Tories are still lying *******s

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08-08-2021, 10:16 AM
Jack

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Sarah Vine writing in the mail on Sunday that Thatcher was well ahead of her time in shutting the coal mines in the 80s, she was doing this because of concern for the climate, and apparently ‘theLeft’ need to understand this. Michael Goves ex wife, so apparently serious comment :dunno: So this is now an actual Tory argument.

Like so many things they're rewriting history.
08-08-2021, 10:40 AM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Sarah Vine writing in the mail on Sunday that Thatcher was well ahead of her time in shutting the coal mines in the 80s, she was doing this because of concern for the climate, and apparently ‘theLeft’ need to understand this. Michael Goves ex wife, so apparently serious comment :dunno: So this is now an actual Tory argument.

BBC will de digging out all their old clips of Thatch being passionate about the environment.
08-08-2021, 10:45 AM
Moulin Yarns

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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

BBC will de digging out all their old clips of Thatch being passionate about the environment.

https://theecologist.org/2018/oct/17/who-drove-thatchers-climate-change-u-turn

I've done the job for them 😉
08-08-2021, 11:22 AM
Stairway 2 7

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Sarah Vine writing in the mail on Sunday that Thatcher was well ahead of her time in shutting the coal mines in the 80s, she was doing this because of concern for the climate, and apparently ‘theLeft’ need to understand this. Michael Goves ex wife, so apparently serious comment :dunno: So this is now an actual Tory argument.

It's ****ing bizarre. I'm not sure if they are thick or they think we are, or both
08-08-2021, 11:26 AM
Hibrandenburg

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Sarah Vine writing in the mail on Sunday that Thatcher was well ahead of her time in shutting the coal mines in the 80s, she was doing this because of concern for the climate, and apparently ‘theLeft’ need to understand this. Michael Goves ex wife, so apparently serious comment :dunno: So this is now an actual Tory argument.

Aye, and she had the Belgrano sunk to provide an environment for endangered aquatic species.
08-08-2021, 11:26 AM
Ozyhibby

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

It's ****ing bizarre. I'm not sure if they are thick or they think we are, or both

Jury still out on people in England who keep returning them to power to be honest and on us for letting another country decide our leaders for us.

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08-08-2021, 11:29 AM
Lendo

It’s so worrying just how little the truth matters any more.

Right-wingers are so keen to talk about “cancel culture” yet that is precisely what we are seeing here, rewriting history. The right wing sheep lap it up.
08-08-2021, 11:36 AM
Killiehibbie

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Sarah Vine writing in the mail on Sunday that Thatcher was well ahead of her time in shutting the coal mines in the 80s, she was doing this because of concern for the climate, and apparently ‘theLeft’ need to understand this. Michael Goves ex wife, so apparently serious comment :dunno: So this is now an actual Tory argument.

I have it on good authority that Thatcher was more concerned with preventing the premature deaths of miners.
08-08-2021, 11:48 AM
Moulin Yarns

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Secretary.html

Warning, contains disturbing images.
08-08-2021, 12:00 PM
Lendo

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Secretary.html

Warning, contains disturbing images.

Odd that migrant boats crossing the channel wasn’t an issue before Brexit.

It almost feels like we had a successful partnership with France in helping deal with these issues in a far safer way.
08-08-2021, 12:22 PM
Kato

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Sarah Vine writing in the mail on Sunday that Thatcher was well ahead of her time in shutting the coal mines in the 80s, she was doing this because of concern for the climate, and apparently ‘theLeft’ need to understand this. Michael Goves ex wife, so apparently serious comment :dunno: So this is now an actual Tory argument.

That made me laugh, really takes the biscuit.

Any working person supporting this lot, either directly or indirectly, might as well get the smocks on, have a bit straw hanging out their mouths and get practicing their bowing, scraping and forelock touching.

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08-08-2021, 12:53 PM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by Killiehibbie

I have it on good authority that Thatcher was more concerned with preventing the premature deaths of miners.

Yep, she sent well paid heavily armed police into assault them with foam filled truncheons so as to minimise injuries to just broken bones and cuts.

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09-08-2021, 05:11 PM
Billy Whizz

Programme on this on BBC 1 tonight at 7.35pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58149765
09-08-2021, 10:00 PM
Kato

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

Programme on this on BBC 1 tonight at 7.35pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58149765

A bare-faced con. Right in front of everyones eyes.
10-08-2021, 06:50 AM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by Kato

A bare-faced con. Right in front of everyones eyes.

