All the birds. If commies like Biden are allowed to build windmills, there will be no more birds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
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All the birds. If commies like Biden are allowed to build windmills, there will be no more birds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
For those of you who have still not got their heads around how the US could possibly have elected a racist, misogynist liar like Trump, I highly recommended re-watching the Borat film from 2006, it all becomes perfectly clear after that.
I watched it in preparation for the new one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
What was striking was that things that shocked me a decade or so ago didn't really have an impact anymore. That kind of rhetoric has moved into the mainstream. Those guys on the bus were hounded for what they said at the time. Now the President implies it is OK to say these things and people at his rallies proudly declare them for the camera. I'm sceptical a new film in the same vein can work, the news gives more of a platform to these voices than a satirical film ever could.
Anyway another debate that saw no massive disaster for Biden so he should be just about home and dry now.
Maybe but it might help persuade those who do not support him to turn up and vote. No benefit of the doubt this time round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Wind Farms actually do kill birds (and bats). What Trump, Putin and those of their ilk have avoided is comparing the numbers with those that die through other forms of power generation.
THIS article makes some interesting comparisons.
According to the article, domestic Cats kill an estimated 55 million birds in the UK every year.
Anybody that had a genuine interest in bird numbers would introduce a law banning Cats.
The proper location of wind farms, away from migratory routes of birds, mitigates against possible bird deaths. Early wind farms in the USA killed huge numbers due to lack of knowledge of migratory birds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Other studies show that painting one blade a different colour can mitigate against bird strike.
Bats navigate by using linear features, such as hedges or the edge of woodland, there are minimum distance regulation for the location of turbines in relation to such features, mitigating against bat strikes.
Windfarms don't **** in other folks' gardens either. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
And glass buildings. You know, like the one he lived in before the White House.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Yeah, sorry, probably more my pedantry than anything else! It is a difficult situation though as people who are genuinely capable of making such major decisions objectively are probably few and far between.Quote:
Originally Posted by AltheHibby
It's scary. I just watched it as well and it's pretty tame what these randoms are saying compared to the rhetoric from mainstream politicians now. And not just Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I watched the original film in horror but for others it seems to have been a rallying call to pursue the kind of views the film exposes.
Just finished watching Borat 2 and the scene near the end with Rudy Giuliani would in normal times have meant the end of his career. "I was just tucking my shirt into my pants", aye right Rudy.Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
So, wonder if tomorrow is start of the end game!
I’ve said for a while now that he’s no chance.. now I’m starting to think he might somehow win again..Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
I listened to Joe Biden the other night. He spoke for four minutes; in my opinion he sounded more presidential in that four minutes than Donald Trump as in the previous four years. Biden talks about this being the "time to heal" the US and vows "not to divide but to unify". I hope the Americans give him a chance, but can see this all getting messy. Both in the short term with all the talk about legal challenges and in the medium/long term with a Republican Senate.
Back to Donald Trump, he once said the Barack Obama was the worst US president ever. I wonder how the historians will assess Trump's presidency!
Already been done on Twitter: 'The past is *****, the past is orange.'Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
Bat **** Crazy.
He's getting worse every day and needs locked up.
His legacy will be the wall, big vote winner, senate majority and he never built it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Not to mention the Donald Trump Coronavirus response.
Tells us more about how easily politicians can con the voters with big soundbites.
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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
'Get Brexit Done'
How much of his fence/wall was actually built?
Any chance it gets pulled down now?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6f3f2c9bcd.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
9 whole extra miles. All fence. No actual wall.
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between 3 and 15 miles of new wall (never existed before)Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/f...ms/3437653001/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46824649
although its a fence, not a wall.
and he took $10bn from the DoD budget to do it.
Similar numbers to fraudulent postal votes by the sounds of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
There's criminal charges pending over the funding as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...anada-46824649
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Well his legacy certainly won’t be the Paris Agreement. If Biden sticks to his word and recommits the USA to it on day one, then Trump will have managed to extract the country from it for c.10 weeks. Symbolically that’s a huge embarrassment for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Agreed, but to be embarrassed he'd need to have a conscience about his actions and be capable of shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs Class
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Coronavirus task force set up ready to go will be announced tomorrow.
Paris decision will be be reversed.
Straight back into the WHO.
What else will Biden do pretty quickly?
Trump is the political equivalent of hearts. A bombastic obnoxious jobbie that just can’t accept he’s been flushed.
Can he do that so soon?Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
Was reading earlier that most of what Trump has done has been by executive order.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
It appears that the new Pres can just rip them up and make his own ones and boom almost everything major that Trump ‘achieved’ is reversed almost immediately.
The task force won't take effect until he's sworn in i believe and the others will be taken care of by Ex O's i would imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
My point is that he's not in office until January. Can he do much before then?Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
Ahh sorry. Naaa not much at all apart from plan I reckon.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Not much until he's sworn in next year. Also faces the usual, often insurmountable frustrations that many presidents do if the Republicans retain control of the Senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
As an aside, it's probably already been mentioned on either this or another thread, but I was reading up on Biden earlier and was bemused to see his 1988 bid for the presidency collapsed after plagiarising a speech by Neil Kinnock?!!
https://gvwire.com/2020/08/21/recall...ms-plagiarism/
Try to repair the Iranian Nuclear Deal (although this will cause a lot of friction with Israel and Saudi Arabia whom he might not want to piss off immediately)Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
I see that someone has changed the thread title to "(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump". However, I thought that all former presidents receive the title of “president” even after the leave office unless they hold another position such as congrerrmen/congresswomen.
What's the Former President claiming there? That his TV show was cheated out of awards by fraudulent voting? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Just an example of his narcissism when he erm, loses something.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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I'm currently watching Designated Survivor and a former president is addressed as president.Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
There was a film called My Fellow Americans where two former Presidents (Jack Lemmon and James Garner) are being hunted down by the current President (Dan Ackroyd) and all three are referred to as 'Mr President'.
You wouldn't address someone as Former President, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't talk about Former Presidents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Do you mean 'addressed as' rather than 'referred to'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
He can hold briefings, tell people to distance and wear masks. Basically give some more credibility to the messaging.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
He can outline his plans and keep the public informed. Work up his Federal vaccine implemention plan, speak to health, military and logistics experts. Ensure that the States know they won’t have to eBay with other States for PPE and the likes.
All things that the incumbent has not done. True, he won’t have the mechanics of State yet, but he can get wheels in motion.
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In Designated Survivor the current president addressed the former president as Mr president.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Like, once a president, always a president.
Yes, as a form of address. But there's nothing wrong with the current title of this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Yes, it's the same in the movie Frost vs Nixon. Nixon gets referred to throughout as Mr President despite resigning in disgrace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
As you say Trump will always be addressed as Mr President...and I guess as President Donald Trump should he run again and win in 2024!!
Somebody needs to do something as the Loser who thinks he's a winner seems to think that if he is still running the country he can do it all by sulking round the golf course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Shame on the Republican leaders for allowing this state of affairs to continue, especially over Trump's bizarre Covid "response " or lack of it.
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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Yep, that's what I meant.
:aok:
Apparently the General Services Administration (GSA) is responsible for setting the transition process in motion. Until they officially recognise Biden as the winner the transition can't begin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
As far as I'm aware (might be wrong though) the GSA is an independent body so I'm not sure why they would be dragging their heels.
If he were to run in 2024 and win, could he defend that in 2028 and become a three term President?Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
*won't happen cos he'll either be banged up or drop dead hacking his way out the rough at the 16th hole somewhere.
The counting hasn't finished? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
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Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby
don't think he can, it’s a 2 term limit
No that doesn't appear to be the reason. I'm guessing Trump has some influence on giving them the green light.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
No he could only do four more years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby
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Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
It might be the end of Trump (assuming he doesn't run again, which seems unlikely though not out of the question for somebody like him) but it's highly unlikely to be the end of 'Trumpism'.
Trump himself may be a bampot and we might like to write off his presidency as a one-off abberation, but it doesn't mean the 70 million Americans who voted for him are just going to roll over. Many of his ideas were clearly highly popular with a massive swathe of the population and it's easy to forget in the midst of a pandemic that pre-Covid the American economy was in robust shape, which raised wages for many low-skilled workers.
Trump's biggest allies were actually the intellectual left/liberal/metropolitan elite (call them what you will) who ignored the very voters who should have formed their natural heartland, but who ended up seeing Trump's offer as something mainstream politics had failed to provide them with. A similar 'forgotten majority' to those who ended up voting Britian out of the EU.
If the left continue to make the same mistakes (and they must have feared they'd done so as their expectations of a Biden landslide evaporated on election night) there's every chance of another populist surge.
https://twitter.com/lispower1/status...457391107?s=21
Shows how powerful media companies can be. Two weeks ago Fox would not have batted an eye and the allegations would have credibility simply by being aired. Taking the stream off and highlighting the lack of evidence exposes the weakness of the conspiracy being peddled
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Murdoch has always had the ability to switch horse when it suits his business interests. This is a clear sign that he sees Trump as dead in the water now. He’ll move very quickly to try discredit him as much as possible because he does not want Trump setting up his own network and taking all the crazies with him.
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:agree: Times running a story against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
There are a number of people, mostly politicians and newspaper columnists, that are suggesting that now is the time to heal divisions between the warring sides and try to build bridges with the Trump side and his supporters.
I totally agree that's the best approach... but Trump is currently making that impossible with his (totally predictable) Toys Out The Pram behaviour.
Surely most people that did vote Trump are embarrassed by the stuff that's coming out of his Twitter posts, and from his entourage?
This is alway my concern when those on the left (not that the Democrats are much to the left) win. They are told they must embrace the country, listen to those that didn't vote with them, be moderate and compromise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
The right win and go for a hard Brexit, troll the left as Trump has done for years, and generally do what they want.
Right now Biden needs to govern as he believes is right, and worry less about Trump supporters. As you've noted, he and his team aren't allowing that to happen. I want to see the Democrats aggressively push their agenda and pursue whatever legal means they have to ensure crimes committed by Trump and his team are brought to justice.
It's a disgrace that Nixon was pardoned and it shouldn't be allowed to happen again.
Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico for a start. Try and balance the Senate out a bit.
J
I've still got this horrible nagging feeling...
Have you seen a doctor? 😷😉Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Interestingly I’ve still got a cash out option on my Republicans winning the election bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
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Really? I'd have grabbed that a couple of days ago but now I'm not so sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Nah.Trump's not getting re-elected. All this legal pish is just the orange moron coming to terms with his grief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
And squeezing some cash out of the populationQuote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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Let's hear it for the grifter!Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Yep think I read it says in the small print on all these fundraisers that it can be used to pay off campaign debts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
I know some people that are spouting out trumps rhetoric and claiming the vote was rigged Dead people voted and Trump is the winner and the Courts will find fir him
One is losing friends as they believe they are speaking the truth and others are wrong
Frightening stuff
Can’t understand why someone is getting so worked up about the American Election when the Tories are acting the way they are ffs
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We have a guy in our work who has always been seen as a little odd (quite religious though not that this would explain the oddness:greengrin) however one of my colleagues who he barely knows said the guy was discussing the election and he was very exercised by it all on how Trump was being badly treated in the media and that it was hugely important that he were to win. Seems strange to be that bothered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
Trump's hold on some people does seem messianic.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
The claim so far seems to be they cheated so I lost
Wheres is should be
Here evidnece that shows I've been cheated and hence why I lost
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It does as he is an intelligent person but apparently wouldn't consider any of Trumps weaker points at all when questioned about them. Very strangeQuote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Hadn't realised that he claimed all the same sort of stuff in 2016, when he wasn't a complete :loser:Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
From the Washington Post then:
"President-elect Donald Trump spent Sunday ridiculing Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign for joining a recount effort in Wisconsin, ending his day on Twitter by parroting a widely debunked conspiracy theory that her campaign benefited from massive voter fraud.
As his senior advisers engaged in an escalating feud over who the next secretary of state should be, Trump focused publicly on Clinton’s tally of 64 million votes — more than 2 million beyond what he garnered — by suggesting without evidence that millions of people illegally voted in the election.
“In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally,” Trump tweeted late Sunday, one of more than 10 tweets on the recount issue.
That accusation — spread by conspiracy sites such as *Infowars.com and discredited by fact-checking organizations — gained traction among some far-right conservatives disappointed that Trump lost the popular vote."
He has a magnetic appeal to a whole range of weirdos because he panders to their racism, bigotry, extremist religious views, paranoia, conspiracies and greed. They are all desperate to be legitimized and the best thing they can all hope for is to be able to say "My views are not weird because the president shares them". It doesn't bother them in the slightest that he probably doesn't really hold similar weird views, it's enough that their weird views are legitimized.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
In the 'paranoia' category ... https://twitter.com/jonvoight/status/1326323889417322497Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
He starts with the words "I stand here...."Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
He's sitting down, no? :greengrin
And then quotes a Muslim.....:cb
His eyes are jumping about as if the cue cards his captors are making him read aloud are too big.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Sad to see that, great actor, Runaway Train is a particular favourite. You just want to ask these people; where is the actual evidence? That’s the obvious question.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
:tsk tsk: Satan works in mysterious ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
The Republican politicians and their lickspittles have taken gaslighting to an extremely dangerous and damaging level. But it has become so commonplace that it's difficult to see how there will be any repercusions for them.
Jeezo, even famous actors are complete loonies too, I'm still bamboozled how the USA became this world superpower when it's full of weirdos and eejits.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
The President has said it's true. What further evidence do you need?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Wouldn't believe something just on his say-so. Would want it backed up by Tucker Carlson before I could be sure it's true. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by ballengeich
I'm waiting till Piers Morgan gets back.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
James Woods is another one who has inexplicably wedded himself to Trump. I first watched Woods in the 1970s mini series Holocaust where he played a victim of the Nazis, so a kind of bitter irony that he has become such a cheerleader for Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
What does Tucker Jenkins think?Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Him and Voight are weird looking to be fair, at least my theory of Trumps Weirdos is still intact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs Class
He couldn't give a Tucker's Luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Yup, terrific actor. He'll always be Joe Buck to me (just typing that starts Harry Nilsson's theme song playing in my head).Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Thinking back to 2016, I had a conversation with some VERY senior members of the AICPA (the American accounting institute), and most of them were voting Trump. It worried me then, and now, that well educated people fall for his nonsense.
This could explain his animation. Watch the video.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
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http://www.vox.com/videos/2020/2/12/...foreign-policy
There's no denying that he has done well where the economy is concerned, which is why they would vote for him based on his policies in that respect. He is still a **** thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by AltheHibby
It's not necessarily the nonsense. I know a lot of people who's only interest in politics, and the reason they vote republican, is "to keep my taxes down". A lot of them disagree with Trump and other republican policies but they always come out with "but my taxes are lower so I vote for them."Quote:
Originally Posted by AltheHibby
I honestly believe you can get far in American politics by saying 1) lower taxes 2) looser gun control 3) abortion bad. There are people I know who vote only on one of those three issues. In fact a friend of mine purposely voted trump because Hilary would take his guns away in 2016.
American politics is very, very strange.
It’s the masses that have been spoon fed the lie of trickle down economics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Does an unemployed, black, single Mum from Baton Rouge, Louisiana really give a toss that the stock market is up 8 points?
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No, but in the world of accountancy, then yes they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Yet some people say the current POTUS is likely to have had many abortions arranged. (Also on an unrelated point. I’m sure him holding that Bible the other day was one of the few times he’s actually held the Bible).Quote:
Originally Posted by Haymaker
The bible is his favourite book apparently!
Grifter! How do people fall for him?
https://youtu.be/ERUngQUCsyE
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Sadly there are many more poor black women than accountants in America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
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Yet they hate Joe Biden who actually goes to church!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
I agree, but my post was in reply to another post about accountants! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby