There’s been little or no reference to SA moving on, except for a few on here. If he wants away, I doubt he would have waited till the last minute to get his wish. I hope he’s still with us at midnight.
Printable View
There’s been little or no reference to SA moving on, except for a few on here. If he wants away, I doubt he would have waited till the last minute to get his wish. I hope he’s still with us at midnight.
Scott Allan as he back heeled to help Martin Boyle get clear and put 2nd goal in .In fact if you see it again it might have been Martin that passed it him to make a 1-2 moveQuote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
Quote:
Originally Posted by nlandsafchibee
It was.
FWIW, Allan had been calling for the ball a number of times in dangerous positions and was starting to get a bit frustrated when nobody would pass to him.
Hopefully his part in the goal highlighted to his team mates how useful he can be in these situations.
If this is the case, JR wants to have a word with his ‘team’ players, but I find it hard to believe that they would shun SA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
I don't think SA is alone with that frustration - most weeks you can see Magennis, Boyle, Nisbet & others getting frustrated when they step off their markers looking for the ball into feet but the ball goes back or sideways. I don't know if they don't see it or it's a tactical thing but often they're in acres of space with a chance to lay off or turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
To be honest, I can't remember any specific point on Saturday where I thought our players missed making an obvious pass to Allan.
Maybe he's used to everything going through him, but that's no longer going to happen.
I can’t say I have noticed that. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by RMQ1967
Seems almost certain we’ll only see him til Jan now… shame.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Mostly later in the game, when he was trying to position himself at the edge of the box.
For instance, shortly before the second goal, Allan had got in a really good position about ten yards from Boyle and called for the ball, only for Boyle to overhit a cross that went out for a throw in on the other side of the park.
Allan was practically having a wee stampy feet tantrum about it :greengrin
Hopefully this is a turning point for SA and he will see more game time.
Still think he has it in him to earn a new deal and I hope he does.
I completely agree. it has to borne in mind that he's not had much game time and seems to be a player that needs a bit of time to get going sometimes. I recall he had been just coming on to a game for Dundee after a long time on the sidelines when we took him on loan and he was superb for us. I thought he did ok if not spectacular on Saturday and still managed an assist.Quote:
Originally Posted by keep the faith
Mon Scotty.
We’ve got a load of pacy wide men now who need quality passes from midfield. Time to deliver.
He won’t get much of a chance and fully expect him to be away in January.
Tend to agree with this. Last night showed he is surplus to requirements.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
You also have to look at it from Scott Allan's perspective. Hopefully it motivates SA to prove he is a great player but to think the manager was happy to ship him out, must be pretty demoralising.
It's part and parcel of a footballers career.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
I'm more concerned about Drey Wright TBH.
I think Scott Allan already knew this, hence him wanting a move. Whether JR was totally honest with him or not the player could see he wasn’t going to get anywhere near enough game time.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
Still must be tough to take. SA will need to motivate himself for training/playing when he knows manager does not fancy him.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
Works both ways I suppose as there was a time SA was highly in demand whilst at Hibs
Not necessarily. I doubt if the subject of him moving on was only frantically broached at 11 pm last night. It will have been discussed a while back and he probably accepted the possibility. In fact, SA himself might even have instigated a possible move. He won’t be demoralised in any way, I’m sure he will get his head down and give 100% when he gets the chance. Hopefully that’s quite often.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
JR knows more about his physical shape than me. Possibly thinks SA not up to the rigours or possibly not able to perform in JR preferred style or formation.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
I still think SA has loads to offer. If we are left at any point with 1 fit striker, he could possibly play just off a main striker.
Just be great if he could get back to near his best as there's nobody better at what he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
Jury is out on him. Anoymous for first 30 Hibs of his appearance. Looked half hearted in his efforts. Don't know if down to the deal that fell through. Difficult situation for him now. Needs to to prove himself in front of JR to get game time to have a chance of getting another contract with another team.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
What? Half hearted? You’re having a laugh?!Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
He has a serious condition that might just impact on his performances and physical fitness. Give the guy a break. He might no longer be able to keep up with top flight football but there is zero reason to doubt the mans talent or desire to perform.
Honestly what a ridiculous post.
That's a bit harsh to put it mildly.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
It will be very difficult situation. SA will argue (rightly so like every player in squad) that he can’t prove himself in 10 mins, here, 30 mins there.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
What can he do in training that he’s not already been doing?
The only way he will prove himself is by playing 90 mins a week and sadly for him it looks like JR is not going to give him 90 mins every week.
Can’t see him being too happy getting 30 mins here and there.
Totally agree. Obviously we don’t know the in’s and out’s re his fitness, but a fully fit SA can still bring a bit of magic to the team. He’s got a football brain/vision that no one else in the team has in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
Funny how folk see things differently. I thought he looked like he was knocking his pan in, was desperate to get involved and got visibly frustrated when he was struggling to influence the game as he might want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
Eventually though, he worked his way into the game and capped the determination off with a fine assist.
It wasn't vintage Scott Allan by any means and he looked understandably rusty. He also struggled a bit to link up with some team-mates, sometimes they just didn't seem to be on the same wavelength - he'd want the ball, they either wouldn't or couldn't give it to him.
Any criticism of his attitude though is totally wide of the mark.
He just screamed "needs to be playing more" to me, as it was an understandable lack of match sharpness that he was showing.
Given the timings it wasn’t pre-meditated. It was an opportunity we tried to exploit that would have benefited everyone involved. I doubt SA will take it to heart, in fact I think it will spur him on to be more involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
In what respect ? My only concern with Wright is that he is still on the payroll, contributes less than nothing and a total waste of a wage, whoever saw this guy as an improvement to our squad needs to follow him out the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Simply that I think Scott is better equipped mentally to deal with the situation. Wright has been showing signs of regaining a bit of confidence & form and I hope this won't be a setback.Quote:
Originally Posted by delbert
Supposedly Ross isn’t that much of a fan of Scott Allan… thinks he is lazy.
Scott’s health issues are also still a factor in his game time and perhaps the perception he is lazy.
Maybe Scott Allen and drew Wright were quote happy to move as they know there game time will limited and the reason it didn't happen was on mcgrath not wanting to move
Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk
DreyQuote:
Originally Posted by May21/05/16
Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk
Your really not a fan are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
Of who ?Quote:
Originally Posted by keep the faith
Up to Allan and Wright to prove themselves now. Personally don't think Allan has anything to prove, but so be it.
Apparently all parties (Hibs, St Mirren, McGrath, Allan and Wright) had agreed to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by May21/05/16
He got a full half on Saturday. You are not going to drop Doyle, Magennis or Newell to give him 90 minutes. JR sees him everyday. He looks a touch overweight and not as athletic as he did at his peak. I don't what that is down to. But he does not look capable of the athletic skillful play he is once capable of. Sadly but that is the reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
Allan. You are fairly vocal on any thread about him. I do wonder why so many seem so content with it not working out. Surely he is worth backing and not writing off? He is a special talent and only 29.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
And yet a fully fit ,vibrant Scott Allan is a better footballer than all 3 in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
Hopefully his best days are not behind him and he can return to the level we all know he can reach. I’m loathed to think those days are in the past.
Are you at the wind up?Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
He had a year without match time at Celtic and a year lost with hibs. It's clear he is a fitness fanatic, so the overweight stuff is nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
Training on your own in the gym changes your body shape and he looked like he had too much muscle and too top heavy on his return. Matches and football training will sort that and make him more lithe again. I can already see a difference.
Each to their own, but I'm backing scott allan and wish others would too.
You couldn’t be any further from the truth. You only need to go back further in this thread to see what I think of Scott Allan (or countless other threads for that matter.) On his game Scott Allan is one of my favourite ever Hibs players. If it was up to me we’d build a team around him, or least would have before his heart condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by keep the faith
I’d like nothing more than see him get a run of games and get back to his best. Sadly I don’t believe that will ever happen with us and the player himself realises he needs to move if he’s to get any decent game time.
My mates cousin heard this from someone who works beside someone who is mates with a reliable source.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSheep
Lots of debate pro’s and cons etc but it’s not about the player for me it’s about the team.
A fit Scott Allan on his game starts every game for me however we all know his had issues etc with his health.
Unfortunately Scott Allan on gets cameos because of this and whilst he is frustrated he will know this.
We have stood by him through this but I want a team of players that can bust a gut every single game and Harry and chase everything.
This is what JR wants and it’s clear Scotty is able to do this.
I really wish he’d not had these issues because he’s a game changer! His drive etc with the ball is what makes him who he is. Sadly I think that’s lacking.
Harsh maybe but I’m thinking of the team
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Some amount of outright lies gets peddled on here.
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Personally I prefer somebody who can play football. We’ve had plenty of willing hard working runners over the years,Gogic is a good example,but too few like Allan who can win a game with a moment of magic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Yep. That's why I watch hibs and these mavericks over the years is what makes our club special. Being Aberdeen doesnt interest me. If we cant find room for Allan then there is something wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
So do I but l we work hard as a team and maybe Harry and chase is the wrong wording but I think you get my gist. JDH has an engine and gets about and so does Magennis. I’m not sure Scotty is the Scotty of old. His game is about drive etc and obviously the killer final ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
As it stands Scott doesn’t start for me if everyone is fit. I’m not slagging him or saying he’s a poor player when that is indeed not the case.
I really want him to get back to his old self but I’m not sure that’s going to happen. It’s clear that JR won’t start him so if he can get more game time elsewhere he needs to move on.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I see mentioning Gogic is the newest go to when people want to complain about Scott not starting games. It’s starting to rival ‘he’s no Ross’s type eh player’.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
What about the fact the we have Newell, JDH, Magennis and Boyle in midfield who are pretty much decent at most things and importantly better options than Allan at the moment?
We know he can win games with moments of magic but the team needs to be in these games to give him that platform. It’s looking like Allan playing is more important to some than anything else. You’d think we were bottom of the league at the moment.
I must admit that my heart sank initially last night when I saw that Scott could have been leaving us, though overall I was probably more disappointed that we didn’t succeed in our opportunistic attempt to get McGrath.
FWIW I thought Scott did fine on Saturday, had to battle away in midfield quite a bit but I thought he did that pretty well - and we got that one beautiful moment that led to a very good second goal.
Even if he can’t contribute anything like he used to, he can still make a telling contribution in his remaining time with us.
Sadly I think last night was our one chance to get McGrath though.
Yeh I agree with that as well. It's a shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Think you've missed the point. I mentioned Gogic because he is the type of player that Aldo mentioned in his quote.Nothing to do with the reason Allan doesn't play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrekko
Scott Allan has hardly played a game in a year. He needs a run of games in the team. Possibly 6 or 7 in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Otherwise how are we ever going to know if he can get back to his best. You can be fit but you also need to be match fit.
Too many people on here assuming he can’t get back to previous levels.
Being hard working and a game changer aren't mutually exclusive. Chic Charnley worked pretty hard and is far more a maverick than Scott Allan ever will be, a better player too. Boyle tries to take on players at almost every opportunity but he doesn't watch the game if he loses the ball. Newell and Magennis are both creative and capable of game winning passes or finishes but they work their socks off.Quote:
Originally Posted by keep the faith
I think you can carry one "maverick" in a team if you struggle for creativity and have lots of players willing to do a shift. That is Murphy before he got injured but we haven't lacked creativity from other areas. Allan may get his chance no Jamie seems to be injured but I can't see both of them in the side and definitely not against other top six sides. Murphy doesn't work hard enough off the ball for me but he works harder than Allan imo. He also plays his more risky balls in the oppositions third where they are unlikely to hurt us if they don't come off. That is why if Scottie does play I want him as advanced as possible because he gives the ball away making unnecessarily difficult passes far too often. He doesn't play percentages which is fine that far up the park but not so much in the middle of the field.
It was a good back heel on Saturday but having watched the highlights he got in Magennis' way in a similar position a wee while before that and the best bit of skill on show was Boyle's finish, top drawer. It will be fascinating to see if Allan starts against Hearts. If Newell or Murphy are fit I can't see it and it wouldn't surprise me if Gogic is next in line for that fixture if those two can't make it.
I said it in my previous post, who drops out for him?? JDH, Magennis, Newell. If those 3 are fit they start for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
I won’t assume I’ll say it and it maybe only my opinion but I don’t think Scott Allan can get back to where he was previously. Fantastic outstanding player with drive, quality and the ability to change a game by himself.
I don’t want to write off off but I don’t think he can get back to those levels.
I hope I’m wrong but I cannot see it.
More than happy to eat humble pie and be proved wrong!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yes he has?Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
He was on loan at Inverness last season and he had plenty game time in pre-season.
You’re not suggesting a few pre season friendlies and 5 games is the same tempo as playing for Hibs every week.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
You said he has hardly played a game in a year, that’s not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
He was fit and playing games at the end of last season and he’s then had a full pre-season. He’s also had a decent amount of competitive game time this season.