Presumably aired to distract from the bare-faced cons of the current incumbents? (I tried to watch but fell asleep halfway through, it all seemed so run-of-the-mill.)
10-08-2021, 06:32 PM
hibsbollah

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58151615

She blew£37 billion (yes Billion with a b) pounds on a system that the Public Accounts Committee says ‘made no measureable impact’. Gets to step down from her role with another plum job waiting in the wings.

Just as well it wasn’t Corbyn in charge though.
10-08-2021, 07:14 PM
Hibrandenburg

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58151615

She blew£37 billion (yes Billion with a b) pounds on a system that the Public Accounts Committee says ‘made no measureable impact’. Gets to step down from her role with another plum job waiting in the wings.

Just as well it wasn’t Corbyn in charge though.

It's an utterly incredible amount of money. I think the Channel Tunnel only cost £21 billion to complete.
10-08-2021, 08:41 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

It's an utterly incredible amount of money. I think the Channel Tunnel only cost £21 billion to complete.

Thats a good comparison. But I like to think of it as £1 million. Multiplied by 37,000. Beyond comprehension. Also equivalent to somewhere in the region of half a million ‘council’ houses for the UKs homeless.
10-08-2021, 09:46 PM
Jack

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Thats a good comparison. But I like to think of it as £1 million. Multiplied by 37,000. Beyond comprehension. Also equivalent to somewhere in the region of half a million ‘council’ houses for the UKs homeless.

1 million seconds is 11 and a half days.
1 billion seconds is almost 32 years!
10-08-2021, 10:00 PM
Hibrandenburg

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Thats a good comparison. But I like to think of it as £1 million. Multiplied by 37,000. Beyond comprehension. Also equivalent to somewhere in the region of half a million ‘council’ houses for the UKs homeless.

Or nearly £560 pounds per man, woman and child, and that for what is basically an App.
10-08-2021, 10:26 PM
Ozyhibby

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

Or nearly £560 pounds per man, woman and child, and that for what is basically an App.

What I’d like to know is, who’s bank account is that £37bn sitting in now?

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10-08-2021, 10:41 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

What I’d like to know is, who’s bank account is that £37bn sitting in now?

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BBC is far too busy reporting on ‘kids getting slightly better exam results than last year’ breaking news.
10-08-2021, 11:23 PM
Kato

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

What I’d like to know is, who’s bank account is that £37bn sitting in now?

Only found out today why Dido's venture is always being referred to as "NHS Track and Trace".

"NHS Track and Trace" is the name given to it by the Govt even though it is a completely private enterprise and nothing to do with the NHS at all.
11-08-2021, 06:37 AM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by Kato

Only found out today why Dido's venture is always being referred to as "NHS Track and Trace".

"NHS Track and Trace" is the name given to it by the Govt even though it is a completely private enterprise and nothing to do with the NHS at all.

Yes, it's all along been the UKGov's intention to imply that the massive public spend is on a public organisation, rather than public money being poured into chums'/party donors' pockets.
11-08-2021, 02:40 PM
Killiehibbie

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

What I’d like to know is, who’s bank account is that £37bn sitting in now?

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I'd like to see the itemised bill.
11-08-2021, 06:21 PM
Smartie

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

What I’d like to know is, who’s bank account is that £37bn sitting in now?

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Father Ted’s.
11-08-2021, 06:29 PM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by Kato

Only found out today why Dido's venture is always being referred to as "NHS Track and Trace".

"NHS Track and Trace" is the name given to it by the Govt even though it is a completely private enterprise and nothing to do with the NHS at all.

Any idea what the company is called?

Dido herself doesn't appear to be a director of anything, FWIW.
11-08-2021, 07:04 PM
Kato

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Any idea what the company is called?

Dido herself doesn't appear to be a director of anything, FWIW.

https://www.serco.com
11-08-2021, 07:12 PM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by Kato

https://www.serco.com

Ta.

She's not on their Board either.
11-08-2021, 07:28 PM
Kato

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Ta.

She's not on their Board either.

From her wiki

Head of NHS Test and Trace
In office
7 May 2020 – 1 May 2021
Prime Minister Boris Johnson
Preceded by Office established
Succeeded by Jenny Harries

...also....

Chair of NHS Improvement
Incumbent
Assumed office
9 October 2017

On leave of absence since 17 June 2021,

with Sir Andrew Morris acting in the interim
Prime Minister Theresa May
Boris Johnson
Deputy Richard Douglas
Preceded by Ed Smith

So it seems she moved on, or back, or to the side - however it is they wangle it.

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