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23-07-2021, 07:28 PM
Clarence

Looks like they drew with Real Sociedad and beat AZ Alkmar in 2020 so we will have our work cut out for us.
23-07-2021, 07:32 PM
Sir David Gray

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Originally Posted by bingo70

I don’t know about better but we’re more defensively solid and for European games I suspect that’ll stand us in better stead.

Being an open attacking team would leave gaps that are quite easily exploited by better teams.

I don’t mean that in a negative way about this side, it’s just how I see us now.

There’s no away goals this year either is there?

Nope.
23-07-2021, 07:55 PM
CloudSquall

Not that I want to be a Debbie Downer but they should be knocking us out with ease based on their European record in recent years.
23-07-2021, 08:06 PM
Jim44

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Originally Posted by Clarence

Looks like they drew with Real Sociedad and beat AZ Alkmar in 2020 so we will have our work cut out for us.

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Originally Posted by CloudSquall

Not that I want to be a Debbie Downer but they should be knocking us out with ease based on their European record in recent years.

Fair enough. But don’t forget that we are untested and an unknown quantity in Europe with our present team. Let’s keep our chin up and give it our best shot. :hibees
23-07-2021, 08:23 PM
ABZHFC

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Originally Posted by Fergus52

Conversely, Scotland are currently the 9th best league in Europe and Croatia the 14th which is a better indicator of league strength than how good the national team is. However nearly all our coefficient points come from the old firm whereas Rijeka have picked up a lot for their league in recent years.

Not so sure about that, think they're about level these days. Zagreb have done about as well, if not better than Olympiacos in Europe in recent years and Rijeka have done better than AEK, PAOK etc. Greek league is currently only ranked 20th in Europe.

Rijeka have made the groups a couple of times in recent years and as another poster said always come in the top 3 and have won a title recently as well. Tripolis are often a mid table side, regularly finishing 8th or 9th.

Think they will be the toughest side we've faced in Europe in a while (take Haaland away from Molde and they were nothing special) and will be a slight step up from Tripolis or Brondy imo.

Agree with all of this, a good summary
23-07-2021, 08:53 PM
CMurdoch

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Originally Posted by Onion

IMO any team which has played regularly in Europe invariably know how to deal with the atmosphere and referee. Gamesmanship, keeping the head or riling up the opposition and ability to put pressure on the ref cannot be underestimated. Have too often seen the better side beaten by streetwise opposition in Europe. It's very different to playing domestic matches.

Good post Onion
As well as playing to the best of their ability Hibs players require to have their cool adult heads on at all times so as not to get drawn into needless conflict and gamesmanship.
A big jump in quality from the current round but we could win if we don't get suckered.
23-07-2021, 09:02 PM
SON OF PADDY

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Originally Posted by HendoDelivered

There was over 4600 there… 3 tickets away from max allocation.

Official attendance at the game was 4697
23-07-2021, 09:50 PM
southern hibby

Not sure if we will beat them or not ( hoping we do ). However I’m glad we’re in Europe and getting there at least gives us more experience for our next European game/adventure.

GGTTH
23-07-2021, 10:37 PM
007

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Originally Posted by Souter96Mac

No reason why we can't beat them over 2 legs. If we can keep solid defensively, we've got the attacking players there that can score goals against pretty much anyone.

Unsure how possible it is, or if he'd need to isolate or whatever, but if we can even get Mueller in ahead of that tie, that could be an even bigger boost.

They've said he won't be here until January after Orlando's season is finished. Don't think we'll see him right away, at least not until after Chris Mueller's Day Off. Mueller....Mueller...Mueller...
23-07-2021, 10:46 PM
CapitalGreen

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Originally Posted by .Sean.

Gutted we won’t have an official allocation and that sitting in the home end sounds very much a no-go after a bit research. Quite easy to get there via London. Looks like some place which would have meant it would have been some trip :boo hoo:

Unless you were unable to get tickets, you’d have no issues attending the game in the home end. The “radges” for all clubs congregate together (typically behind the goals on the continent). Avoid these fans and you’d be absolutely fine.
23-07-2021, 10:46 PM
roc1

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Originally Posted by Onion

IMO any team which has played regularly in Europe invariably know how to deal with the atmosphere and referee. Gamesmanship, keeping the head or riling up the opposition and ability to put pressure on the ref cannot be underestimated. Have too often seen the better side beaten by streetwise opposition in Europe. It's very different to playing domestic matches.

100% correct. Seen it in Europe since the sixties🙄
23-07-2021, 11:16 PM
King Cosell

Looking at their 2020/21 top 5 goalscorers on Wiki. 1 player (14 goals) off to China, 2 players (10 and 8 goals) to Dinamo Zagreb. That leaves Robert Muric (12 goals) and Josip Drmic, Swiss international on loan from Norwich (7 goals). Don't know if it's a cost-cutting but it looks like they might be weaker than last season.
24-07-2021, 06:27 AM
Col L

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Originally Posted by H18 SFR

I agree and a better manager as well.

Interesting that people think we have a better team now than we did then. Player for player I would say we don’t. We had a shocking keeper(s) back then and undoubted flaws in that Mowbray squad, but it was largely the group that went on to win the League cup in 2007.

Even the team that got pumped in the away leg in Dnipro had some serious quality in it….maybe no so much the subs’ bench right enough! Can’t remember why now but Scott Brown was also absent.

Hibernian: Malkowski, Beuzelin (Fletcher 66), Caldwell, Murphy, O'Connor (Morrow 77), Riordan, Sproule, Stewart (Shiels 72), Hogg, Thomson, Whittaker.
Subs Not Used: Simon Brown, Glass, Konte, Rudge.

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24-07-2021, 06:39 AM
Steve20

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Originally Posted by PatHead

Think our team is better than it was when we played those games. Can only hope.

No way is this team better than Mowbray's. Not even close.

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Originally Posted by H18 SFR

I agree and a better manager as well.

No again. And not even close.
24-07-2021, 06:49 AM
Greenbeard

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Originally Posted by Gmack7

I think we go into the champions league 🥂

:greengrin
24-07-2021, 06:56 AM
Renfrew_Hibby

Isn't it amazing the huge jump in class from this round to the next?

My thoughts on Rijeka? They should be technically and tactically ahead of us, sure we can match them for athleticism and passion but remember Croatia at this time of year is generally very hot and they will be much more adapt at playing in furnace conditions.

I would imagine that over the two legs the game could pan out in the same way as the recent Scotland v Croatia Euro match where the Scots were taught a lesson or two and made to look bang average.

Of course I hope I'm wrong, I know on our day we can be very proficient and play some good stuff, maybe I'm doing our club and domestic game a disservice?

If Rijeka have offloaded some players for decent €s it's maybe to help fund the rebuild of their stadium. Are they not the club who's ground is sandwiched between a cliff and the water, with one end overlooking the town? Incredibly picturesque but totally ramshackled. I'm sure there is an amazing redevelopment planned that will not be cheap!
24-07-2021, 07:30 AM
B.H.F.C

Looks like they had some decent results in the Europa League last year.

Beat Copenhagen 1-0 in the playoff round which would be a similar standard of opposition to when we played Brondby a few years back (a tie we should have won). Lost their first four group games and looks like they scraped a couple of results in the last couple, against decent opposition though.

Definitely don’t think it’s the worst draw we could have got and definitely think we have a chance of going through.
24-07-2021, 08:23 AM
Clarence

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Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby

Isn't it amazing the huge jump in class from this round to the next?

My thoughts on Rijeka? They should be technically and tactically ahead of us, sure we can match them for athleticism and passion but remember Croatia at this time of year is generally very hot and they will be much more adapt at playing in furnace conditions.

I would imagine that over the two legs the game could pan out in the same way as the recent Scotland v Croatia Euro match where the Scots were taught a lesson or two and made to look bang average.

Of course I hope I'm wrong, I know on our day we can be very proficient and play some good stuff, maybe I'm doing our club and domestic game a disservice?

If Rijeka have offloaded some players for decent €s it's maybe to help fund the rebuild of their stadium. Are they not the club who's ground is sandwiched between a cliff and the water, with one end overlooking the town? Incredibly picturesque but totally ramshackled. I'm sure there is an amazing redevelopment planned that will not be cheap!

First three paragraphs are bang on with my thoughts on this tie. I’m looking forward to the game more than any game for a long time (forget about May) but I’m realistic about our chances.
24-07-2021, 09:46 AM
Ringothedog

I would rate this game 50/50, yes they are a good team but they have had 7 players leave who were mostly on loan. Yes they will be a good team but what they did 2, 5 or 10 years ago is irrelevant. It’s the team they have now that i am concerned about, i am sure nobody on here knows how good or bad a team they really are. We will find out soon enough
24-07-2021, 09:56 AM
NORTHERNHIBBY

I doubt that they will be overly concerned about playing us but we have a chance.
24-07-2021, 10:00 AM
O'Rourke3

We don't have a great record in Central Europe. Videoton is the only victory I can recall. Be good to break that streak.

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24-07-2021, 11:52 AM
tamig

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Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby

Isn't it amazing the huge jump in class from this round to the next?

My thoughts on Rijeka? They should be technically and tactically ahead of us, sure we can match them for athleticism and passion but remember Croatia at this time of year is generally very hot and they will be much more adapt at playing in furnace conditions.

I would imagine that over the two legs the game could pan out in the same way as the recent Scotland v Croatia Euro match where the Scots were taught a lesson or two and made to look bang average.

Of course I hope I'm wrong, I know on our day we can be very proficient and play some good stuff, maybe I'm doing our club and domestic game a disservice?

If Rijeka have offloaded some players for decent €s it's maybe to help fund the rebuild of their stadium. Are they not the club who's ground is sandwiched between a cliff and the water, with one end overlooking the town? Incredibly picturesque but totally ramshackled. I'm sure there is an amazing redevelopment planned that will not be cheap!

They’ve been playing temporarily at another ground for 5 or 6 years now. The old stadium is owned by the city and is being refurbished but not sure how much a contribution - if any - the club will be making to that.
24-07-2021, 11:56 AM
BILLYHIBS

Croatia would have been a barry trip beautiful country

Anyone going remember to take their currency
24-07-2021, 01:15 PM
CMurdoch

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

Croatia would have been a barry trip beautiful country

Anyone going remember to take their currency

Edit: Return leg behind closed doors

That really would have been a great trip.
Shame:confused:
24-07-2021, 01:31 PM
BILLYHIBS

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Originally Posted by CMurdoch

That really would have been a great trip.
Shame:confused:

Sorry was talking pish

Should be a good trip ��
25-07-2021, 05:06 PM
badabing67

I take it, if both us and Rijeka get through to the next round. They will be the seeded side and the second leg of the tie will be a home game for them. Is that right or wrong
25-07-2021, 05:07 PM
TheHibernator

Playing now in the league against Istra1961.
Stream on hesgoal
25-07-2021, 05:15 PM
hibbysam

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Originally Posted by badabing67

I take it, if both us and Rijeka get through to the next round. They will be the seeded side and the second leg of the tie will be a home game for them. Is that right or wrong

They’re at home second purely because of the way the draw came out rather than due to them being seeded.
25-07-2021, 05:27 PM
H18 SFR

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Originally Posted by Anthony Soprano

Playing now in the league against Istra1961.
Stream on hesgoal

How do they look?
25-07-2021, 05:51 PM
TheHibernator

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Originally Posted by H18 SFR

How do they look?

Good technically as expected, move the ball quickly and, they like ball over the top of the defence and are accurate with them as well. Should be at least 2 or 3 up, 4 good chances, 1 an absolute sitter. Half time 0-0. Not familiar with the opposition but they finished 9th in Croatian league so riejka looking to win comfortably anyway.

Will definitely be a tough game should we play them would need to stay switched on, think we could struggle in the away leg.

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