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He's a known liar so unfortunately few will believe anything he says now.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibee
The real shame here is that he was actually the first truly competent health minister we have had for a while. If only he had come clean as soon as this was called out he just might have stayed in position. It sort of explains (but doesn't excuse) Yousaf's reluctance to sack him when the talent pool at the top has all but dried up.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/24...scottish-city/
Well done Lidl, what you gonna do Westminster?
So Labour Tories thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
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Scotland performing best on cancer treatment but still struggling.
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This insult is now 45 years old. About time you gave it a rest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
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Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
I’ve never had any interest in politics so didn’t know about the tartan tories and I’m not old enough to remember 1979 so have just done a bit of reading up on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Can’t believe after all the things the SNP say about the years of Tory rule that they were responsible for Margaret Thatcher becoming Prime Minister!
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Was that not a General Election.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibee
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A general election brought on by the Tartan Tories and dissident Labour MPs crossing the chamber and voting with Thatcher in a vote of no confidence in CallaghanQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
So more to do with Labour MPs than SNP then? A fact admitted by Callaghan himself. Comfort blanket for those who vote labourQuote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
aw come on man, the irony is absolutely hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Quizmaster Q. which two British Political Parties enjoy sharing council coalitions in Scotland
contestant A. em um well shirly it has to be two right wing parties where policies align
Quizmaster you need to answer the Q
Contestant, isn't it obvious ? it has to be The Tories and they Tartan Tories
Quizmaster, why is it obvious ?
Contestant, don't be silly Mr Quizmaster i mind when being in ma school playground some auld dudes calling the SNP tartan tories
Quizmaster, are you an imbecile that was 45+ years ago have you never heard that things change
contestant, no way it can't be the SNP, ah mean SNP politicians they're all taking bungs from American private healthcare companies and only a guid socialist party like labour would refuse to accept they bungs and aw that eh
Quizmaster, no no no that was when Labour USED tae be a socialist party, they're kicking all they 'lefty' politicians out of their party now, you seem to be living in the past Mr Contestant
Contestant, aw ok then but i'll tell yi wan hing, yi widnae see Conservative and Labour politicians in power-sharing Coalitions let mae tell yi
Quizmaster, so you've never been to Scotland then Mr Contestant
Audience starts p@shing themselves laughing at Mr Contestant not seeing the irony
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true, honest :agree:
On 1 March 1979, a referendum on the Scotland Act saw a majority vote for devolution, but a threshold imposed by anti-devolution MP George Cunningham requiring 40% of the electorate to be in favour was not reached due to low turnout.[4] When the government decided not to implement the Act, the Scottish National Party MPs put down a motion of no confidence. After consulting with the Liberal Party to confirm that they were still supporting motions of no confidence, on Monday, 26 March, the Leader of the Opposition, Margaret Thatcher, put down an early day motion "[t]hat this House has no confidence in Her Majesty's Government."The government arranged for this motion to be debated on Wednesday 28 March as an opposition motion in government time.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Who raised the motion?
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Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
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...and if the General Election had been six weeks later, or six months later or earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Do you think people went out to Vote Tory thinking "well, the SNP had no confidence in Labour so I'm voting Conservative".
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When you don’t like the truth you post a meme 👏👏Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
🤷*♂️ we’ll never noQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
If you going to look at history you really do have to do so with a bit detachment rather than a few bairns emojis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
The SNP were a different beast back then. The Labour Party were running on the last few fumes of Socialism they had left (they've yet to refuel). Labour was hamstrung by the mid decade fuel crisis and the Tories made political acumen from that.
Thatcher was a stick on bet to win any election whether it was called in 1979 or whenever it was due to be held.
No serious historian claims the reason Thatcher was elected because of the SNP.
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The UK electorate vote Maggie Thatcher into power in 1979 and some people still insist it's the SNP's fault.
Sorry but that's totally deranged.
Because it's no longer relevant? SNP are far from being Tories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Actually no. You should stop it because it's stupid, and it makes you look stupid. I'm sure you're not.
Snp worked with tories in 2007 and 2011 scot parliaments, didn't need to after due to majorities. Labour do the same in councils. Its a big neolib game.
I think the next Scottish Parliament won't have a majority for the winner, whoever has first minister will do deals with the rest probably policy by policy
I understood the Scottish voting system is designed to avoid majorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
More so than FPTP but in most countries where there is PR you usually have a dozen or so parties that get a good number of votes. We vote for pretty much 5 parties. I think post independence we'll see more parties less chance of a majority and more coalitions, hopefullyQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
https://x.com/bbcr4today/status/1754...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
They would never let this woman on BBC Scotland. Sound like the SNP are getting something else right.
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So nothing to do with the Labour government of the time being incompetent and about as popular as the torys are now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Labour making a complete mess of running the country for a considerable time and Labour voters deserting them in their millions in the election.
Thinking it's always someone else's fault is the biggest problem Labour had then and when it got obliterated in the Scottish Parliament ... and still has now.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...-next-32125810
Interesting given the size of the poll and the accuracy they usually have. Long way to go but it’s a poll that I think will be welcome for both the SNP and Labour although Scottish Labour may be a bit disapointed( it’s still a massive win for them).
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Would be brilliant I’ll be putting annual leave for the day after so I can stay up all night and watch for the first time in many elections. It'll probably be closer in both countries come election but that's the dream result. Can't wait to watch some big hitter tories lose and some red wall racists tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Tempted to copy this link in to the Good News thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://news.sky.com/story/money-blo...#liveblog-body
At least we don’t have this to worry about.
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SNP government freeze council tax and promise extra funding to councils.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
SNP government cancel hospital building programme and blame Westminster for lack of funding.
We should definitely let councils raise the council tax. Councils have had huge cuts in real terms over the last decade and say the funding won't cover this year. Its social programs that seem to be getting the biggest kicking
Obviously council tax should be totally reformed but no party is interested in that