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Your know where a man wears make up and unicorn wings with a little mini skirt on and try's to walk like a woman wearing high heels and ripped tights, that kind of trans costume. It is a costume.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias
Many examples here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKfkzsgZQWQ
OK so you're a transphobe. Understood.Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
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"Virtue signalling" used as a negative context.....Sort of gives away your opinions without any other comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
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Does it really? Can you please tell me in what situation you can use virtue signalling in a positive context?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
So cross dreasing then. Not anything to do with transgender.Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
Yeah but the chances are that he dislikes both of these groups!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias
No i think you will find that trans people do not consider themselves as cross dressers and most would find it very insulting to be called that! Are you sure its not you who holds the ignorant views when thinking of the trans movement?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias
The ignorance is strong with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
No, from the posts that you have been putting up here I would suggest you are the ignorant and intolerant oneQuote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
Not at all, mines are based on who is attending the anti trump protests.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
I have no beef with trans people but i think they get fair too much coverage in the media and politicians. That's not being intolerant.
Are you saying that trans people have no reason to be at the protests?Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
And how much coverage would be appropriate?
OK I'm confused. I asked you what a trans costume was. You replied: "Your know where a man wears make up and unicorn wings with a little mini skirt on and try's to walk like a woman wearing high heels and ripped tights, that kind of trans costume. It is a costume"Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
So I ask again, what is a trans costume, with you having so effectively argued against your own point in the reply quoted above.
It's your implication that these politicians don't have genuine virtue...and your offence at support for some minorities that strikes the negative context for meQuote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
Are you doing a Cathy Newman impression? No I did not say that, i merely pointed out that they make up a fair number of the anti trump protestors, along with communists and middle class virtue signalling protestors.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
The way the media paints the picture is that these people represent the views of the nation and they do not and they are far from it IMO.
No i think your jumping the gun. I didnt say trans people should not get support, i said the level of attention from politicians and the media is too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
Why does it bother you? Ps not jumping the gun..you are implying "faux- virtue" from some...Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
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A trans costume would be something is not normal daily clothing. It exaggerates certain features or have a certain theme, usually very sexualized with over the top make up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias
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Originally Posted by HomeTeam
I think you misunderstood my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
What would be an appropriate level of attention for trans men and women, and their rights?
Id say when it gets to the point where children are having sex changes before they are allowed to grow up and also giving children drugs that stop puberty so they can 'make their mind up' about whether or not they are trans is a sign that the trans movement / agenda is getting too much sway with politician's.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
You clearly do not have the first scooby what you're on about. If you're going to troll, at least be consistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
I have described a costume. I'm not sure what else you are looking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias
Care to give an example of where these specific points have held sway with a politician?Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
You described an outfit worn by someone of any gender or sexuality taking part in Pride, perhaps clubbing, or on a protest march like this. It's hardly a "trans costume".Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
The transgender people I know wear the type of clothing that you or I would wear.
Just so you know. :wink:
Can I ask a silly question?
Does the term "trans" refer to transsexual (ie someone who has had a sex change operation) or transvestite (as I understand it a man who dresses as a woman, without having had any form of surgery to change their gender)?
These days, it refers to one who is a different gender from that with which they were born. Transgender.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
"Transvestite" has been replaced by "cross-dressing", to avoid the confusion you mention.
Now commonly taken to refer transgender (either post or pre-op), and specifically concerned with an individuals gender identification. Transvestite isn't really used nowadays - cross dressing or drag more commonly describes wearing clothes associated with the opposite gender.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Thank you both for the clarification.
I wonder if this fairly easily made mistake is to blame for some of what we see higher up this page?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantomime_dameQuote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
That's 2 mentions tonight for Stanley Baxter [emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Fleece
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I'm no fan of Donald Trump but if we can welcome the leaders of countries such as China and Saudi Arabia to the UK, who are responsible for some of the worst human rights abuses on the planet, and on a scale that is far worse than anything that Donald Trump has ever done, then I'm sure I'll cope with the President of the USA being in the country for a few days.
Where were all the mass protests when we had the visit from Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman of Saudi Arabia earlier this year or when President Xi Jinping of China came over in 2015? The governments of both of these countries allow atrocities to be committed against their own people on a daily basis and yet I don't remember their presence in the UK causing such controversy.
Some people really need to get a grip.