You make a good point in regards current employees thoughb alot of former employees agree also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geo_1875
And I feel things are often protrayed a certain way also mostly by the media IMO of course.
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You make a good point in regards current employees thoughb alot of former employees agree also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geo_1875
And I feel things are often protrayed a certain way also mostly by the media IMO of course.
kind regards
No it’s because they were racist idiots who believed a number of the side of a bus was it not?Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
As for Trump...well he’s hardly my cup of tea to say the least but as PB said I ain’t gonna waste any time joining in some ill defined ‘protest’ against a US President having the temerity to visit the UK
I saw a few protesters getting dropped off in their luxury cars by their Mum and Dad's earlier. Probably the same people who protest against capitalism on their gap year before Oxbridge and joining a hedge fund.
I remember thinking much the same during the "Make Poverty History" march that happened the same time the G8 was held at Gleneagles. Whilst we shouldn't judge someone's political standings on appearances of wealth, it did stick in my craw that there I was, dressed in white playing a VERY small part in trying to raise awareness to the global inequalities many people face and there was a few groups of what appeared to be well to do/middle classes quaffing prosecco in the middle of the heaving Meadows as if it was the Henley Regatta or some other such gathering commonly perceived as being for our society's elite.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
Class and privilege aren't the issue people are protesting here...it is about hate, fear, and division ....Quote:
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What a ludicrous post. It's this type of attitude that perfectly sums up what Trump's regime is normalising. Lazy generalisations, insecurity, inverted snobbery and intolerance.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
I'd back anyone to protest against him. It seems healthier to actively have a stance against an appalling creature like Trump that sit and sneer at those who do.
Did you see the clip posted from Sky news, the guy never had a clue what he was protesting against. He was there as he and many others think its the trendy thing to do. Appreciate not all are like that and maybe some people have some genuine reason to protest against him, but as I said earlier can you explain why there was not similar protests when the Saudi leader had a state visit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias
I did listen to what he said. Not up there with the most articulate, but what actually he said was in essence "that he didn't think the world should be led by a bully who uses negative methods to put people down". Not an issue with that. The danger with voxpop taken in isolation is that you can pick it to choose whatever you want to portray. One lad with a dubious taste in neck wear and a preponderance for interspersing "like" too much in sentences doesn't make the protest invalid. There'll be a mix of reasons for attending sure, but there's a reason why someone like Trump drives people onto the streets here and in the USA. He is an atrocious human being.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
You other point is mostly whitabootery. Trump is arguably the most powerful man in the planet. I follow US politics daily - what he and his administration are doing is dangerous on a global level as well as a US one. He panders to his fundamental religious base. He actively appoints climate change deniers to positions on the EPA. His new secretary of state has appalling positions on human rights. He demonstrably and repeatedly lies publicly. He threatens the the concept of free speech enshrined in the first amendment. His SCOTUS appointments will threaten womens rights for decades to come. His global trade war will impact everyone as it bites. His ties with Russia look to be shown to be impeachable. His frequent outbursts against women, people with disabilities, minorities, the press, the democrats all show the man as a blustering narcissist. And that's off the top off my head.
Trump has a disproportionately massive potential to harm the UK and the world. That is why he draws protest more than any number of appalling regimes and conflicts around the planet.
The trump protests are mostly made up of middle class virtue signalling, communists and trans activists.
What's your evidence for that?Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
Did you have them all fill in a questionnaire?
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At the end of the day it matters not what we think but what the people of America think, that's why I don't get why people seem to pick just on Trump and not other leaders of much worse nations. At the recent Commonwealth summit there was 37 leaders of nations where homosexuality is still illegal, anyone protest at that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias
If he is doing a bad job he will get voted out. His approval ratings are not great, but neither are they terrible.
No I have watched videos of the protests and the people who attend. Mostly as I have described them. If they think the speak for the majority of people they are well wide of the mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Because, as has been said before, the actions of his country have a greater and deeper effect on a larger number of people than do those of anyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
When America sneezes, the world catches a cold. When Trump sneezes, the world reaches for the penicillin. :greengrin
How can you tell the motives, backgrounds and opinions of every single person who was there by watching videos?Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
By the signs they hold, by their chants and mantras and who they represent.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
What's tonight's lottery numbers?Quote:
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Read my answer to you - he's protested against because he has the opportunity to wreak global damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbc70
You tell me for a change?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I don't have the mind-reading skills that you seem to have [emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
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Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
I have to assume you're trolling for a reaction as that is up there with the weirdest posts I've seen if it is reflective of your genuine opinion. Genuinely disturbing.
Did you not read my reply. I didn't have to read their minds. They held signs and chanted slogans and many in trans costumes.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Every single person at the demo was videoed, yeah?Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
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Just want to say to the snowflakes, that was pitiful compared to the miners strike and Paris 68.
Of course the didn't have as good snack stalls, so well done on that count.
I did not say every single protestor did I? I said most of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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Originally Posted by HomeTeam
But to know that most of them were... etc etc etc... you'd need to have seen videos of all of them, no? 🤣
While we're at it, what's your issue with trans activists?
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Snowflakes. The new "go to" response for people without argumentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Chic Murray
Well your narrow view of the world doesn't speak for me....anyone who stands up and protests against ignorance, bigotry, racism, sexism and division is good enough for me regardless of their background...Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
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What's a trans costume?Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
As others have said, Trump might be a bellend but the fact he was playing golf on the west coast of Scotland at a course he owns didn't inspire me to take to the streets of Edinburgh to 'protest'. For most who choose to spend their Saturday afternoon that way I say fair enough, but it's the politicians who home in on these events in an attempt to boost their credibility who stick in the craw. I see Richard Leonard and Tommy Sheppard coming out with quotes about how this shows that 'Scotland stands shoulder to shoulder against Trump'. Given that the police estimate of the crowd today was a mere 9,000 (there were considerably more at Easter Road in midweek) such statements are patently nonsense.
I don't see the trans movement as being deserving of the amount of attention it receives for the media or virtue signalling politicians.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Here is the video i watched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKfkzsgZQWQ