Printable View
You have made some of the most abusive and divisive posts here and elsewhere as you shift ground. I can only assume I have misread this post as it looks like you are trying to paint yourself as some sort of victim. I don't think anybody has accused you of being a BuyHibs apologist. not that you would know as you simply ignore any replies you get. As I pointed out to you before some of the most damning posts about BuyHibs came from yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
Are you 2 tied at the hip or is Gogs paying you to be his cheerleader.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerard
If Gogs is so serious about what he says then why did he choose to run over the road to take unfounded swipes at several people on here including members of the admin team without naming any names of course.
If you can't see the irony in that then hell mend you.
You don't need to remind us all that you agree with Gogs at every opportunity though.
I think we get it.
It has been mentioned there was a guy on Twitter who was asking Andrew Sibley about what their plans were and was answered with questions and riddles and told to attend the meetings. He was told he could join the meeting via a live cast. He said he couldn't attend the meetings and continued to ask questions, similar to what a lot of posters on here are asking but Andrew still didn't answer. He seemed quite persistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
There then followed a tweet from Holyrood Boxing accusing the tweeter (is that a word?) of being an "agent of the board" who was "happy" that we got relegated and that STF had stolen ER. Also the hashtag #Bam (good Edinburgh word that). This was immediately retweeted by Andrew Sibley who was then asked by a couple of posters about the accusation of theft made against STF and pointed the people asking questions in the direction of Hands on Hibs (not Holyrood Boxing although Hands on Hibs have their own twitter account) and said it wasn't him that had made the accusation. When pressed he claimed to only retweet the offensive tweet (I am really not comfortable with the word "tweet") so that the intended recipient could "challenge" it he felt the accusations were "unfair" on him when there was really no need as the tweet sent to both Andrew and the tweeter Iain.
What do you think RIP?
And if you speak out against BuyHibs and HoH you get falsely accused of being a "board apologist". Works both ways RIP.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
Sniping on each board then running. Your posts have been some of the most personal and abusive on this subject. On the PM board too.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
Heading to the bounce and categorising us all as well.
This victim act is getting a bit bizarre.
How does trying to discredit and bad mouth posters on here over on the Bounce fit into treating others more kindly?Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
I see you have once again skilfully ignored several replies to your 'woe is me' post on the PM board.
I think several others have covered these points as well but it would be good to get an explanation on how you believe your personal and abusive attacks differ from the ones you believe have been made against yourself.
There is nothing new to say ,and I for one can't be bothered with who is taking whose side and all the sniping going on at present Its not achieving anything .i am now waiting till the AGM as I think that's now when there will be some clarity on what Board see as the way forward , and then some meaningful debate can begin again .Can we not have a Moritorium in the lead up to Christmass with Peace ,Love and Goodwill to all Hibees :tree:tree:tree
Abuse my arse, its folk asking questions that are NEVER answered. I should have been the easiest person for you and the HOH, Hibileaks to persuade, as nobody wanted change and a new owner more than me.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
Yet every one that's come forward has made such a shambles of their campaign :faf: that even i wouldn't part with a single penny for their goals.
Now its playing the victim, don't make me laugh.
Let this go, its dead in the water now. This has also harmed anyone who actually does know what they are doing and does have the necessary business plan and funds to buy Hibs.
I saw a Tweet the other day from the Holyrood Boxing Club, who seem to be taking over some of the PR for Hibileaks.
A Twatter had asked the same question, mentioned elsewhere, about STF "stealing" the assets. The reply was along the same lines, accusing the Twatter of being an "agent", but signing off with the hashtag SecretSexWorker
Bams and sex workers unite. :aok:
:top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
What I feared has happened, we have the unedifying spectacle of Hibs Fans attacking each other with all the grace & maturity of kids brawling in the playground. It's pathetic really & I would ask all netters to review their posts before submitting. If the main content of the post is an attack on another netter please think again. And please, no posts saying but he/she started it, that would really confirm the playground analogy.
PS, Admins could help by setting a model example.
Amen to all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
Posters (on both sides of the debate) speculating based on their own bias without any facts to back them up, and then shouting down people who disagree with them.
Let's be friends.
Thing that stood out for me in that exchange was that Andrew Sibley referred to a tweet from Holyrood Boxing Gym as it had come from Hands on Hibs, having immediately retweeted the (potentially) libellous comment. When asked to clarify why he felt the need to retweet his explanation seemed disingenuous at best, claiming to be doing the person accused of being an "agent" a service.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
There seems to be little between Hands on Hibs, Hibileaks, Holyrood boxing and Buy Hibs. Their actions would suggest they are colluding. If so their actions are stupid, and they are treating Hibs fans with little respect. If they can't sell this to Blackpool Hibs (no offence meant) then he is right in saying that they are "dead in the water" which in itself is disappointing. They had a chance to do something positive and blew it.
