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I would say the deal is actually decent for the UK although cattle farmers may disagree. It reflects the fact Trump is getting desperate to be able to say he’s doing deals. It’s pretty flimsy all round though and I doubt it ever turn into an actual trade deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Or maybe not.
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Is there not a nuance whereby the winners vs losers thing isn’t necessarily either nation but primarily importers or primarily exporters?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
What you probably need to understand before you do a deal like this is the future propensity of British people to consume the stuff whose tariffs have been reduced. If it's junk like their beer, you'll need a lot of brainwashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
There are so many nuances that it's difficult to reach a conclusion at this stage.Quote:
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The statement itself strikes me as pretty much meaningless without context - e.g. how the averages referred to are calculated. Were they simply a=100%; b=0% therefore average = 50%, or were they done over the total amounts traded, which is a moving target.
On the face of the statement one could conclude that the UK had higher tariffs on US goods than vice versa, in which case you couldn't really blame Trump for seeking to balance things out (and I feel a bit sick saying that) but without having more detail we can't be sure.
The 10% blanket tariff was always going to stand regardless - was that taken into account in assessing "winners" and "losers"? One point is that if the reduction in US tariffs on steel helps to keep the Strumphorpe site in action that's a big win for the UK.
Also, grunt's post that the document is not legally binding means that it is not a deal - it may be a concept of a deal, but right now it looks to me like two struggling politicians desperately trying to polish a turd.
Sorry for the stream of consciousness there.
Trump appoints Judge Jeanine Pirro
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Bill Madden on X: "After hiring unqualified and incompetent drunk Pete Hegseth to be Defense Secretary, Trump's doubling down by giving serious consideration to unqualified and incompetent drunk Jeanine Pirro as US Attorney for DC. There has never been a more incompetent president than Trump, EVER. https://t.co/l8zTJYIMtH" / X
This guy says it better than me:Quote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwfk8Q0WvB8
he's a Genius
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Trump takes a $400m plane as a gift from Qatar https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5ell3gkxvo
The US constitution forbids this, he said he’d be stupid to turn down a free plane. He’s genuinely a moron.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/13/p...3T16%3A56%3A10
Sanctions lifted on Syria. New Trump tower in Damascus?
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It's ridiculous, isn't it.
The US Constitution is now pretty much meaningless.
Apart from the second amendment.Quote:
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https://www.autoblog.com/news/tesla-...oduction-pause
Tesla having to pause production in Texas due to falling demand.
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I just read that Trump said he's going to put the plane gifted to him in the 'presidential library'.
Just how big is the F***ing library!
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It’s a con so he can keep itQuote:
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Who's gonna tell it to keep the noise down? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
https://youtu.be/BJFmQPj6G1A
You can always depend on De Niro to hit the nail on the head.
Bruce Springsteen not holding back 'Treasonous': Bruce Springsteen unleashes anti-Trump attacks as he kicks off tour
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The Boss. Worth a watch, I think.
https://youtu.be/6ZHWIYHlXOs?si=QmMpHN_TNUKAhpjp
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The response will include the word "failing" :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
One of my favourite of Bruce's songs. :not worth
Trump’s crazy autocratic mission is gathering strength and with his absolute control over every sycophantic Republican lemming and a largely toothless Democratic opposition, he will almost certainly be in a position to gain nomination for a third term by unilaterally changing the rules. It seems there’s nothing to stop him, unless of-course the Grim Reaper does us a favour. Fingers crossed.
You can’t unilaterally change the constitution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
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No. But somebody needs to be brave enough to stop him doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
And the Supreme Court needs to not choose to play semantics games with it.