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Harry who?
Best ignored. Bad challenge, should have been sent off. I think in ten years time, this will probably be the highlight of his career when he recounts his past football experiences to the guys down at some second division team. "Do you remember the day I chopped down Scotland star, John McGinn".
You need to read my later post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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My jambo mate says there are in transition, money needed for the stand, injuries yadayada. Translated means we're skint and we are better than them. He did point out they are still close to us which is true and hopefully we can finish off teams when so on top. I'm sure we will be top six but we would be third if we had converted the draws with dundee and St Johnstone into wins. As for injuries I pointed out stokes, mcgregor, swanson, Fontaine to which he let slip that we have a strong squad and that potter almost achieved a bore draw if Murray hadn't have scored. Even he is hoodwinked by Potter and he's one of the sane jambos.
An inexperienced 16 year old lets his frustration get the better of him.
It was a shocker of a tackle and he showed have walked (personally I think if it was an older player he would have and the ref cut him a break).
However there’s no need for some of the abuse being directed at the boy. Some of you are acting as if none of our players have ever put in a shocker of a tackle.
FFS is this still being discussed? Yes it should have a been a red, but how many players (ours included) would take down the player instead of letting them get in on goal? Its a professional foul.
Put it this way, reverse the situation and scoreline and i bet the vast majority on here would be livid had a hibs player not took the man down and let him through on goal in a Derby. McGinn is even in the paper saying there is no hard feelings. Lets move on.
A professional foul is pulling his shirt or tripping him, this was trying to injured someone who made him look like the silly laddy that he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibee87
I'm sure deeks got sent off for doing similar to big nose in one derby. They always seem to get away with this on the pitch. I'm sure they have been done a good few times by the compliance officer after the game which gives no advantage to us at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibee87
It was a professional foul with intent to injure = red card.
Remember that, right through the back of him just outside the hearts 18 yard line. Think he was captain that day also. Don't remember many people on here celebrating the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firestarter
Theres been several derbies over the years where we had been needing a player to put that kind of reckless challenge in....maybe we wouldnt have lost so many games if they had
OK maybe my wording of prof fouls was incorrect, but do you honestly think his thought and intetion was to Injure him. Im pretty sure it was a split second '**** he is in on goal, im taking him down' ......mountain is being made here IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Aye, cos it worked for them on Tuesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by CRAZYHIBBY
Whether his intention was to injure or not the reckless nature of the challenge knee high could easily have ended up in a bad long term injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibee87
Surely you can only claim to NEARLY getting a "bore draw" if its a late winner??? They were 1 down after 3 minutes :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by mjhibby
Yeah he was captain that day too - perhaps Calderwood :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by -Jonesy-
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Originally Posted by AllyRae
Correct - I'm sorry, but for me he only got away with it because he's 16. And the only reason anyone has any sympathy with him now, is because he's 16.Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
Calumhibee is spot on - that wasn't "late" or "mistimed". The ball was long gone, and he had at least 3 or 4 seconds to decide not to make that tackle - but no, he went right ahead and took John out. "Hating losing" does not excuse recklessly and deliberately cleaning players out. If you are gonnae make premeditated "challenges" like that, you have to expect some abuse, and frankly you deserve it.
So, 16 or not 16 - ****** him, dirty wee Hearts bast**d.
Looks a real talent - very quick feet. Would have been quite a learning 45 mins for him ....Quote:
Originally Posted by AllyRae
On the list of things wrong with that club a 16 year old doing something incredibly daft is pretty low down.
He never should have been near the pitch in the first place, that's Potters fault.
Not condoning the tackle, it was awful and without question the easiest red you'll ever see but for me his age is absolutely a factor. When you put young, inexperienced kids in situations they aren't ready for they do stupid (and sometimes dangerous things) - is that a surprise?
Dave Beaumont anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibee87
Cochrane is supposed to be a professional footballer, so his age is irrelevant and if he commits a foul like that then he deserves to get abuse from the opposing fans.
Where has been getting abuse, other than on here? YouQuote:
Originally Posted by Eyrie
If SJM had done that tackle on Cochrane kickback would've had a thread 50 pages long by now slating him.
The rules for the compliance officer should be changed so yellow cards can be upgraded to reds.
That’s the first time I’ve seen that. Unbelievable that he wasn’t given a red card.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Yeah and Ian Murray got sent off for a similar one on McGeady once in a game towards end of the season at Parkhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firestarter
Yet we've seen this shocker on McGinn and Stevie Mays assault on Boyle which only got yellow cards. The refs don't apply the laws. I'm amazed McGinn hasn't had a serious injury with some of the treatment he's had this season
It WAS assault -not one of those mis-placed/mis-timed things ! Even if the little-b*****d had stopped to say sorry or even looked at SJM to see how he was, it might've helped things but he doesn't - just gets up and scampers off !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
It'd be really interesting to see a video of their bench/Levein when it happened - getting an image of the proud Levein standing there with a 'That's ma boy' look on his coupon !!
At the game according to this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
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Originally Posted by AllyRae
In some respects you have to admire a 16 year old getting stuck in to the opposition and abusing the ref (more than once) in the way he did - takes guts and what you might call 'character'. Ultimately though he's a professional footballer, put in a shocking challenge (as well as a couple of others that may well have warranted a card), and therefore deserves to be berated just like any other player (regardless of age) in the same situation. Sorry :yamlaugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by AllyRae
nope. actual assaultQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
tonight is the first I have heard of this so called abuse. is it on social media? at the match, feelings are high in a derby, and some might rant abuse which is fairly normal if I can say, when the end result is Paramount. no one near me in the East actually wanted him to die of Aids. that comment is more than silly. his action though was unbelievably silly. I await your comment on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHarpy76
Absolutely. Those of us with a memory of the yams over manies a year will always pre warn of yam aggression and physicality that won't always be punished while a more moderate Hibs tackle was overly punished. Think of Stuart Dougal and nothing more needs to be said. There has been a few recent reverses with Steven McLean in the SC v Hun final being most noticeable and most gratefully accepted when we won the Holy Grail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firestarter
GGTTH
Oh aye, he's a character right enough, what a laddie , what's he gonnae dae next his Da might say:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by E10 Rifle
MonktonHarp, must have had an altercation with an imaginary fan then 🙄 Point was the abuse was ott not whether it was a red or not, it was 100% a red.