Gogs has attacked people on here with a bitter post on a rival site yet we should ignore that? There's a big difference between an attack and an explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
Ah yes its all the admins fault again - I forgot.
That's a fair point, although it is something that could be stopped right now if hibileaks buyhibs and HOH would just give us a straight answer to a straight question.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
No, I'm afraid it's too simple to blame one group. Yes, BuyHibs should be able to accept rigorous scrutiny, and HoH the same, but not the playground bully tactics to shout down anyone who supports them. As said above, let's all take some responsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Is this the start of the 'blame hibs.net' campaign that seems to be gathering a bit momentum elsewhere regarding what looks increasingly like BuyHibs failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
Dear God. Can't people just give it a rest for a few days?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Just stop. The OP was surely an appeal for calm, not yet more mud slinging??
Have you put this to BuyHibs too, because we've got to the stage where they're dishing out thinly veiled threats. A poster on the Bounce thinks that these thinly veiled threats have put our "gas at a peep" but that's certainly not the case. We'll keep asking the pertinent questions and they'll no doubt continue to ignore them.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
See above.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
Don't be silly Ronnie, get the steelies on and grab a baseball bat and take a side, tis the way ahead. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
Bully tactics? What total nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
An appeal for calm that contained a not so subtle dig.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
Sorry but why shouldn't the admins be allowed an opinion. We all have our own views and opinions, we are all Hibs supporters and we are all as entitled to have our views heard as anyone else. If people feel any of us has gone too far then report it and it will dealt with same as anyone else. It's probably worth noting I can count on 1 hand how many reported posts there has been on this topic which is somewhat remarkable given how emotive an issue it is. There's been a few 'pre emptive' post deletions dealing with personal abuse which isn't neccessary. I'd agree the last week or so has descended into quite a sad state of affairs but if an individual chooses to make a pretty scathing attack on both the site and the admin teams as individuals are we not entitles to defend ourselves? Would you allow your character to be questioned without right of reply?
I've made this point a lot lately but .net is a wide range of views. Outwith ER on a Saturday it is the biggest gathering of Hibs fans in one place anywhere. That's a lot of views and a lot of personalities. On the whole we have tried to let the discussion follow it's natural course and there has been no strategic efforts to force it one way as has been claimed elsewhere. I'll be damned if I'm going to allow someone to attempt to rubbish me and people I like and respect elsewhere without replying to it though, if that makes me childish, petty or whatever else then so be it.
Admins are entitled to post their own opinions, of course - though why I'm saying I don't know, you make the rules. IMO you guys do a good job running this place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I am not above pettiness myself... just trying to put a lid on it before replying to Andy74 above. :wink:
I just thought you were reading more into that post than was there. Apologies if I misread it. :aok:
No doubt about it. I've seen a few unedifying episodes on here recently, where people have been attacked or belittled for expressing an honest opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
You'll dismiss this in the same way you've dismissed my post, but maybe things would improve if EVERYBODY took a little more time to listen to others' views?
Disagreeing with someone's opinion isn't the same as a personal attack - although there are some who appear to take it that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
I've seen lots of questioning and then reaction to those questions not being answered. I've seen people being asked to back up scaremongering and accusations that have been made.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
The worst stuff has been the recent posts by RIP here and on the main board where it became personal and abusive. Posts were made on other sites about users here. That has led to some defending of views and positions.
I haven't seen any bullying of BuyHibs or HoH members or supporters. Just lots of challenge as I mentioned above. Others are trying to make this into various us v them situations and it's very poor.
Oh the irony!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
I'm not expecting you to agree with me. Just saying that IMO it's got a bit out of hand at times, from both sides, and it's something that maybe we can all reflect on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
This is not a dig at the admins! As I said above, they do a good job overall.
At least you saw it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
Some people's posts, mine included, have been correcting downright lies about certain events and the people involved. If that is classed as "abuse" then heaven help us.
It is also interesting to note that some of those who cast aspertions on their fellow fans characters never return and back up/explain/clarify their 'claims'. They just launch a grenade in (on both forums) and watch the fall-out. That's pretty sad, IMHO.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
We do have the ability to go in and set you two to ignore each other :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor