Embarrassing "support" today

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Originally Posted by jacomo

He was a stand out for me today.

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What?!

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Originally Posted by jacomo

He was a stand out for me today.

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Come on mate, I love Scotty as much as the next guy but he was pish. Hung out to dry playing out on the right. The one time he wandered centrally he setup the goal

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Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys

Where were you sitting?

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This is what I want to know, because where I was (upper East near to the FF) the support was decent and good-natured. What frustrated the fans was watching 90 minutes of us giving the ball away and inviting pressure.

We gifted St Johnstone a point today imo.

Scott Allan substitution got booed because he was the best player on the park. Acknowledging Liam Craig and Swanson as ex-Hibbys is not an issue.

Allan was one of our best players today despite playing in a wired-to-the-moon mental position.

Our best formation in decades had him playing behind Flo and Jamie.

Do the same again with Flo and Doidge in front of him and stop trying to be clever.

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Originally Posted by tonyrougier123

The stats dont lie,46%hibs 54%saints.hibs 9 shots saints 18.
Grimm.
No high press,no energy infact.
Cant remember for a long time a side like saints dominating us at easter road.
Even the most postive folk must agree needs a huge turnaround!!

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That is horrendous reading. How can anybody defend this coach/ manager, whatever the **** he is meant to be.


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Originally Posted by hibsdaft

We booed our own substitution and cheered one of theirs. Mental, whatever way you look at it.

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I take it that the St Johnstone sub was Swanson.

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Originally Posted by tillguy

They booed the players. That was plainly obvious.

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No it wasn’t. It was aimed at the change.

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Originally Posted by J-C

They booed the manager and his decisions, that was plainly obvious.

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Absolutely. He can talk all he likes as if football was a job for ****in management consultants, but we're not mugs. The way he's setting up the team is idiotic.

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Originally Posted by brianmc

If you think that was toxic you'd probably best sit out the rest of the season because all signs point to things getting much, much worse.

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This much is certain, imho.

Embarrassing 'support'. A noisy minority in the West Lower seem to be taking satisfaction from screaming abuse, it probably distracts from their rubbish week at work.

Aye very good blame the support. The booing was born out of sheer frustration. He started our best player out wide then took him off while leaving Mallan and Vela on. He deserves all the stick he got today. GGTTH.

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Originally Posted by Squirrel 1875

No it wasn’t. It was aimed at the change.

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Any manager should know Allan will give you very little played wide compared to central. Heckingbottom SHOULD know that. To sub him off and replace him with Horgan was in my opinion the wrong move. Mallan should have been off and Allan moved to centre with Horgan taking his place wide right.
For me that shows a really big question mark hanging over Heckingbottom. ..

The booing was a bit much, can’t have helped either Slivka or Horgans confidence. Was a mental sub though, why you take off our best creative talent and a striker at 1-0 is beyond me. Allan out wide is completely wasted as he is by far and away our best midfielder and our best creative talent. The booing was at Heckingbottoms decision, which was baffling. Again a bit much though, should have at least tried to encourage the two people coming on.

The booing at the Allan substitution was instant and spontaneous and rang out around the stadium.

It wasn’t a tiny minority.

Fans instinctively know what they like or don’t like when they see it and there is no way that all those in the stadium were wrong.

You might not like it, but most of us know we need a new manager.

The rest of you will get there eventually!!

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Embarrassing 'support'. A noisy minority in the West Lower seem to be taking satisfaction from screaming abuse, it probably distracts from their rubbish week at work.

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Probably the same ones that booed Middleton taking a corner. It didn’t happen according to some on here though...

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Embarrassing 'support'. A noisy minority in the West Lower seem to be taking satisfaction from screaming abuse, it probably distracts from their rubbish week at work.

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The denial is unreal, I would argue it was 50% or more that booed, think most would agree.

I thought the support was fine today other than the boos at the subs. The performance was a long way from being great, but we were winning, joint top of the league, and 1 win away from Hampden in the cup - all in all, it didn't seem like the time to boo.

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Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys

Where were you sitting?

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In the West Lower where my season ticket is.

I've always found it funny that fans get stick for asking players and manager to apologise, even simply walking over and holding hands up to fans. this can go so far as to say to fellow paying fan to man up and dont expect an apology for everything that goes wrong in your life. All the while fans are protective of grown men not doing their jobs and being paid, in part, by the aforementioned fans.

Dont tell fans to man up and then be like an over protective parent for the manager and players. They are men, they are well paid and they are there to do a job. We aren't supporting a local boys team or something. Boo gets the message across as there is clearly problems at the club.

High press = no press. We've signed so many midfielders and have no midfield. Shambles deserves booing as today was torturous.

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Originally Posted by Since452

One of the most toxic atmospheres i can remember at Easter Road. Even worse than the dark days of Lennon. The players confidence looks shot with all the booing. Really really sad. Im sure a bit of real support would have got us over the line today. I'm off this for a while before the inevitable abuse us directed my way.

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Totally agree booing generally doesn't lead to an improvement in player performance however these are professional footballers who are paid to perform as such. It is becoming increasingly clear that many are simply not good enough. Manager is rightly becoming under increasing scrutiny and some of his decision making is cause for major concern in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

The booing at the Allan substitution was instant and spontaneous and rang out around the stadium.

It wasn’t a tiny minority.

Fans instinctively know what they like or don’t like when they see it and there is no way that all those in the stadium were wrong.

You might not like it, but most of us know we need a new manager.

The rest of you will get there eventually!!

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Most fans probably didn't like the idea of taking Allan off.
Some fans didn't like it and started booing.
Some fans didn't like it and didn't boo.

Do what you think is right. Personally I think doing the former is counterproductive. And the tone of your final sentence suggests you are taking smug pleasure in it. Which I'm sure isn't your intention. Because that would be dickish.

Where did the huge banner go? Looked good at the St Mirren game.

Blaming the support? That’s a new delusional defence of Heckingbottom’s crap. The supporters pay money to watch a manager set up a team to play eye bleeding football.

Scotty didn’t have his best game, but he played a sublime ball to Doidge just before the sub was made, showing that with the game in the balance, he was the player that could create something.

As for the person who said Allan isn’t as good as Hibs fans believe, behave yourself. He’s even better.

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Originally Posted by skyhibs

It’s folk like you that are happy with the dross on the park... let’s boo even more till heck gets to ****

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I'm not happy. Where did I say that?

I didn’t boo btw.

I was pretty shocked at the time but I actually think it’s a good thing.

The club are carrying on as if everything is fine.

The fans are letting them know that it isn’t.

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Originally Posted by Steve20

Blaming the support? That’s a new delusional defence of Heckingbottom’s crap. The supporters pay money to watch a manager set up a team to play eye bleeding football.

Scotty didn’t have his best game, but he played a sublime ball to Doidge just before the sub was made, showing that with the game in the balance, he was the player that could create something.

As for the person who said Allan isn’t as good as Hibs fans believe, behave yourself. He’s even better.

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Again, the stupid straw man. Criticising the booing isn't blaming the support for the defeat, it just doesn't help, there's a difference. We were winning 1-0 at the time. As I say, pathetic and embarrassing in the west lower.

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Originally Posted by Steve20

Blaming the support? That’s a new delusional defence of Heckingbottom’s crap. The supporters pay money to watch a manager set up a team to play eye bleeding football.

Scotty didn’t have his best game, but he played a sublime ball to Doidge just before the sub was made, showing that with the game in the balance, he was the player that could create something.

As for the person who said Allan isn’t as good as Hibs fans believe, behave yourself. He’s even better.

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It's pretty well established that the atmosphere of the match impacts the players, which is why teams' form more often than not is stronger at home. The fans aren't responsible but booing and creating a hostile, negative home atsmosphere is the single most helpful thing home fans can do for the opposition.

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Originally Posted by Steve20

Blaming the support? That’s a new delusional defence of Heckingbottom’s crap. The supporters pay money to watch a manager set up a team to play eye bleeding football.

Scotty didn’t have his best game, but he played a sublime ball to Doidge just before the sub was made, showing that with the game in the balance, he was the player that could create something.

As for the person who said Allan isn’t as good as Hibs fans believe, behave yourself. He’s even better.

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It was almost like he took him off because he had the cheek to drift from his ridiculous right wing position.

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Originally Posted by hibshibshibs1

It's pretty well established that the atmosphere of the match impacts the players, which is why teams' form more often than not is stronger at home. The fans aren't responsible but booing and creating a hostile, negative home atsmosphere is the single most helpful thing home fans can do for the opposition.

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:top marks

I booed the substitution of Scott Allan and make no apologies for it. I can’t speak for others but it was aimed at Heckingbottom and borne out of frustration that he played our best player out of position where unsurprisingly he looked lost. Yet he still managed to do more than the undroppable invisible man that is Stevie Mallan. How he stayed on the park instead of Scott Allan beIng moved centrally is a mystery to me.

Back to the Butcher days...blame the fans.

If some folk are getting upset at football fans booing then they can't have been to many games. It happens, it's not nice but if your team is getting outplayed by what was probably the worst team in the league on current form and the manager plays your best player in a ridiculous position then takes him off instead of taking off either of the pair of non-performers in centre mid then it'll definitely happen.