis and Henderson to deliver
Surely not? 👀Quote:
Originally Posted by eastmainsmsh
Interesting the poster mentions a loan even though he has just over a year left on his contract . I might be wrong but I don’t see Swansea recouping much in a fee which makes me wonder would they opened to the idea of loaning him out to us again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribs1875
I’m pretty calm tbh, just hoping that won’t be the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
Not like you to be a glass half empty type of guy. New set-up in place now. Keep the faith 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
I think Dundee are on the verge of announcing Drey Wright.
I know, hence the smiley face from me :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by J-C
Glass half empty because I hope we don’t miss out on targets?Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
Will do bud.
I can never remember who the ITK guys are in here, so I’m just going to pretend I didn’t read that and get on with my day.Quote:
Originally Posted by eastmainsmsh
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Rangers fans expecting Josh Mulligan to sign in the next couple of days.
I think Josh Mulligan is a really good player, same with Lyall Cameron.
But the thought of Rangers having those two and Connor Barron in midfield doesn’t worry me at all.
Pretty disappointed we have not managed to get Simmons think he looked a real good player.
Suppose it depends if they’re squad players or starters. Great squad players to have. More so Mulligan and CameronQuote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Were we ever after him?Quote:
Originally Posted by EGL2000
Said the same before, any Sevco fan with a head operating at half capacity can see they aren't challenging Celtic with signings like that. They might also wonder when all the new investment is going to arrive from their new owners (ahem).Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Done dealQuote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Yip like you had expected a bit more activity by now, Rocky staying or going, Hoilett staying or going, Myko any real interest, same with Triantis, Porto, anyway all will be revealed in due course no doubt. 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Would it be fair to assume players, agents and club officials are mainly in holiday just now given lack of transfer activity?
If only we were using analytics, we would have 5 or 6 in by now, maybe not what the manager wants or needs but stillQuote:
Originally Posted by Col2