The generic Hearts thread

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Originally Posted by Viva_Palmeiras

Likey unpopular perspective but...

As the enormity of this crisis unravels I wouldn’t be too surprised for football to have to rip it up and start again as clubs tinker on the brink.
Hearts will be saved through the demise of others.

As a result if their Vladdish excesses they’ve ended up with a competitive advantage in the additional revenues from FOH at a level unlike other clubs. If this continues they will be better placed to handle a lack of spectators through the gates that other clubs on the brink.

If push cametto shove they already have the donators. Some may dry up as the crisis extends but they have a foundation.

Do folks think we’d flip modes and donate in numbers approaching Hearts?

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Totally get where you are coming from but we have seen this argument ever since the creation of FOH.

Having and spending more money than other clubs is not in itself a guarantee of success. As Hearts have ably shown over the last few years.

Season after season we have been told that FOH donations will give Hearts a massive advantage and propel them to 3rd in the league by some margin.

Even with this extra income and also the additional funds from some mysterious benefactors it hasn't even propelled them to 11th!

Until Hearts look to have a sensible fiscal approach then they are doomed to repeat their previous mistakes and actually spend their way into trouble. I don't see fan ownership changing their behaviour. It is in their DNA.

With regard to your question on whether Hibs fans would donate in such numbers then the answer "Don't know". We are not in that position and hopefully never are. Hearts fans make great store out of rallying to the cause to save their club. I am proud that we don't have to.

Lets ruin Scottish football because hearts dont want to drop to the championship like they deserve?

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Originally Posted by Waxy

Lets ruin Scottish football because hearts dont want to drop to the championship like they deserve?

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Exactly. Who says cheats never prosper. I’m still confident they won’t get another 10 votes to push this through!


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Originally Posted by CraigHibee

🤣 they choose expelled over on brokeback as it takes the sting out of relegation slightly. You are normally expelled for doing something wrong so they are definitely on the right path with that, expelled because you are horse ****

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Fair enough. If they've been expelled they won't be claiming the parachute payment that's made to relegated teams. After all, it's a club with principles.

Will Dundee utd vote as a SPFL club or championship club?
The Championship clubs will probably vote it down themselves anyway?

Do Cove vote as a league 1 side?
Them Clyde Forfar and Peterhead will also vote that down.

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Originally Posted by Waxy

Will Dundee utd vote as a SPFL club or championship club?
The Championship clubs will probably vote it down themselves anyway?

Do Cove vote as a league 1 side?
Them Clyde Forfar and Peterhead will also vote that down.

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The only issue would be Dundee Utd, the rest will all change places for the next vote as the season has been declared. Dundee Utd have not as yet been declared promoted I don’t think.

It would appear Hearts have only been able to confirm wage cuts today. I thought the final, final, absolute take it or you're sacked deadline set by the 'top businesswoman' (after a bitter and protracted stand-off) was at the start of last week?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52470316

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Originally Posted by G B Young

It would appear Hearts have only been able to confirm wage cuts today. I thought the final, final, absolute take it or you're sacked deadline set by the 'top businesswoman' (after a bitter and protracted stand-off) was at the start of last week?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52470316

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Nothing ever asked about bullying and threatening the players to take the cuts? Not one text to McGlaughlin or English from the Pfa saying so either? Hmm.

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

I actually think this is what Hearts are waiting on. Smacks of Dundee syndrome again by delaying the inevitable administration to ensure no points lost. Some of the teams above them may go into admin or worse and that is where I think Hearts are playing the game.

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Put it another way - who’s last man standing?

The one reliant on football and spectators returning but otherwise run a tight ship, pay players and their bills or one less reliant on gate receipts cos the vlad-sheep continued their loyalty to something that may never appear (share certificates anyone?) and prepared to shaft their players and suppliers/partners/creditors to save their skin? There’s only a finite amount of time either can be sustained. FTHMFC This benefactor thing stinks as well.

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Originally Posted by 90+2

The only issue would be Dundee Utd, the rest will all change places for the next vote as the season has been declared. Dundee Utd have not as yet been declared promoted I don’t think.

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Dundee Utd have been declared champs/promoted which is why Hearts are desperately wanting reorg.

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Originally Posted by G B Young

It would appear Hearts have only been able to confirm wage cuts today. I thought the final, final, absolute take it or you're sacked deadline set by the 'top businesswoman' (after a bitter and protracted stand-off) was at the start of last week?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52470316

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She's delighted to confirm cuts. Bet she's delightedm she's some woman

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Originally Posted by G B Young

It would appear Hearts have only been able to confirm wage cuts today. I thought the final, final, absolute take it or you're sacked deadline set by the 'top businesswoman' (after a bitter and protracted stand-off) was at the start of last week?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52470316

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You're not suggesting there's been some lying going on surely?

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Originally Posted by brog

Dundee Utd have been declared champs/promoted which is why Hearts are desperately wanting reorg.

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👍 until the Premier is declared tho Utd can’t take gunts place in voting.

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Originally Posted by Viva_Palmeiras

Put it another way - who’s last man standing?

The one reliant on football and spectators returning but otherwise run a tight ship, pay players and their bills or one less reliant on gate receipts cos the vlad-sheep continued their loyalty to something that may never appear (share certificates anyone?) and prepared to shaft their players and suppliers/partners/creditors to save their skin? There’s only a finite amount of time either can be sustained. FTHMFC This benefactor thing stinks as well.

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That’s exactly how it is. Just unbelievably insular and selfish.

Can't believe no one has posted the latest Hearts statement on here?
A strong entry to the statement league.

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...e-may-5th-2020

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Originally Posted by grunt

Can't believe no one has posted the latest Hearts statement on here?
A strong entry to the statement league.

https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...e-may-5th-2020

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just did thanks 🙏 interesting they don’t have any payment plan available for season tickets?? They really must need the entirety of season tix money right now of which, must put them in a precarious position.

Now is not the time for any Football club to find themselves overstretched. The Jambos are totally skint and with relegation they are going to struggle to bounce back in these circumstances.. FoH are surely going to see a lot of people cancel payments as folk struggle with employment etc etc. Not sure where the benefactor has gone but not heard much recently on that front. It’s going to be a painful time down gorgie and their problems are all self made. It was a miracle they got away with Romanov’s era. What did they learn from that? Clearly nothing, straight back to spending a fortune on that horrifically expensive main stand. Christ, it’s still not even complete. It’s hilarious.
They deserve everything that’s coming to them.

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Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

She's delighted to confirm cuts. Bet she's delightedm she's some woman

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Not cuts, "salary changes". :faf:

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Originally Posted by G B Young

It would appear Hearts have only been able to confirm wage cuts today. I thought the final, final, absolute take it or you're sacked deadline set by the 'top businesswoman' (after a bitter and protracted stand-off) was at the start of last week?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52470316

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They really are Edinburgh Rangers.

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Originally Posted by G B Young

Not cuts, "salary changes". :faf:

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Levein and McPhee both got Gorgie style salary changes when they lost their jobs months ago but actually didn't and are still being paid rather than binned, another universe entirely and it stems from the top which is pleasing, as they say.

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They’ve got a brass neck bleating about what they’re doing with the Big Hearts charity seeing that they stiffed them for £34k

Why are Hearts getting such an easy time of it in the media over the disgusting treatment of their players. If any other business was threatening their staff with the sack unless they took a pay cut the media would be all over this. Such a horrible little club with no morals.

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

just did thanks 🙏 interesting they don’t have any payment plan available for season tickets?? They really must need the entirety of season tix money right now of which, must put them in a precarious position.

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They do have a payment plan

We had announced that we would be changing finance provider to V12 for the 20/21 season. There was, as previously advised, a delay in the process (completely outwith our control) and as a consequence were unable to make finance available when we launched. As a result of COVID-19, unfortunately, V12 have had a change of policy with regard to football club finance. Since the proposed changes to their terms would disadvantage the club, we have decided to continue our relationship with Premium Credit. They have confirmed that they are happy to continue to offer our supporters the same interest rates and payment plan options as they provided this season.

We plan to launch this finance option later this week.

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Originally Posted by Sammy7nil

They do have a payment plan

We had announced that we would be changing finance provider to V12 for the 20/21 season. There was, as previously advised, a delay in the process (completely outwith our control) and as a consequence were unable to make finance available when we launched. As a result of COVID-19, unfortunately, V12 have had a change of policy with regard to football club finance. Since the proposed changes to their terms would disadvantage the club, we have decided to continue our relationship with Premium Credit. They have confirmed that they are happy to continue to offer our supporters the same interest rates and payment plan options as they provided this season.

We plan to launch this finance option later this week.

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you are right! Serves me right for getting bored after two or three paragraphs.

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Originally Posted by Sammy7nil

They do have a payment plan

We had announced that we would be changing finance provider to V12 for the 20/21 season. There was, as previously advised, a delay in the process (completely outwith our control) and as a consequence were unable to make finance available when we launched. As a result of COVID-19, unfortunately, V12 have had a change of policy with regard to football club finance. Since the proposed changes to their terms would disadvantage the club, we have decided to continue our relationship with Premium Credit. They have confirmed that they are happy to continue to offer our supporters the same interest rates and payment plan options as they provided this season.

We plan to launch this finance option later this week.

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So they wanted to change to another provider, they said ram it and now they’re back to the original one? Top business management that is.

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

just did thanks 🙏 interesting they don’t have any payment plan available for season tickets?? They really must need the entirety of season tix money right now of which, must put them in a precarious position.

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It’s how successful businesswomen operating professional football clubs that are the envy of the entire country operate. Put your Season Tickets on sale without a payment plan in place.

Truly, they are the leaders and the rest of us merely followers.

I see in the statement they have sold just over 2 K season tickets !

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Originally Posted by greenpaper55

I see in the statement they have sold just over 2 K season tickets !

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Only been on sale a couple weeks
That’s quite a good number for Edinburgh’s 2nd best team

My family Duncanette is whining that people are trying to bulldoze them into bankruptcy.

Oh, so it's everybody else and not Budge's serial mismanagement.6

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Originally Posted by AltheHibby

My family Duncanette is whining that people are trying to drive them into bankruptcy.

Oh, so it's everybody else and not Budge's serial mismanagement.

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It’s what you’d expect from them tbh. Everyone else’s fault bar their own!


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