Looks like the regionalisation is applied to the unseeded teams only.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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Looks like the regionalisation is applied to the unseeded teams only.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Every year the European draws come round, I go looking for the “principles set by the club competitions committee”. I’ve never been able to find them.
Edit: I’ve actually found them this time, this is the version for the season just ended: https://editorial.uefa.com/resources...r_ko_phase.pdf
Still doesn’t make it clear how they decide on the groupings :rolleyes:
I don't think we can draw Utrecht as they are unseeded too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
So one of Braga, midtjylland, Anderlecht or Lugano.Quote:
Originally Posted by BS44
I know midtjylland have done well in Europe recently but would they be likely to lose players most summers on the back of doing well? I know we’d be big underdogs but would we have any sort of a chance against them?
Teams we can face in QR2:
Seeded confirmed in QR2
Braga
Midtjylland
Anderlecht
Lugano
Seeded if they win in QR1:
Shakhtar
Legia Warsaw
Sheriff
Partizan
Unseeded from QR1 who we could only face if they win against Shakhtar, Sheriff, Partizan or Warsaw in QR1:
Larnaca
Häcken
Paks
Levski Sofia
Sabah
Ilves
Aktobe
Prishtina
Sorry I’ve missed it, but happens if we win this and lose the 3rd qualifying round?
I’d say it’d be very difficult. At glance, they seem about on par with Lugano but with the benefit for us that Midtjylland would be seeded in QR3 unlike Lugano so it’s probably the preferable of the two since we would become seeded for QR3 by beating them. Probably the joint 4th hardest draw after Shakhtar, Braga and Anderlecht.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
We would be playing them right at the start of their League which historically seems to benefit Scandinavian teams in the early stages of Europe, though they do start a lot later than the Swedish and Norwegian leagues so it’s less of a factor.
We drop to the conference league playoff round, which is an all or nothing tie to enter the conference league groups or go home.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm_cabbaged
anyone tell me what time the draw is at on the 18th?
Aye, just found it. It’s a tough ask if we’re going into each round unseeded. Would be one of the clubs biggest accomplishments reaching the league stage of either!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
We are confirmed un-seeded in Europa League QR2. To be seeded in QR3 we would need to beat Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht or Midtjylland. All very tough task. In terms of being seeded should we drop to the Conference league, Wikipedia has the following.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm_cabbaged
If we drop to Conference league QR3 by loosing our very first tie:
Seeded:
“Loser of the tie involving Scotland Hibernian“
If we drop to the Conference league playoff round by winning our first tie, then losing our second:
Seeded:
“5 losers of the Europa League third qualifying round”
I have no idea what draw would result in us being one of those five teams but it sounds like it is possible.
As far I can tell, drawing to play against, and winning the easiest draw possible in QR2 (FC Sheriff?), then drawing to play against in QR3 one of the 5 teams that would make us seeded for the conference league playoffs should we loose, is our best path to group stage football.
Thanks Paul, just get through this one and hope for the best, eh!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Braga’s stadium is iconic.Quote:
Originally Posted by BS44
When did that change? It was "confirmed" that the loser of the tie involving Hibernian would be unseeded in the CL QR 3 when I looked a couple of weeks ago. The wikipedia entry has now moved us/our Europa League opponents to the be confirmed column from the unseeded column.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Braga would be an unbelievable trip. We'd get a doing though as they're a top team.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Don't think this is quite right - if we were in the Europa Q3 when the conference play-off draw was made we would be unseeded no matter who we are playing. As UEFA assume the unseeded team will lose, so use their coefficient in the draw for the next round in the lower tiered competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
I don't think that is correct, there are 13 unseeded teams with a higher coefficient than us. This website is far more accurate than Wikipedia when it comes to these things,Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedco2025.html
Yeah, the wiki pages for these European competitions change by the day. Us and other teams have switched between 'seeded / unconfirmed /unseeded' over the last couple of weeks.
Maybe closer to the draw they will be authentic, but as it stands no one knows really if the easier path to league stage football by Christmas is via the Europa or Conference League.
We could be drawn against Braga in the Europa League, get punted, then AZ Alkmaar in the Conference League and we will be out. Know this is negative but these would be a couple of good trips.
It will be clearer in two weeks time.
The Bert kassies site listed above is generally better than the wikipedia, I've foundQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
Has it been announced where Lugano & Shakhtar will be playing there home games?
Why are Lugano not using their own ground?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalkeith Hibs
FC Thun's ground for Lugano. I don't think Lugano's ground is UEFA compliant, looks like it will be in 2026 after some work. https://www.fclugano.com/thun-ospitera-lfc-lugano/Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalkeith Hibs
Shakhtar were playing last seasons European games at Schalke's stadium. There is an article indicating they'll be moving to Krakow for European games this season though.https://sportnews.az/en/football/sha...ches-in-poland
Doesn’t meet UEFA requirements.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
Thun is beautiful and easy to get to from Geneva and Basel. Suppose not hugely different to Luzern but still, good trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_ginger_hibee
Hotels are more expensive than baselQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
I'm not sure we'd get a doing, we'd very likely lose the tie but I don't think they're anything close to Villa who absolutely schooled us. If we had the first tie at home I think we'd be competitive, probably lose by a couple over there though.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
I think a lot could depend on when seasons start. If we are a week or two ahead of our opposition in terms of preparing for the season ahead, that could be a bit of a leveller as well. Same applies in reverse unfortunately too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
If you’re talking about a gulf as big as it was between us and Villa then it won’t make that much of a difference but if it’s a team comparable with the likes of rangers and Celtic then it’d give us a bit more of a chance.
Apparently shakhtar will play their home games in Poland , behind closed doors.
Where are you seeing behind closed doors? They didn't last season so not sure why Krakow will be different.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBS NUTS
They played in Germany last year I think, UEFA generally don’t allow netraul venues open to fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
I’m Mabye wrong, as Krakow would be brilliant.👍
They played at the Schalke arena and fans were permitted.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBS NUTS
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
Hopefully we all meet in Krakow 👍
Dynamo Kyiv had fans at their “home” games last season as well (they played in Hamburg). Belarusian teams have been ordered to play behind closed doors due to Belarus’s support for Russia in the Ukraine conflict, so Hearts had no fans away to Dinamo Minsk.
Quite fancy the look of Lugano and always planned on making the trip to lake Como. Pity they don't play there in European games as would have been ideal excuse.
Father's family came from Braga before going to Brasil. Good for the religious fans to.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
Apologies if this has already been said but looking at the teams in the QR1 draw, Partizan Belgrade and FC Prishtina will be kept apart in the pre draw groupings. Meaning the winners of both ties will then also be kept apart in our draw on Wednesday.
Might no mean much for us but be interesting to see who Prishtina get on Tuesday to at least then narrow down who one of the seeded teams will be in each grouping on Wednesday
The groupings are set to be out at 8am on Wednesday before the draw at midday.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
We’re will we find the information, IEFA site ?Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
Yeah I presume so here - https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/draws/Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBS NUTS
The club will also be notified and likely publish it on socials.
It is interesting to me this kind of thing. How UEFA do their pre-draw gymnastics around current geopolitical issues is fascinating. If we progress further in either competition we are likely to be affected some way.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
Just read that Shakhtar will play their R1 and R2 games in Ljubljana.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBS NUTS
Tough opponents but it would be a great trip for us fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fro62_in_Leith
Visited that stadium with Scotland a few years back. Great city!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fro62_in_Leith
That's the third country/city I've read they'll play in (Schalke, Krakow now Ljubljana.) Yet don't see it confirmed officially anywhere. Going to be tricky booking things if we get them....Quote:
Originally Posted by Fro62_in_Leith
Aye Slovenian, is it hard to get toQuote:
Originally Posted by Fro62_in_Leith
Just checked via SkyScanner, no direct flights, but can connect via Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBS NUTS
Seems easy enough to get too.
Decent transport links from Venice, Trieste and Zagreb tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
last time we played in slovenia went manchester to munich then car, remember being in mcds early on match day and guy appeared with couple of kids in a car drove all the way:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
Done similar for Scotland game. Flight to Munich then train through the Alps to Ljubljana...scenic tripQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
You can fly from Gatwick
For those who want to see possible opponents, this Wiki site is usually up to date.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025...play-off_round
I think the draw for the round before us, is tomorrow, will that have any relevance to us and worth keeping an eye out for?
I feel like it does have some relevance and we should pay attention to it, I’m just not entirely sure why so was hoping someone more intelligent than me could join the dots for me please?
Bert Kassies is usually more accurate than the wikiQuote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
Seeding in the Europa League 2025/2026
It doesn't have a massive bearing imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
out of the teams we could draw in Q2: Shakhtar, Legia, Partizan and Sheriff are all in this Q1 draw.
All 4 would be massive favourites against any of the Q1 teams, so whoever they get won't make a massive difference either way.
Of the unseeded Q1 teams the best are probably Hacken or AEK Larnaca, so if any of the mentioned seeded teams were drawn against them then Hibs would benefit if they caused an upset as we could end up playing one of them instead of Shakhtar or Legia etc.
Knowing our luck it'll be Hapoel Be'er Sheva.
Tbf they shouldn't be in the competition, but that's a conversation for another day.
We stopped off there on the way to Maribor, lovely wee place. Nice wee funicular railway up to the castle if you like that sort of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBS NUTS
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergus52
So this is all the teams in the Q1 draw tomorrow. Could we not potentially get Cluj, Hapoel, Celje or Trnava (or their Q1 opponents) as well?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtkDXpnX...name=4096x4096
Winners of those ties are unseeded on Wednesday (as are we) so noQuote:
Originally Posted by LaMotta
Perfect cheers!Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
I don’t think Sheriff would be massive favourites, their European results were awful last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergus52
Also in terms of the unseeded teams, PAKS eliminated Larnaca 5-0 on aggregate last season so will be one of the stronger teams.
So are we still thinking because of the unofficial regionalisation that we can only really get Anderlecht, Braga, Midjtylland or Lugano? Or is there now Cluj, Shaktar etc in the mix?
No, there isn’t really any hard and fast rule of how teams are regionalised. I’ve seen a lot of people predict it on an East/West basis but historical draw groupings suggest this isn’t really how it’s necessarily done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
we Can't get Cluj, trnava, hapoel or celji or whoever beats them as they all go to unseeded in our roundQuote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I’ll second that. Quality place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
J
Sheriff to draw Larnaca, we play the winner. Larnaca upset Sheriff, Hibs away in Cyprus. Dancer.
Cyprus in July 🥵Quote:
Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith
reports that 1st round draw had no groupings appears not to be the case it does
UEFA Europa League first qualifying round draw | UEFA Europa League 2025/26 | UEFA.com
From the groupings, Hacken probably the only unseeded team from group 1 who might be tricky for Shakhtar/Sheriff, but any of the unseeded teams in group 2 could be a banana skin for Legia or Partizan.
Does anyone have any idea how they produce these groups? Azerbaijan and Finland in the same group?
I remember going to the league cup final in the early 90s (it was at Parkhead as Hampden was being done up) where there was a banner saying "Levski Hibs" after the Previous Rangers had been scudded out of Europe by Levski SofiaQuote:
Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith
“In accordance with the relevant decisions of the UEFA Executive Committee, teams from the following associations may not be drawn against each other:Quote:
Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith
Armenia – Azerbaijan
Gibraltar – Spain
Kosovo – Bosnia-Herzegovina
Kosovo – Serbia
Kosovo – Russia*
Ukraine – Russia*
Ukraine – Belarus”
Mainly to keep Partizan and Prishtina apart, not much else matters
They had to keep Partizan and Prishtina apart, that's the only reason I can see for using groupings today.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith
Draw for QR1 is 1500hrs CET
Could we have a recap.
Obviously the Q1, and Q2 draw is tomorrow
We will find out our possible opponents, abiet, the winner of Q1, or just a seeded team in Q2.
Will the draw show who will be at home first.
I’m just a simple man, with simple tastes, a tenants lager drinker.
Please keep the answer as easy as possible .😃
Hibees goes at 12.24. Portman Park , virtual racing 7/1 .
I'm sure the seeded time (which isn't us) play away 1st leg and then home 2nd leg. Not an expert on the matter however so I could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBS NUTS
1st out the hat plays home first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
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There's a third 'bowl' the two drawn teams get put into and then the first one drawn out is at home in the first leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw
Q1 draw today, Q2 (us) tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBS NUTS
UEFA will split the teams for our draw into 2 groups (4 seeds, 4 non-seeds in each) to avoid any political "these teams can't play each other" clashes, so we'll have it narrowed down to 4 before the draw.
Potential opponents are:
Winner of Shakhtar's Q1 tie.
Braga
Midtjylland
Winner of Legia Warsaw's Q1 tie
Anderlecht
Winner of Partizan Belgrade's Q1 tie
Winner of Sheriff Tiraspol's Q1 tie
Lugano
If it’s away first leg I can go. Away second leg, I’m on my holidays.
J
Linfield vs Shelbourne in UCL QR1
We absolutely want Sherrif or Prishtina tomorrow. That would give us a great chance of progressing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
The tie you mention would be kept apart anyway as Partizan and Sherrif are both seeded for QR2.
Assuming Sheriff comes through, if we beat them we'd probably be seeded for Q3 given their coefficient is so good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
Anderlecht
Braga
Lugano
Midtylland
Legia/Aktobe
Partizan/Larnaca
Shakhtar/Tampere
Sheriff/Prishtina
All 8 seeded sides for tomorrow’s draw
According to the kassies website, the likes of Partizan, shaktar and Legia would also be seeded for the 3rd qualifying round.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
Highly unlikely, but the ideal scenario would be us drawing one of them - but they lose their first qualifying round, so we play one of Aktobe, Larnaca or Tampere - little chance of this but one can dream
If there is a geographical divide and its separated from north/south, am I right in saying it would be the top 4 sides we could get?Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
Braga probably the most favourable in terms of a trip but Sheriff the most winnable, followed by Lugano?Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
Do Sheriff play at home or are their ties moved aswell?
Braga:pray:Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
that would be obvious but no one knows how they work out groups, you have a team from Sweden playing a Slovak teamQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
7.30am tomorrow and it will become a little clearer
UEFA Europa League second qualifying round draw | UEFA Europa League 2025/26 | UEFA.com
They play European games in ChisinauQuote:
Originally Posted by Gmack7
Sheriff aren't projected to be seeded, as it stands. Would need a couple of seeds to go out in Q1 to bump them up.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith
Doesn't work like that. Groupings are to prevent any politically charged ties or same countries meeting. UEFA don't share the exact rules on groupings though.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
They still play in their usual stadium/location, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gmack7
Braga would likely be south in that case and probably Lugano too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
My prediction is a group of
Shakhtar
Anderlecht
Midjtyland
Sheriff
From a selfish perspective I'd like Warsaw.
Got a couple of mates there so would save on accommodation costs.
Was brilliant for the Scotland game in NovemberQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
So Moldova then, I would imagine transnistra is closed to Europeans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
Headline writers at the ready for Hibs vs Sheriff/Pristina tomorrow
"Pristina Aguiler-draw"
Hibees Luck Finally Turns with Dirrrrty Draw
"I'll Shoot The Sheriff"
Hibs Ace Aims to Down Moldovans
If we draw one of those sides in Q2, but they go out in Q1, then we don't get to steal their seed for Q3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Souter96Mac
As the Q3 draw is made halfway through Q2, where they'd already be knocked out in this scenario, so we'd use whichever coefficient was higher out of ours or Aktobe, Larnaca etc. for the Q3 draw which would see us unseeded.
Good away day but they would obliterate us over two legsQuote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16