Back in action after the SWPL break today v Spartans. 4pm.
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Back in action after the SWPL break today v Spartans. 4pm.
Cruising at 5-0. Just after half-time.
6 - 0 full-time; very solid..........
1 match and 4 processions in the SWPL today. Well done Partick Thistle.
The league needs more than 7 competent teams.
Queens's Park 0 Rangers 14
Glasgow City 6 Aberdeen 1
Dundee United 1 Motherwell 6
Hibernian 6 Spartans 0
Celtic 4 Partick Thistle 2
Hibs are at DU on wednesday then home next sunday v Aberdeen in the cup
QP lost all their good players in this window. Zero chance of staying up now. DU have also lost anyone of quality. Spartans are struggling with a very very young team. I went to the game on Sunday and the difference in quality and condition between the 2 teams is mental now. The pro teams are miles ahead and there really isn't room for more than 6 teams at that level.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Next season will see a reduction from 5 to 3 teams getting absolutely torched in the SWPL every week. That's a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
There is absolutely no point in the bigger clubs having all the decent players and leaving the smaller clubs with nothing to defend themselves with unless they want the continued match farces we are currently seeing in our flagship Womens league. A 0-14 scoreline is a red flag that shouldn't be ignored if the SWPL is to have sporting crediblity.
There are currently 5 clubs in the league with insane negative goal differences and the bottom two clubs are on -82 and -74 after 17 games!!!
That's not competitive sport. What is hoped to be achieved by dishing out these weekly beatings?
Add to that the league then showing highlights of teams getting pumped and awful goalkeeping highlights. The game in Scotland has went backwards in the last 10 years. All about participation rather then improving the elite level.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHeffernan
I disagree with your highlighted point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
The womens game in Scotland is improving every season and part of the reason for that is higher and higher participation by girls and teens which feeds our teams.
The elephant in the room with the Womens game in Scotland is paying spectator numbers which are currently negligable with a large proportion of those that do attend being players family and friends. Hibs currently attract crowds of a couple of hundred. As one of the 5 professional clubs in the country that must be a major concern.
I know sponsorship and donations make up a lot of the finances involved in the Women's game, but it must be nearing a difficult decision (retaining professional status) based upon the crowds I've been present in.
I take my daughter a good few times a season, and we even sponsor a few of the team, and it's a great shame to see how poorly attended it is.
Participation has got to be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
Ive watched the game for 20 years - I honestly think the top level games im watching in this league, that the football is worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHeffernan
But it needs elite coaching, and the top players identified and developed. Having 40 more womens teams doesnt help when the majority of it is recreational.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
Been watching it for 10+ years and totally disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
In the past it was just 2 sides (Hibs and Glasgow city steamrolling over the other teams on a weekly basis) - whereas now there are 5 teams (Hibs / hearts / OF / Glasgow city) at the top who are all able to beat each other. That is progress and an indication that the league is improving surely? In time, you’d expect the other SPL sides will get involved and help shape the league further.
Motherwell and Partick do well considering their modest budgets. The league being trimmed for next season will help address the nonsense scores that QP and the Arabs offer.
Crowds aren’t great but again, better than they have been previously IMO.
Not comparable to the numbers they get down south, but I think Scotlands exceptionally high % of match going fans (on the men’s side) means that there just isn’t that many folk who would like to go, that don’t already.
Englands international success also gave them a massive boost, Scotland have regressed internationally in recent years but I’m not sure that’s the fault of the domestic league.
We're are a long way behind England and the other leading football nations when it comes to selling the women's game. Sure, the quality's got some way to go but it's also about shifting mindsets among fans who have a rather blinkered view and tend to compare the women's game with the men's rather than see it as a developing game with its own identity.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHeffernan
Would you say womens football in England is artificially bolstered by the vast riches of the parent clubs?Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
P.S. I note that like Elias Melkersen, SWPL players play almost exclusively on plastic.
Although I gather from one of my cousins who lives in London and takes her kids to see Arsenal women that they now play the majority of their home fixtures at the Emirates.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHeffernan
I don't know about artificially bolstered, but the association with the parent club can't do any harm. The product's got to be strong enough to keep fans attending though and attendances in England are rising season by season. The huge success of the England women's team will have been a big help there.
I'd need to find out more about how the club structure things but Arsenal appear to have got things spot on. I think they average more than 30k for women's games and when I tuned in to a game v Spurs last season there were over 50k there.
From a sky sports Journo
Celtic and Rangers have held exploratory talks over a move to play in England's Women's Super League.
bit.ly/4aAiMqR
They hate Scotland eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Great move - but it will never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Folk are quick to brush off any talk of a UK league because it might impact on the existence of the four Home Nations teams but I think if structured well it could really inject some life into the Scottish game. The women's game would certainly benefit but budgets would be the stumbling block due to the travel involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
No champions league for themQuote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
Going well for our girls at HT up at Tannadeechy - 3 scud
Going well for our girls at HT up at Tannadeechy - 3 scud
Good stuff for the girls. Nice build up for their semi final against Aberdeen in the Sky Sports Cup on Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by scm70nyd1973
5-0 now
Hibs are really clinical. Switch play patiently, then a through ball and.....Boom!
Dundee are screwed. Had to recruit 4 players this week just to put a squad out tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
FT's
Dundee United 0 Hibernian 5
Celtic 8 Aberdeen 0
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhXdUQ-W...name=4096x4096
Not sure about that, be interesting to see what developers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
That will be another procession like tonights matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp
They weren't playing against any level of opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
Haves against the have nots.
It's like Celtic supporters getting excited about beating Albion Rovers.
DU have a goal difference of -88 goals after 18 games!!!
If it was boxing they would be stopped.
It's not right and it's not professional sport.
A proper match for Hibs on the 26th Jan against Glasgow City.
Is it 3 teams down and 1 up at the end of the season?Quote:
Originally Posted by PHeffernan
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by The dalmeny
I actually think for the most part the Scottish teams would benefit of being part of a larger pool of a British league, can't help feel there is a ceiling in Scotland for women's football and it's already hit that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Really hate those 2. Got to assume Glasgow City would want to move having won 16 league titles compared to a pathetic 1 each from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Do we play the Rangers again and does second get a Champions League place
Hope the girls get a really good turn out for the semi final on Sunday against Aberdeen, they deserve it.
'mon the Hibs girls.
Can't see a good turn out for what is effectively a bye to the final.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp
Our women will probably have less of a game against Aberdeen at the weekend than the men will have against non league opposition.
So far this season Hibs Women have beaten Aberdeen 7-0 at home and 1-7 away.
They have a -54 goal difference in the league due to being torched everytime they play the 5 professional teams.
Absolute lambs to the slaughter.
I don't think we are anywhere near that point. At the moment the pool of quality players is probably too small leading to a wild difference in standards across the league. That will change as more and more girls get the same encouragement as boys to play the game. It's still relatively early days for the women's game. There's a long way to go but I'm sure we will see steady progression towards both higher standards and better crowds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
We see more and more girls coming through every season and hopefully it won't be too long until there are enough of them to populate the 10 top tier Scottish clubs with teams of decent players. I would say we have 7 decent teams at the moment so probably looking at needing another 60 decent players to reach that first basic stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
On the upside, most of the current players in the league are young so we are not losing many league players to retirement yet so the net player numbers growth is being sustained season on season.
Next semi pro club in the SWPL needs to be Aberdeen. The parent club has loads of money and if they spend a little on their womens team they will immediately be the 6th force and can then look to chase down the top 5.
That would immediately give us 8 decent clubs and Dundee Utd as the next biggest club should be looking at making that 9 by spending more than they currently do to bring themselves up to a standard at least as good as Motherwell and Partick Thistle.
I see a poster complaining about the league requiring elite coaching etc. Elite everything costs big money and I'm less bothered about the league not chasing elite standard at the moment. It needs to walk before it can run and that could mean something as simple as targetting no club in the top league having a negative goal difference of more than 2 goals per game.
The detached St Johnstone in the mens league this season currently have a negative GD of less than 1, so 2 is not a stringent standard. 3 of the 5 teams not currently meeting that standard will drop out of the league at the end of the season but we could easily have 5 clubs struggling again next season with a higher percentage of the smaller clubs games being against the 5 big clubs.
I think paying crowds are going to continue to be a struggle for many years to come but if the likes of Hibs could achieve average home crowds of 600 paying supporters by 2030 that would be good if unspectacular progress.
Totally agree with the last two posts, the standard is going to improve greatly in the next decade.
My daughter plays U14 tier 1 in the South East region and there are some really talented girls at that level, and that is not even top level as Next Gen above this.
There has been a real explosion in the amount of younger girls playing, the trick is keeping them interested past about 14 when other interests and commitments come in.
There’s a noticeable drop in the number of teams as you go U14 to 16 to 18, but am confident this can be reversed the more girls are playing.
Also needs to be some sort of U20 league, like boys, to bridge the gap to women’s football and stop girls/women giving up when they get too old for U18.
The standard of women's football is way higher than it was 10 years ago and as has been mentioned already we now have 5 teams who are competitive at the top end,
rather than just Hibs and Glasgow City hoovering up all the cups and leagues respectively year in year out. Not that I'm complaining about winning all those cups...
There's a gap after that but the money isn't there to transform the game up here yet. The English game is on another level but gates down there and all over Europe tell a story,
there's a good product worth watching, and developing.
It’s easy to say we’ve improved from 10 years ago but imo we’ve fallen further behind in that time. It may look a bit better in the Scottish league but on the national stage we have maybe 2 players now that are top class. Our youth teams tend to win in the B leagues against lesser nations but are then shown up when promoted to A. That’s where the improvement has to come. That improvement only happens with full time elite coaching. No idea how that can be funded but without that we will just fall further back.
Get more people to watch the game, put season tickets up to help fund it, find sponsors and encourage more kids to play the game. Until such time, let the game find its level and stop moaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
The Scottish Mens domestic league is rated 15th best in Europe by UEFAQuote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
The Scottish Womens domestic league is rated 16th best in Europe by UEFA
The Scottish Mens National team is ranked 45th in the World by Fifa
The Scottish Womens National team is ranked 24th in the World by Fifa
Scottish Women seem to be doing alright
That’s a daft apples v oranges analogy tbh. But you know that that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHeffernan
one league game today
Hearts 6 Montrose 0
Hibernian welcome Glasgow City next week
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhrE5AXX...name=4096x4096
Well done the Hibees Women, another cup final :hibees
Indeed. Much more confident about the final than I would have been at the beginning of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaz1875
GG
Two lovely finishes inside the first 5 minutes. Both headers.
Ladies 2 Glasgow city zilch.
2 excellent crosses and 2 great headers from McGovern and Adams. What a start for the girls.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
2-1 22 mins.
Under the cosh now.
A Mackay Out banner and a Palestinian flag.
Almost full on Celtc.
The drum can GTF too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Palestinian flag and a “McKay Out” banner on display.
Deary me.
Women’s team wanting rid of a confirmed misogynist from our club. What a surprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Are Celtic fans the only fans allowed to oppose the genocide in Gaza? Nah, thought not.
I support them on both issues
Here here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ringothedog
was that 'goal' not onside?
Aye well, some of us can leave politics at home when watching football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ringothedog
The Mackay stuff is bordering on witch hunt territory now.
Clearly on. Shocking decision.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ringothedog
Plenty other outlets for you to support Gaza. Fitbaw isn't one of them.
great to hear the next generations drummers getting practice in :rolleyes:
3-1 now . great set play
Great header.
3-1 the good chicks. :thumbsup::flag: yet another lovely cross and header.
I have never seen new meadowbank pitch - must say it looks a 'good' 4g/5g pitch so much better than some in the SPL
can we get the ladies to take some set play training with the boys :devil:
You are entitled to your opinion. I will stick with mine👍Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
that is a delivery that liam henderson would be proud of
Someone is going to give you pelters I think 🤣🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
People themselves can decide on where is, and isn't, the correct platform to protest against genocide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsnoteasy
There's no correct answer.
However, football in general is happy enough to jump on plenty of social and political issues which it deems acceptable to support.
Remarkably though, genocide isn't one of them.
Greenlex out banner next week 😃Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm_cabbaged
Bowie is a running machine. She has an awkward style but puts in a ridiculous amount of effort chasing down anything and everything.
🤣🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
They are running their socks off here. Are they ful time? Even some of them?
levels of fitness on show is impressive. Pace has not let up. Don't know answer to your question but they have been professional since 2020 when they started first p/t proff contractsQuote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
That hits the ref. Fair enough but it’s a Hibs ball surely as she’s won the tackle and the ball as it’s broke off him. GC certainly were not in possession!!! Poor decision from the ref. Also fairly comical the commentator or pundit didn’t know the rule at all.,
Ref giving Hibs nowt - really poor
:agree: she runs like her life depends on itQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
The Hibs ladies have played brilliantly, the standard of football has been excellent. There are definitely a few girls in this team that could end up at one of the big English clubs. Brilliant result. 🇳🇬🇳🇬
Deserved win. Hibs' fitness and commitment was terrific. And one of their attacks down the right hand side in the second half was like watching prime Brownlie and Edwards.
Very impressed with the birds’ workrate and commitment today. Very very impressed. Lovely 3-1 win. Huge result at the top end of the table.
draw in the late game or dare I say a Tarts win would make the league even tastier for Hibs
Brilliant result -well played girls
Greenlex definitely out 😃😃Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
It's like she's being chased by a 🦁Quote:
Originally Posted by Up-the-slope
You know me Dave. Im only joshing. 😁😁Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Wonderful result and performance. What a fine run of form we're on. We look like title contenders.
She was immense although tired late on, no wonder. 👏👏👏Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
That's another great result , clever play at the end of the game keeping the ball at the oponents corner flag
Never seen flags or banners when that is the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee
Yup, great result and definitely in the mix for the title; look an entirely different team from last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by scm70nyd1973
GG
Especially brilliant from Rosie Livingstone at that point. Wise beyond her yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Sloop67
The Mackay banner's a regular presence at the women's games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman
I can get that as it's an issue directly relating to our club.
The Palestine stuff though, that's got naff all to to with football. Leave that to the Green Brigade, who actually forced one of their own players out of the club simply because he's Israeli. Imagine if that had happened to Marciano.
when your testicles are mounted on a plinth and brought out as pre match motivation you might be smiling less :tee hee:Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Up-the-slope
I’d be gender realigned. Might get a game?🫣🫣
Slightly ironic using the term 'witch hunt' to describe attitudes towards him, as they were basically driven by misogyny.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
We've had great news with Kensell leaving this week, and hopefully he isn't far behind
What did Kensell do to upset the Women's team?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibby rae