That would need their administration to last that long.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
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That would need their administration to last that long.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
Thanks. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Really? Couldn't they factor that into the price of the CVA? Make part of the price contingent?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
The wheatfield stand is almost 20 years old now.I remember hearing that these newer stands only had a lifespan of 25/30 years dunno why?
anyone know?
They'll find a T rex when they finally flatten the old old stand.
They're gonna end up playing at the pentlands.
Don't follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
If the UKIO administration is wound up in, say, 5 years, who would collect the additional money?
More chance of me replacing Locke tomorrowQuote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Oh, interesting concept can I have some time t think on that with my large Cognac ?Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
Anything is possible if everyone agrees.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Is it because they made them from bus shelter material and then painted them pink?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
Although to be fair bus shelters seem to last three decades... Maybe they used cheap knock offs.
I suppose there are examples of compensation funds being set up and administered for many years after the original event.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Here's another failed bank that took years to unpick:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of..._International
After yesterday i bet they wished they had gone into liquidation
Nah, yesterday was all about capitulationQuote:
Originally Posted by weonlywon6-2
It's time to sit back and enjoy the ride.:party:
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Originally Posted by Waxy
Maybe the case with their "newer" stands. Pretty sure their three combined stands cost about the same as our main stand to build.
Cheap and nasty wee place.
When did they build the retro stand?
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Originally Posted by PatHead
I think it might have had its centenary at some point last season?
Do you really think that the Ukio administration will be tied up in less than five years? $300million lost, alleged fraudulent transactions?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
The Lithuanian Government?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
They made good the money stolen to bankroll the yams and its they who hired the administrators.
Their core support is 5000+ if the seventies are any evidence. I suspect it will be lower once the cheating is fully flushed out and they have to sign players at wage levels they can actually pay with revenue they earn from gates, sponsors, cake baking and face painting. The pledges will last about as long as bag of weed at the Burning Man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Their scarf twirling is merely a subconscious emulation of a floating turd swirling around the toilet before going down.
All of this PLUS - for some unfathomable reason (but it is the Yams so no great surprise), they think they'll be 'back to what they were' despite not having access to the levels of money they've been used to. These days to save arguing I just tell any of them to Google their results, gates etc BEFORE Mercer started the 'Money-Years' - when they last played within their means and had players they COULD afford - were no different to all other clubs outside of the OF, and, if anything, were on a gradual 'Downward Slope'. Hearts without money are just Hearts - not 'Big', not 'Famous' and not worth bothering about.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...iful-1-3218030
Bob has replied in the comments...seems a little unhinged!
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenLake
Did anyone else start humming the Star Wars imperial march when reading the username 'imperial echoes' :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by mchibee
Lets face it, BDO aren't in it to save the club.they'll get paid regardless.
I remember something about the limited lifespan, can't remember the details, but I always assumed it was because they were a heap of *****. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
GGTTH
Just heard on radio forth that another consortium has come in to try and get the shares and foh are no happy as this could scupper the cva
So bob reckons FOH have been sold a dud, and it was wise to wait until you could buy the shares before attempting to do a cva. Reckons once he buys the shares then he will do a deal. Anyone know if this makes any sense at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by mchibee
I see wee shauny has replied to him, **** me that boy is a fanny
Yes, I heard that too. Let's just sit back and let the fireworks begin :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by weonlywon6-2
They have realised that this can't drag on into March April time or they are dead.So another consortium that can offer creditors something may be there best bet .Think Administrators behind the scenes will be encouraging that but publicly keeping fans on board as at present it's the fans money that's keeping them going The fans bought into the cheating years so now they are going to find out the hard way they can't afford to buy the club Think over new year there will be further twists in this sordid soap opera Can't wait for the next installmentQuote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
Fears that Hear7s could be liquidated.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...-bid-1-3218185
It's only a matter of time before our friends apply for the pink palace to be "A" listed.
They'll be very jealous of this magnificent structure.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...tland-25183708
Is it just me or does that MP look like humpty dumpty ?, it shows you the yams mentality when they deride someone who might offer the Lith government some cash that they were cheated out of.I don't know what game mad Boab is up to but even if a relatively small amount of money was offered for the UBIG shares then that is better than they would get from FOH ?.
Jeez, they are worried about a Walter Mitty Character. FFS they idolised and lived off the villainy of the biggest fantasist of all. Who was stealing other peoples money whilst promising them Champions League wins, megasuperhotelstadiums etc?............Quote:
Originally Posted by Www1875hfc
Come on Bob, the shares aint worth nothing, they are worth what a buyer will pay, you might even end up owning a basket case of a football club.
This. Mon Uncle Boab. Stick it too themQuote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
Pleasing very pleasing. :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by Www1875hfc
I have no doubt he's a tad unhinged but it doesn't mean he's completely wrong in his comments re BDO. I've posted on here before that IMO BDO have allowed themselves to get too close to Yams, less Stockholm & more PBS syndrome! I think an incredible propaganda exercise has been perpetrated, starting with Southern's blatant lies re self-sufficiency & continuing today with the eager acquiescence of the MSM. At least Shoeless Bob may provoke a more public debate re the Silence of the Yams.Quote:
Originally Posted by mchibee
ongoing pleasingness
The reply to Shaun Lawson post is hilarious...
'FAO Sideshow Bob/Imperial Echoes/The Captain/whatever username you feel like coming up with next,
You are a joke. A laughing stock. And Heart of Midlothian Football Club, its supporters and its administrators have come far too far over the last few difficult months for you to waste even another second of our, your or anyone else's time with this disgraceful nonsense.
Do us all a favour, get out of the damn way, and leave us in peace. There's a good fantasist.
Yours helpfully, etc etc.'
:faf:Quote:
Says the Norfolk based Hearts fan , who still stays with his Mum...and has been to about 3 games.
Forgive us if we don't take your post too seriously.
Spot on about the Admins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
Yes but it is his basket case of a football club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
I agree hardly wait until the debate starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
Shaun owned by Cuddly Bob :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
Time to sit back with beers and popcorn, watching the fans argue amongst themselves over the next few days is going to be hilarious.
I fear Bobs bid may hit the buffers when he asks UBIG admins what bus he gets from Vilnius airport to the centre of town.
Another insight to your average yams perspective on this, their arrogance knows no bounds this from a roaster on keekback as the EN dares to print Boabs slaverings
"Thats what annoys me. A local paper with the interests of the local people and the sporting establishments within that community should be doing all that they can to show this clown up for what he really is."
WTF does that care about 'LOCAL' people mean after what they've done. LOCAL businesses and charities not getting paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
Pot and Kettle me thinks.
They think everyone should sympathise with them. Nah GIRFUY ya bunch of hypocritical cheating thieving stains.
:top marksI would drive him there if he requires.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treadstone
I think the EEN are doing a fine job in this regard... at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
what was the een reaction to mercer like when he caused all his trouble. didnt read news papers at that age, all i really remember is going to a rally and me asking my dad why we were there and him saying that i might not be able to watch hibs anymore, apparently i ment mental and told him there was no way i was going to watch dundee whom he supported.
Provided he's not interested in Tynecastle and he has the cash then an offer of £500k each to Ubig and Ukio with Ukio keeping the PBS would see him win the day? Any reason why this would not be the case?
I see from Keechbag that the majority (by number) of shareholders received their notice of last Friday's meeting today. That means the meeting was not properly convened and the decision is potentially void.
Wonder if shoeless Bob only got his letter today? He's the most likely to complain. I'm assuming he is a shareholder?Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
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Originally Posted by Caversham Green
That would indeed be .....
Pleasing.
:greengrin
Oh dear ! but waitQuote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
That may be the Trojan Horse that lets Cuddly Bob, or whomever he represents, in the game !Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
F O H had one thing to do. Send the letters out in time and they could not even do THAT right and BDO expect them to run a football club. Be as well heading to liquidation now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
Wasn't FOH's job.Quote:
Originally Posted by southsider
It was BDO responsibility to send out the notices of the meeting on time.Quote:
Originally Posted by southsider
And they are on £ 500,00 fees, Star Administrators my a***.
If they make it to January, a whole load of their 'prized assets' will be able to speak to other clubs and sign pre-contract agreements to go elsewhere in the summer.
Holt, Walker and McGowan are among them.
If McGowan is a prized asset things are even worse for them than I thought! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
I guess if Hearts want to hold on to these future ahem stars they can offer them a new contract? Or do they have to wait until they exit admin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
Source:
"BDO are already having a difficult time dealing with UBIG. They have been as awkward as possible already. This isn't helping. They are worried UBIG will think they are trying to pull a fast one"
i should also add that they told me the current kitty will keep them going til March (Which we already knew) but that BDO think they can make the end of the season if needs be.
Is Shoeless' whole modus not something along the lines of a Tiny-replacing greenbelt-puncturing property deal? I would've thought the value of the Tiny site (watch it go up exponentially when it suits them) would be key to that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
...which chimes with something that Bryan J said about Jamieson. That BDO know he's not up to it, but UBIG don't necessarily know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Let's face it, they wouldn't be the only ones!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
I see a chinese team want the tatooed freakshow in JanuaryQuote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
What does it matter to UBIG. If he can produce the cash but can't tie his shoelaces, why should they be bothered?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Can he produce the cash though?Quote:
Originally Posted by God Petrie
BDO rejected him as a bidder months ago. IIRC, they didn't go into specifics about why, but the assumption is that FOH's bid was better (not necessarily bigger, admittedly). The comments from Bryan J today suggest that they didn't treat him as a serious contender.
Has always sounded to me like BDO (and the MSM) wanted the FoH bid to be the best one as the Zeitgeist seems to be to favour fan-led rescue operations and fan-run clubs. So, reading between the lines, there may have been an unconscious bias operating towards wanting it to be the only or the best, and, therefore, preferred, bid and slanting everything towards trying to "prove" that it was the only game in town.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
The UBIG admins have other things on their mind and won't, therefore, be swayed by what might be the best outcome for an old, Scottish sporting institution down on its uppers and possibly wheezing its last.
Just an observation FWIW.
Sounds like BDO have made a right mess of this admin :agree:
Mon' Sideshow Bob :thumbsup:
Wonder what oot Boab's going to do with that item in his hand?? Mmm
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I'd put their core support at 4,500.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLake
Anybody fancy going lower?
I get the impression BDO thought things would go a lot smoother than they have done. When the FOH submitted their bid they didn't have a plan B because they didn't think relegation was a realistic possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I know for sure BDO also weren't expecting the finances to be this problematic though. Staff said they would work for free/reduced wages but eventually in September they started threatening to leave if they didn't start getting back to normal. BDO is guilty of taking the fans and staff goodwill for granted.
I'm told Hearts still live in a very hand to mouth fashion as it stands. BDO and FOH expected them to be on a more steady financial footing by now albeit with their cloth cut accordingly.
One last thing. Apparently when talking to UKIO there's been a lot of goodwill internally towards BDO and FOH because there is an emotional tie there (something UKIO alluded to in their statement). UBIG is the polar opposite. The feeling there is one of intense resentment after the directors bolted and left it rudderless for so long.
I think that BDO might have to cut staff expenses, including playing staff, to stretch to the end of the season. If Hearts have a terrible December, and are all but relegated, revenue from fans will start to drop. It won't matter for ST holders, but walk-ups will be deterred by the lost cause, the empty seats and moribund atmosphere in the stadium. It could precipitate a January sales practical giveaway to generate enough cash to get to the May finishing line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
The ubiquitous fear.
The UBIG quit us fear.
Sales from playing staff is their best hope. Apparently the club is already run on a skeleton staff as it is and a couple have even taken second jobs elsewhere just to make ends meet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Approx. 3000 . Harry Potters testimonial. So embarrassing they had to draft in us to save face for a second bite at the cherry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
That could be the sweetest way to finish them off. Sensible offers for their best players, a company struggling to pay bills could hardly refuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Totally sap the morale of the support, and make deny them even the faintest glimmer of enjoyment for the rest of the season.
Here's a view of the strategy of the splendidly-named Bob from a roster, sorry poster, on Kickback:
1. Offer UBIG £500k for their (50%) shares which would give him control.
2. Then negotiate with UKIO for theirs.
3. Offer Tynecastle for immediate sale as the CVA
4. Move to Livingston
5. Build a new 24k all seated stadium on the west side of the city once planning in place.
One...check. Two...yip. Three...sound. Four...ouch, gotcha. Five...:faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:
I'm keeping the Gary MacKay testimonial figures up my sleeve...Quote:
Originally Posted by Treadstone
How many would command a fee of note? Any players who's contracts are up at the end of the season could simply sign a pre-contract with other clubs. Those with 6 months remaining aren't going to command vast transfer sums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
Tesco put it best when they say "Every little helps".Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
You know a lot more than me mate. But if it WAS my company i would have made sure they reached the people that were due them even if i had to do it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
unless of course only having the people you knew were going to vote the way you wanted was a better option. "No our fault Royal Mail are crap" is a tried and tested excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by southsider
For Hearts I would say "Every helper's little".Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
They'd struggle to get more than a few grand, but they'd also lower the wage bill with a smaller squad. However, if they do this then fans will perceive that they've given up on this season, and ask why they should be bothered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
An interesting, dilemma, Mister Bond.
You don't have to wait, the revenue from from fans is dropping like a stone already. Gifting fatigue has well and truly set in. That will have a good enough reason to get rid of whoever they can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
It matters a bit because BDO are honouring 7,000 season tickets even though the money from them disappeared before Hearts went into admin. So that's 7,000 punters who need stewarding and policing every other week without any benefit to the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Unless they are getting sufficient walk-ups to compensate for this, they're probably operating Tynecastle at a loss right now. Maybe they should just close all the stands and play their home fixtures in front of an empty stadium?? :wink:
Pure gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
If Mr Lawson wants to know what disgraceful nonsense looks like, any of his wordy essays in support of Vlad or denigrating Hibs would do.
As bizarre as it seems, at least to some extent this might actually be forced on them! Or at least a relocation of ST's into two "new" stands and shutting down the Asbo stand, in order to lower police and stewarding costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
They have little chance of knowing as their income stream is unknown and most certainly unstable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Liquidators should have no feelings or emotions when getting the best deal for the creditors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
All players will be for sale at almost any price in the first weeks of 2014.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Hibs should bid for Patterson !Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
Vast no, but beggars cannot be choosers apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
4499 if Boabs no allowed back :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
UBIG Admin's wife: "Do you think BDO are trying to pull a fast one?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
UBIG Admin: "Does a bear sh&t in the woods?"
Poor old Shoeshine Bob is in big trouble now. Fatty Foulkes is promising Barry Anderson and Jambos Kickback that he is going to 'take action' against him.
I'm intrigued and massively mirthful trying to discern exactly what this 'action' might constitute.
Any ideas?
Slaver complete and utter P1sh and bore him to death??Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Where is he threatening that - on JKB, in the comments section of EEN or on twitter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
@BarryAnderson_8: Back in the office after a few days off duty to find yet another email from Bob Jamieson. I really wonder what this man is playing at. #HMFC
@BarryAnderson_8: If Jamieson wants the best for #Hearts, let @The_FoH & BDO get on with negotiations. Sending daft offers to Lithuania is only be detrimental
@BarryAnderson_8: @jamiekborthwick Reading them can be entertaining, but this latest stunt is nothing short of dangerous.
@BarryAnderson_8: @jamiekborthwick Reading them can be entertaining, but this latest stunt is nothing short of dangerous.
@GeorgeFoulkes: @mattleslie74 @jamb0skickback @BarryAnderson_8 You're right. Will take action.Quote:
Originally Posted by steakbake
If Bob is the real deal then this is quite a novel way for AllIsBarry to resign!Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
*****Urgent Crotch Spotting Alert*****Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Would be hilarious if Shoeless Bob does somehow end up as owner of Hearts and AllisBarry is dispatched to interview him about his plans...Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperAllyMcleod
Pishy's got the Lithuanian ambassador on speed dial has he not? Time for an ill-advised, half-cut, vaguely threatening voice mail. That'll sort it!!Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
All Is Barry: "I was one of the very first people who said that Bob Jamieson was entertaining. And I've always believed that his moves to buy Heart were very dangerous, for Hibs, other teams in Scotland, and indeed, Europe."Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
I thoroughly enjoy your insightful posts BJ. Safe to say that 'our' BJ is better than 'their' BJ at giving us the whole picture of goings on at the PBS.
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Originally Posted by Sergey
Could they turn down an offer of £50 k for Patterson? If they do, make their supporters suffer more by a very slow bidding process, before making them an offer they can't turn down, like £51k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
I think he will "do something about it", or tell Bob, to "stop it immediately". That's the sort of clout Foukes has, you know?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
So what you are saying is the detail from a Hibs BJ is easier to swallow? :-oQuote:
Originally Posted by CyberSauzee
Bob will just send a couple of E European thugs to have a word with old pishy breeks, IIRC he didnae fare too well the last time he was confronted by such characters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls