I've not had a holiday for 3 years so I'm hoping to be able to catch a bargain to get there in the first place and end up quarantined for a few bonus weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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I've not had a holiday for 3 years so I'm hoping to be able to catch a bargain to get there in the first place and end up quarantined for a few bonus weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
:faf: Stealing that Richard.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiBremian
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
I was just thinking the same thing, mon the cheap flights :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Initially been quarantined in a hotel sounds great until you realise its actually your hotel room. Sack that, much rather be at home with all my gadgets if I've to stayed locked up thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
It's pretty much what I do on holiday. If I sit by the pool, the missus expects me to talk to her.Quote:
Originally Posted by DH1875
Get in! 🍺Quote:
Originally Posted by HiBremian
That's the good doctors wife been confirmed as having it so now you got to factor everyone she's been around in the hotel.
Apparently he was unwell for a few days before getting checked out. What a phanny.
I have cancelled a holiday to Malta at the end of April. Was travelling alone so no one is let down apart from myself.
I am heading to Devon next week, not too bothered about the train but not too keen on the tube across London, I always hate that anyway, will be travelling at the quietest times or may even walk from Kingsx to Paddington
Heading to Fuerteventura next week. It's a case of Keep Calm and Carry On for me. I hope my immune system is up to the job if I get it.
Just driven to Aberdeen and I have to say the risks in that journey worry me more. (The road journey, not being in Aberdeen.)
I read an article yesterday saying that it’s likely that 70% of the worlds population is now likely to contract it. It’s now moved past the stage where it can be contained. Luckily relatively few people die from it and it likely to be less deadly than the flu is each year (1500-2000 deaths a day through flu season).
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Is there a chance the warmer weather could impact the viruses ability to survive? Flu is generally a winter illness and it's suggested humidity and increased time spent in close proximity indoors in winter plays a part in that. Could this see something similar happen?
The hope, from what I heard on radio, is that warmer weather will reduce its impact. The problem they have is that they don't know if it will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I'm no expert but it seems less likely given it originated in China where it is already fairly mild. :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
I assume that's different to the strains of flu which are regularly here during the winter - coming to a fore in the cold British climate.
I was wondering what sense the statement made, when it is winter in 50% of the planet, at any given time. Maybe they were just talking about the risks in Britain.Quote:
Originally Posted by danhibees1875
It's winter in 50% of the planet, 50% of the time. When it's spring/autumn in the 2 hemispheres, it's winter nowhere!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataplana
Also, about 90% of the world's population live in the northern hemisphere.
Ireland vs Italy rugby has now been cancelled.
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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Wuhan in December / January would not be warm. Probably slightly warmer than here at that time of year but certainly not warm.Quote:
Originally Posted by danhibees1875
Have there been recovery’s made yet?
It's not fatal. From what I understand it's the frail and elderly who are most at risk - a bit like the flu but worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
????? I'm not sure about this. The guy who has it in Germany is only in his 40s and is in intensive care. Some of the people who died in China were in their 30s and 40s including the doctors. The frail and elderly might be most at risk but think any can croc it. Saw a report earlier that suggests it 40% deadlier than flu.As for temperatures. It's not exactly hot in the north of Italy in February either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
That's all I said - I'm no expert tough.Quote:
Originally Posted by DH1875
I didn't look much into it. I just seen it was still an issue and it's between 11-18C there this week. So it sounds like a typical Scottish spring isn't going to stop it in its tracks. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
Does it say if the guy was in good health before he caught the virus?Quote:
Originally Posted by DH1875
Edit: on Tuesday evening, he was brought to the university hospital in Düsseldorf. The 47-year-old patient suffers from a pre-existing condition.
https://www.thelocal.de/20200226/two-new-coronavirus-cases-confirmed-in-germany
I saw a bit on the tv saying the eldery, very young and those with underlying health conditions are at risk because it can result in pneumonia. Underlying health conditions could be anything though. Immune deficient, asthmatics, copd etc all could be higher risksQuote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
If you are over 60 , and particularly over 70 or 80, this virus is potentially very serious but the vast majority of people in that age range still make a full recovery or don't have serious symptoms. The last estimate I seen in that age range was a mortality rate of around 5%.
For people under the age of 40 the current mortality rate is around 0.5% which is high but it means around 199/200 people who get it in that age range either don't have serious symptoms or fully recover.
I actually suspect that the mortality rate will eventually turn out to be far lower as there are likely lots of people not being diagnosed as their symptoms are so mild they are not seeking medical treatment. Swine Flu was declared a pandemic in the early 2009 and that eventually had a mortality rate of 0.05%.
Nobody knows for sure why flu spreads more widely in winter but among the possibilities are (from wikipedia flu page):Quote:
Originally Posted by danhibees1875
- People are indoors more often during the winter, they are in close contact more often, and this promotes transmission from person to person.
- A seasonal decline in the amount of ultraviolet radiation may reduce the likelihood of the virus being damaged or killed by direct radiation damage or indirect effects (i. e. ozone concentration) increasing the probability of infection.
- Cold temperatures lead to drier air, which may dehydrate mucous membranes, preventing the body from effectively defending against respiratory virus infections.[2][3][4]
- Viruses are preserved in colder temperatures due to slower decomposition, so they linger longer on exposed surfaces (doorknobs, countertops, etc.).
- In nations where children do not go to school in the summer, there is a more pronounced beginning to flu season, coinciding with the start of public school. It is thought that the day care environment is perfect for the spread of illness.
- Vitamin D production from Ultraviolet-B in the skin changes with the seasons and affects the immune system.
Current death rates (according to a source on Twitter I haven't fact checked):
80+ - 14.8%
70-79 - 8%
60-69 - 3.6%
50-59 - 1.3%
40-49 - 0.4%
30-39 - 0.2%
9-29 - 0.2%
Under 9 - no confirmed deaths.
Obviously that's inaccurate because some of the people currently ill and not deemed recovered could still die and there are probably a lot of people walking about with minor illness who haven't been diagnosed.
Free online courses to help understanding of the virus are available here:
http://www.openculture.com/2020/02/free-courses-on-the-coronavirus-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-emerging-pandemic.html
I've not read them, but the sources appear to be a high calibre.