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Your point was that “the reasoning about it doesn’t matter”. Well, Tommy Robinson is using “Muslim rape gangs” to forward the idea that Islam is not compatible with western society, and people are falling for it. He’s doing more harm than good on a societal level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Trager
I agree with this article and the way it describes the differences between paedophile rings and these Muslim grooming gangs. And before anyone starts, it’s penned by a rape survivor and in a newspaper with a neutral editorial stance.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...831.html%3famp
One thing that jumps out is her opinion (which is shared by other victims) that people like Robinson, who want to tar all Muslims with the same brush, certainly aren’t helping.
I actually agree with a lot of what he says about grooming gangs and terrorism etc...more should be done to stop indoctrination and preachers of hate should be punished.
However, once you watch a few of his videos you can see through the veneer. He wants to propogate the idea that there is something fundamentally wrong with the faith and anyone who follows it, creating the narrative that there will never be social compatibility. One example is a video where there are a group of Asians fighting...”out of control” is the headline, as if it’s only Asians that fight.
However, if people continually dismiss obvious links that are staring everyone in the face, it will probably force others into believing people like Robinson and seeing him as some sort of visionary.
Can anyone explain why people like Gary Glitter and his ilk, had no reporting restrictions when they are in court, but these muslim grooming gangs do?
Surely the law should be the same for every religion?
The law is the same for everyone. It's just nobody else was stupid enough to turn up at court during a trial and attempt to broadcast slanderous claims of guilt before the trial was concluded. He was on a yellow card already so he shouldn't be surprised he got red.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
The judge sums it up quite nicely:
In short, Mr. Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as ‘Muslim paedophiles, Muslim rapists’ and so on and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside. Do you understand? Thank you very much.
I couldnt be arsed watching the video he did, is that what he was doing slandering folk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
I only read a few posts that said he was reporting live on what they were up on charge with, like i have seen many times on mainstream tv.
You probably read the same Tweet as I did. [emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
The point was well-made that reporting restrictions are put in place for a variety of reasons. It's unlikely that religion will be one of them.
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Yip it came up on my twitter page, :agree: i did also read on there that his arrest and appearance in court was quick, all done in a few hours and handed a jail sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
If he's guilty, he's only himself to blame.
From the outside looking in, it does seem he's being given special treatment. :greengrin
Tommy Robinson as I understand was not actually on court property, just talking into his phone.
To me it smells of MI5. The growth of the internet has provided platforms like never before and it scares the establishment.
The old cries of racism are starting to become meaningless for some. This is a culture war waiting to happen.
I think it's perfectly possible that you can become so obsessed with an issue that confirmation bias overrules everything and you see only what you want to see. In this instance Robinson is utterly convinced that there is a conspiracy to protect and hide gangs of Muslim men committing deplorable acts and that's the only explanation for reporting restrictions that he can comprehend.
I'd suggest there are a few potential explanations for the restrictions. Firstly witness and victim protection. Minority groups often live in communities within communities and it stands to reasons if the faces of the men on trial were splashed all over the paper identification of witnesses and victims and potential for pressure or intimidation is heightened. Secondly it could be possible the Police have attempted to 'flip' one or more of the accused, if they have been sent back into a community to try and expose further organised paedophilia it probably doesn't do their cover any good if people they are known to have associated with are men who are publicly on trial. It's also not impossible that as part of the investigation the Police have passed information over to the SIS. Contrary to the James Bond image the current requirements in a British spy are far more likely to be fluency in Arabic and the ability to engage with the Muslim community as opposed to being a hard drinking, womanising, upper middle class muscleman in a tuxedo. If there are ongoing investigations in a particular area again having people from that community all over the papers is potentially compromising. I'm not suggesting I'm correct and Robinson is wrong, it's just worth considering there are a myriad number of reasons as to why restrictions have been put in place.
Finally the idea that Robinson has exposed this gang or any other is fanciful at best. The fact there is an ongoing trial suggests the authorities are well aware of these activities and are dealing with them. 'Successful' paedophile rings tend to be good at what they do and it can take years to untangle the networks; there are likely to be many investigations going on. Rather than exposing this group what Robinson has actually done is potentially jeopardise years of work and investigation to satisfy his own ego. If the trial collapses or an appeal is heard claiming mistrial it's possible a group of dangerous, predatory men could be released onto the streets. I think Robinson has been treated as a special case by being charged and sentenced so quickly but I'd argue it's for the protection of years of work to get these guys off the street rather than as part of an establishment ploy to turn a blind eye to paedophilia within the Muslim community.
I don't see a link to this clearly made up Daily Mail wet dream fantasy story. Have I missed it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
I'm not sure if the post was a wind up or not? There are plenty genuine concerns about Islam and the Islamic migration into Europe without having to opt for the two scenarios he chose to highlight lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
I'm not sure why this is relevant?Quote:
Originally Posted by jockodile
Sentenced to 13 months.
Yes. I recall his campaign against paedophilia in the Catholic church.Quote:
Originally Posted by SRHibs
He is a hate filled person....has no interest in protecting the vulnerable ...this tweet sums it up for me Attachment 20834
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Irony is he's went down for longer than the grooming gang members will go down for.
At least we can all sit and have a chug about diversity and how racist Robinson is.
What do you base your latest garbage on, when the last instance of a gang being prosecuted for this resulted in a minimum term of 4 years for one of those involved, going up to 12 years and citizenship removals?Quote:
Originally Posted by IGRIGI
The fact that he's a racist twonk doesn't factor into that he broke the law and has been punished.
Just a crying shame that he'll (probably) get out to spew his bile in the not-too-distant future.
That's just nonsense though isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by IGRIGI
A 2 second search on Google shows that in 2017 a Muslim man convicted of grooming in Ashton under Lyme got 4 years and 6 months, 2 Asian men convicted of a rape in Accrington in 2012 got indefinite sentences, The Aylesbury ring that was tried in 2015 saw sentences of 3 to 19 years, The Banbury ring got sentences ranging from 3 to 9 years, a case in Birkenhead in 2017 saw a sentence of 4 years, 2 guys in Birmingham in 2017 got 10 and 5 years respectively, another case in the same city in 2017 saw a sentence of 7 years.
I'm not sure if Robinson has been harshly treated for a contempt of court sentence but the claims he 'got longer than the paedos will' doesn't add up no matter how loud and how often people shout it.
Do you actually believe this stuff ??Quote:
Originally Posted by IGRIGI
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Is this an extract from some kind of Tommy Robinson fan club statement?Quote:
Originally Posted by IGRIGI
Have a word.Quote:
Originally Posted by IGRIGI
Hopefully for him he doesn't bump into any Muslims in the pokey.
Like the man who was sent to jail for putting bacon on a mosque door handle and was then murdered in jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs
I can't help but think Tommy Robinson is an agent provocateur. His rise to fame and the publicity he receives reeks of being a plant.
Too late!Quote:
Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs
http://newsthump.com/2018/05/29/form...erts-to-islam/
You mean this guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.c...e-7573478/amp/
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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Cover story.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
The Mecca chapter of the Luciferians got to him.
Yes that is him. Ok I over stepped the mark by saying he was murdered I thought he had been.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Your on the right track of thought but go a little deeper with it, think about what Salman Rushdie was saying!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
So does this mean there probably won’t be any reruns of Blackadder or Time Team for a while?
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