:agree: King is going to have to wheel out some of his off the radar billions for the fights ahead.Quote:
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:agree: King is going to have to wheel out some of his off the radar billions for the fights ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by magpie1892
Not what I'm saying at all. 😋Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr White
So many tawdry characters in this tale. At least JJ admits he got it wrong, although deflects attention from that with an attack on Keith Jackson (who is a bellend of the highest order himself, of course).Quote:
Originally Posted by Treadstone
A reply woohoo. Any comment on my post of last week pointing out that more teams have won major trophies in scotland in the last 5 years than any other 5 year period for several decades? You've ignored it twice already :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
http://www.onfieldsofgreen.com/king-...or-a-lifetime/
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Bad day for Fat Mike.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/...P=share_btn_fb
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
The postal order is in the post.
The Buckie will be flowing in Govan tonight. Cashley will be licking his wounds but is he a big enough rat to bite back or will he quietly make his way back to the sewer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Treadstone
And they probably heard it today in Court like the rest of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
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No, you said Scottish Football will rue the day Mike Ashley got involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
Notwithstanding the fact that MA may be an odious character, he is one of the few people with the balls to take on the Rangers and the SFA at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cropley10
The effects of that may actually be beneficial to the game up here.
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Negative for rangers, good or worst case neutral for Scottish football imo.
Just read a Tweet showing a "reclaiming motion " by Chucky against RIFC, to be heard next week .
Not sure if that's his appeal.
Ozy?
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Originally Posted by Mr White
Looks like a third time you've ignored this hibs0666. You going to keep trolling this thread or give up on it now?
That's great!Quote:
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
http://www.adjudication.org/sites/de...tish_terms.pdf
Its an application for a review by the inner house, an appeal i'd guess ! :agree:
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Originally Posted by hibs0666
You've picked the bits of Lord nimmo smiths report that suits your position and ignored the parts that don't. You've also ignored any posts that question your position and blow your arguments to pieces. I don't doubt you're a hibs fan but I wonder why you're trolling this forum as I don't believe your posts reflect your true opinions. If they do I'd have more respect for them if you'd bothered to respond to the posts that point out the flaws in your posts.
Simple answer is to add him to your ignore list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr White
I don't use the ignore function. I'm fascinated by ignorance :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Golden Fleece
The former (from the Buckie ref onwards). And then some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
As I said before, grab the popcorn. He's going to do some serious damage.
Someone will correct if I'm wrong here, but didn't the 3 cuddly teddy bears try and pay the loan of a few weeks ago, but because the deadline for repayment had passed MA refused it to keep ahold of the assets from the loan agreementQuote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
That was only speculation on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by wills
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Today's newspapers show the true class of Rangers. Is there any other club where "Chairman not jailed" is headline news?
Haha. Yes. And it be a positive story ! :-).Quote:
Originally Posted by ballengeich
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See my specultion in post #32297 about default.Quote:
Originally Posted by wills
Investing? As in looking to make a return?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
So, people are more likely to invest - spend money to make money - if Rangers are part of the show, and by that, a strong Rangers?
That makes no sense whatsoever unless you're talking about investing in Rangers.
If you're talking about TV money and Sponsors, of course they're only interested in two teams Rangers and Celtic, and that's because they can show the hatred live on TV.
And of course these two Clubs always took the lions share of income. Sounds like you want to get straight back to that point.
Either that, or you're a troll.
I've no idea why you're trolling me but each to their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cropley10
The picture of Scottish that you paint is about as depressing as it gets. I happen to think that we can progress and grow the game in ways that do not rely on bigotry, and we can get companies to engage with the game based upon positive outcomes and behaviours and not on the old firm freakshow.
However, to progress in that fashion requires Scottish clubs, supporters and governing authorities to work collaboratively for the common good. As far as the huns situation is concerned it is a matter of historic relevance only, and the parties involved will get to know the Scottish judicial system very well over the coming months and years. But that's all it is - a matter of history.
If we are to better Scottish football we have to live in the here and now and goodness knows we do not have our problems to seek. Our national team is down to 52 in the world just behind Gambia and Trinidad. Our clubs are hardly worth a mention in a European context. The stadia of most of our clubs lie half empty from week to week, as these clubs struggle to hold on to the best of their talent even beyond the teenage years.
And yet guys - perhaps even you - think it's all about the Rangers. I'm sorry but I fundamentally disagree.
Going back to your point it is great that there has been greater diversity on the winners rostrum (apart from the gunts of course), and that has been achieved as the overall quality in the game has diminished.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr White
I'd much rather see a game that is thriving and is improving in quality, and we will be unable to create that platform for quality improvement until the Scottish football civil war comes to an end.
Yeah but surely working for the common good means getting things right from the start..One mans living in the here and now is another's brushing things under the carpet..Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
That's a fair point. My concern however is that things revert to the status quo rather than any of the positive things you mention happening. I suspect that's the preference of a lot of our games administrators (no pun intended) and imo that goes hand in hand with sweeping the rangers issue under the carpet.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
As for the current state of our game, I don't think we'd be in any better position had the rangers meltdown not occurred or had it been handled differently. In fact I suspect things would be even worse.
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I'd agree with all of this but for one thing...... The Huns just don't believe the bit in bold, if they did then I'm 100% with you :aok:
Is Ozy going to be keeping us up to date today ? :greengrin
Counsel for Sports Direct and RFC are understood to be "in discussions" so may be a delay in hearing getting underway.
SD Vs RIFC second half about to KO.
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It's not, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
By dealing properly with the Rangers situation (at all levels. Administratively, commercially, culturally), we can reduce the chances of it repeating itself. If we ignore it, it will be back to the status quo before we know it. And that repetition can only be avoided by keeping the pressure on those who have the levers of power..... the clubs, the legal system, the media and the football authorities.
As for "investment", we have just had BT Sport take up the contract for the new League Cup. That has to be a step in the right direction, no? Somebody, somewhere (Doncaster?) has to be given the credit for that.
Let's be clear - Regan and the speccy one work according to the mandate to which they are provided by their member clubs. Therefore the status quo prevails only if those clubs collectively choose for that to happen. Hell mend them if these clubs - including Hibs - allow that to be the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr White
I'd give BT the credit before him :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
It's not a case of ignoring it. IMHO opinion we already know pretty much all that we need to know about failure in governance, culture etc. in order to start on the long journey to a better future.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Except we can't do that because there is no collective desire to make things better, and the only thing that most people passionately care about is the imposition or avoidance of punitive actions for past mis-deeds.
The BT Sport deal was indeed a positive step and I want Scottish football to get to a place where the queue of potential commercial partners is round the block as soon as the SPFL doors are flung open on a Monday morning.
But what has actually been done about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
And for the member clubs to grow a set and see past 4 home games against Celtc and The Rangers as the financial lifeline it has become. This is what facilitated the changes of the 1970's which everyone is now desperately trying to overturn. Until all clubs accept that they are all equal members of the association there can be no positive outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
That's my point - the game is in stasis due to the on-going civil war and nothing can be done until all parties are prepared to move on as reflected by the mood overwhelmingly expressed in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
My point, though, is that we can't properly move on without addressing the issues that have been raised. And that has not happened. Other than the LNS (unpaid) fine, there has been no calling to account.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
It's like Truth and Reconciliation. Without that, the past mistakes are doomed to be repeated.
Something has to change before people move on. What do you suggest?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
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I can see what you are saying in all your posts and agree with some to an extent but the issue for me and thousands of others across the country is, the football association in collaboration with the old firm and related media outlets have completely destroyed our game! We cannot allow it to resolve backwards into its previous state!Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs0666
As fans out with the GFA & Media, we have had to fight for every inch and use online based sites to clearly get our point across and to simply throw it all away just because it would be better for Scottish Football, is a complete red-herring!
I am so disinterested in the Scottish game right now and the only way forward I can see is a complete root and branch clearance of the association and an upheaval of them out of Glasgow into a more neutral venue i.e. Perth. However, until we get transparency and honesty back into our game, this wont occur.
Just a Wee query. The Huns have been spending way out with their means since they were allowed entry to the bottom tier of the SPFL. The spent more than they have for years before that too (in the context of the old Huns). The only reason they're still going is a number of soft loans and share issues. If it goes back to how it was 'for the good of Scottish football' what makes people think they will change? What protection for the game is there that the obvious financial mismanagement of the Hun doesn't continue? Surely the better option is to keep clipping their wings until those that run that horrible institution realise they need to operate on a level playing field? Their aura of self entitlement makes me boak. When one or more teams in a league structure operates like that there will never be a healthy game in Scotland.
That is one of the fundamental issues that needs to be dealt with before we can make any progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by vince1973
Rod told us 2 (3?) years ago at the AGM that FFP was being introduced to our game. Other than tinkering at the edges (eg the points deductions for insolvency), I'm not sure that's happening quickly enough for most people.
Parties coming into court, proceedings due to begin soon
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Parties coming into court, proceedings due to begin soon
Edit, Cheers Ozy
I agree. We have stiffened the penalties for after the event but not put in any preventative measures.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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Proceedings begin. Counsel for Sports Direct rises says both parties agree there should be a "speedy trial" over injunction issue
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Judge "I dont regards March as being a speedy trial"
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Judge says trial will also rule on lawfulness of confidentiality agreement between SD and RFC
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Judge asks if Mr Ashley will be giving evidence at trial?
