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Couldn’t agree more. The most bizarre major news headline I can think of. Genuinely have no idea how it’s been done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
It’s like a modern version of ww2 exploding pigeons and anti tank dogs expect it’s actually worked beyond perfect.
Could have been standing beside one of them in a shop or something. I’m sure they don’t walk around wearing badges.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
In what way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
From the cctv videos I've seen of 3 attacks no one standing right next to the people were hurt, just bad groin injuries to the person with the pager on his belt.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
Lebanese saying 3300 hezbollah injured with 600 critical. Must be up there with the most successful intelligence agency op ever, still can barely believe it. They must have infiltrated the factory or something
Sky Arabia and Al Jazeera saying 20 gram of explosive was placed on the battery of each pager
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Originally Posted by tamig
jeez how so terribly unlucky if he was just standing next to a terrorist huh
You believe what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Considering a 13 year old girl has died in those exact circumstances, then it's not exactly impossible.
So far, there are a reported 3,000 people injured. They can't all be terrorists.
I’m prepared to give the benefit of the doubt in the example cabbageandribs was talking about. Maybe the ambassador guy was a dodgy character - but equally he could have been an innocent bystander. It all depends where the pager was when it blew up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Has to be quite sophisticated. Whatever triggered the explosion did it simultaneously. Either they were all programmed to explode at the same time or they were detonated remotely, either way it's evil genius and the planning to pull something like this off is incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
They’re talking about an alphanumeric text message having been sent simultaneously acting as the trigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
The electronics bit is probably fairly simple. The difficult bit is how they managed to get these people to carry explosives around with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
These pagers will have been receiving messages before the explosion, that one particular message was the one that detonated the devices takes the scam to a whole new level of sophistication.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
i don't know a lot about pagers but there's probably some command to action a specific pin the would be attached to the explosive. If you have an explosive that's volatile enough but sufficiently isolated from the rest of the electronics, it should be fairly robust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyl9048gx8t
Yet more atrocities by Israel!!
The video the BBC showed of the explosion in the fruit shop with young children nearby, children who were evidently terrified and screaming, was heartbreaking stuff.
All the killing in this war, indeed any war, is wrong. The issue here is that indiscriminate killing and maiming on one side is decried as terrorism whilst on the other it's condoned by western leaders (and it appears much of the population) and the collateral damage of thousands of Palestinians and now Lebanese is a price worth paying.
:agree: I couldn't help thinking about the potential collateral damage caused by this attack. Israel was obviously fine with the idea that some of these targets were near children, driving vehicles or even on planes or trains when these devices were detonated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Hezbollah announce the death of another 7 members. They say 3 civilians killed and 34 of the 37 dead so far were Hezbollah. Another another around 400 people with critical injuries.
Hezbollahs leader Hassan Nasrallah talking just now says the resistance received heavy blow, but this is the nature of war. says Hezbollah's attacks against northern #Israel have forced Israel to divert ressources away from Gaza and the West Bank.
Israeli strikes reported in Lebanon
Nasrallah speaking about the possibility that Israeli troops will enter the country to create a buffer zone: says he doesn't believe Israeli will make an invasion as they regularly make the same threat
"We wish that they enter Lebanon, What you consider a threat, we consider an opportunity"
Israel all set to flatten Lebanon now. And yet, they will be armed to the hilt by Western allies.
I have a different opinion on military action v Hezbollah as the people of Gaza.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Isreal controls Gaza but Lebanon is responsible for dealing with Hezbollah. **** for the ordinary people of Lebanon.
I think eventually there will be a war between Iran and the West. It’s the only way this will ever be dealt with.
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Wouldn't last long. I think they will try to arm proxies and bottle it when it comes down to it like they did when Israel hit them. Leaders usually like their good lives and only start wars that they think they will win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Tricky country to invade though. Geography favours defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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It's the ordinary people of Lebanon I feel for. The country has been fragile for decades but Israel won't care who it kills in pursuit of Hezbollah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
And neither will it's allies.
No one is invading it I think the stupidity of Russia thinking it's 1940 the last few years has put paid to that, although even Russia thought they would win in a week. 200 NATO f35s and HIMARS would stop anything Iran did. Although I'm sure they won't they aren't stupid, they basically armed Hamas and Hezbollah and then through them under the bus when they asked Iran to get involved. More likely oil deals with Iran than full blown warQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I’m thinking a massive air war is most likely right enough. The problem being that regime change is difficult to achieve that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
It’s a fragile regime as is and we don’t want to strengthen it.
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Lots of reports of hezbollah fighters being attacked by Sunni and Druze people when fleeing north. You forget how much of a separated country it is and how incompetent Britain was when dividing up countries on maps without a care for sectarianism
Yeah I agree, the leaders are hated by many. Dead kids in Iranian news would create a common enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Britain has a bit of previous for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Lots of reports the head of Hezbollah has been killed. Let’s hope so.[emoji1696]
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Never sure about things like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Killing the head just reinforces the cause, no? The guy himself will be martyred, and someone else will step up.