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Judge "Is Mr Ashley going to blame this for the 11% slide in his shares yesterday?"
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Get in! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Judge "Is Mr Ashley going to blame this for the 11% slide in his shares yesterday?" :greengrin
This judge should get struck off. Class A Ticket
Counsel for Sports Direct says he does not think will be possible to go to trial on January " there is the matter of Xmas day"
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This is a sitcom, right? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Judge says any delay in preparation for the trial "will be dealt with severely"
Sets date for Jan 18
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Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
I think he's been excellent. Got to the heart of the issues.
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Come on you Judge! :greengrin
Counsel for Rangers says he has "no problem" with trial date.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaT9E4bKOXw
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Originally Posted by Dan Sarf
Hes grand standing...no need for the constants quips. His job is to ensure the law is followed correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
... which he has done.Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
Judge says any delay in preparation for the trial "will be dealt with severely" Sets date for Jan 18
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Counsel for Rangers say there is no evidence his client was responsible for a Daily Record article from May this year.
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Judge asks for a list of all newspaper articles that SD claim were a breach of the confidentiality agreement.
Gives counsel one week
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Counsel for Rangers says his client cannot see what damage was done to SD by the newspaper articles
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Sounds like an admission of guilt to me :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Counsel for Rangers "we don't know if they are asking for £200,000 or £200" in damages
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Let me guess??? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
On costs judge says he will reserve his decision.
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If we are to better Scottish football we have to live in the here and now and goodness knows we do not have our problems to seek. Our national team is down to 52 in the world just behind Gambia and Trinidad.
And yet guys - perhaps even you - think it's all about the Rangers. I'm sorry but I fundamentally disagree.[/QUOTE]
For 4 years, from about 2003, when Oldco were in their pomp, Scotland's rating was much lower than 52. I think we reached 86 at one point. Even in the months before Rangers' liquidation we were rated as 72. There's absolutely no correlation between the demise of Sevco & the Scotland team's ranking. Like others I'm genuinely intrigued as to why you keep beating this empty drum!
Court now discussing an interim confidentiality order to last until trial
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Judge notes there is a legitimate public interest in this case but issues of confidentiality remain
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Judge to RFC counsel " perhaps your client should have kept it zipped yesterday" notes there are over 100 news articles on the Internet
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Item no 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
That nosey ******* Ozy fi Hibs.net. Tell him to shut the F up.
He has to a point but as underscore says he's also been grandstanding to a considerable extent. He does seem to have started proceedings with a particular agenda in mind. Early on yesterday he asked SD's counsel about the famous ( or infamous ) ****** King hats. I find it hard to believe a London based judge would have had that knowledge if it had not been specifically brought to his attention prior to the trial. I can see MA moving for a mistrial if the judge does not restore some balance.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Golden Fleece
Yay! :flag:
Counsel for Rangers "on the other side resources are no problem, it is not the same with us"
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Breaking: Counsel for Sports Direct says £5m loan has not been repaid
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Counsel for Sports Direct says Rangers have told him "funds are still being collected" to repay loan
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So for every £5 sports direct spend, they won't be able to spend £10? Shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
My thoughts entirely. When the duopoly ratcheted up their spending to which neither could afford (Advocaat/O'Neill) on a sustainable level the national team had qualified for zero tournaments.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
Think some people have a romantic view of Scottish football that never existed in the last twenty five years.
Counsel for Sports Direct says Rangers have told him "funds are still being collected" to repay loan
= Buckets a t the game at Ibrox tomorrow
Judge responds to Internet chatter and tells court " I have never been a mason"
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No - I am shocked!! :faint:Quote:
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Streisand Effect.Quote:
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
Def not paid it. Mislead the court yesterday it appears.Quote:
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Breaking: Counsel for Sports Direct says £5m loan has not been repaidQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
EDIT: Did Ozy not keep us up to date? (joke)
Counsel for Sports Direct says RFC are still £500k short of funds to repay loan.
Counsel for Sports Direct says RFC are still £500k short of funds to repay loan.
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FFS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
So, does that mean that there is a potential new case. Perjury?
To be fair to JJ, he did raise that possibility yesterday.
But would he tell us if he was?Quote:
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Have they conveniently omitted a Zero? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
There was talk yesterday about how weak and seemingly unprepared SD were for this court case.
I've been thinking maybe Ashley had second thoughts about getting King banged up.
That would have given the SFA an easy out to revoke his Fit and Proper status and kill the judicial review of the SFA 's process.
If that's his plan , its worth the minor setback yesterday.
Court told SD £5m loan to Rangers was repaid yesterday
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Or is that how much they have raised 😁
They said yesterday yesterday.Quote:
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Given that they've lied once already in Court, I wouldn't put it past them.....Quote:
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