You may be correct but we’ll never know until he gets the chance for a run of games in the 1st team. As I said earlier, a fit SA is a better player than all 3 you mentioned. They are good players but SA a level above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
I’d play Allan behind/beside Nisbet, Scott on Left and Boyle on right. Can only try it whilst Newell currently injured.
Not sure he’s fit enough to start a run of games imho. If he was up to speed I’m sure he’d start. JR will see him every day in training. I watched when he came in and in the game he started against the Andorrans and he doesn’t start for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
I respect your opinion but for me he struggles to start. If he’s not up to speed by now I’m not sure when he will be.
So would you start him in the derby at Tiny. Do you think he’s ready?
Just to let you know I’m not slagging him off or slating him I just don’t think he’s the player he was. Which is really sad! On his game probably one if he must gifted and talented ballers at ER
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Or conversely too many people on here expecting him to get back to previous levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
My take is he won't get back to his best, not bt a long way. I will always enjoy looking back at how he has played for Hibs but through no fault of his own I think his career is very nearly over at a high standard. I would love to be wrong but just can't see it.
I know Scott has had/has his health issues but I always thought he put on too much muscle when he rejoined us and it changed his game a bit.
In your opinion. If I average Scott's contribution over his 3 spells I'm not sure he is as good as those three players. He has had a few good spells, usually when we are playing well and I would say he has been disappointing for most of the rest of his time or injured, unwell or on loan. I'd put the spell Magennis is on as being on par with Scottie's spells with far more work off the ball lifting it further.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
No doubting Allan has ability but I'm not sure I ever saw him as a consistent top six player and certainly not now.
Very disappointed to hear we are preparing to let Scott Allan go
May not be first name on team sheet but still how on earth we are thinking of getting rid I don’t know what Ross is thinking personally.
Allan’s time at hibs should be getting extended, Mathie and recruitment team better buck up their ideas cause if Nisbet gets injured between now and Christmas we are in the brown stuff
A lot of people think he shouldn’t be written off and that’s fair enough but this is the other side of the coin right here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicho87
Manager apparently hasn’t got a clue, recruitment is hopeless and we should be looking to extend Scott Allan’s contract.
Really?
I think he will be away in January.
Can see us making the same deal with St Mirren in January at the start of the window.
Thought we would see him earlier in the second half as Magennis looked tired. But Jack Ross obviously doesn’t feel he’s up to it. Think he’ll be away in January sadly.
We will have competition though ,but think if we are still doing well ,he will see us as an attractive option to considerQuote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Think an English club will take a punt on McGrath in January. Pre contract and cheap deal to be had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
I have posted loads about Scott Allan and how important he could be for us. I think I give up now. If Ross cant give him time in a match like that with a bench like that then he clearly REALLY doesnt fancy him.
Personally I think he will end up at united or something and I'm certain he will tear it up, if trusted and started every week.
Such a waste Hibs.
I heard this too from a guy on a forum who has a mate who has a cousin who works beside someone who is mates with a reliable source. Small world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman
I think Ross had a decision to make whether to stick or twist with around 25/20 to go. He could have made substitutions at a similar time to Neilson but I actually felt we came into the second half more after hearts had made their substitutions. That showed to me the best eleven were on the park already for the job at hand and while I was surprised Cadden lasted as long as he did the only safe option with 5 to go was probably Wright.
For what it’s worth Allan would have contributed more than Scott did in that role in the first half but I would have rather had the team that started the second half with Magennis in that role as our initial line up.
Scott Allan in the 4-0 game against Rangers is probably the best individual performance I’ve seen at Eater Road. He’s not that player anymore unfortunately.
The fact we just tried to get rid of him last week, then played Scott in his position today says a lot. Will be away in January. Thought he’d have been a better bet than Scott in that position, actually knows how to play it.
To be fair he didn’t tear it up at Dundee.Quote:
Originally Posted by keep the faith
I love Scott Allan and on his day he’s one of the best players I’ve seen at Hibs in the last 15 years but he’s not the same player we had first time round.
He has the ability to change a game with one pass but he’s a luxury player and Ross wants battlers
Is Scott Allan becoming more important to some fans than the team? Or is it just something to get stuck into Jack Ross about?Quote:
Originally Posted by keep the faith
This nonsense about him “not fancying him” makes absolutely no sense based on so many things but I get the feeling it’s trying to create the “Jack Ross doesn’t like flair players” narrative to those who will simply never take to him.
The midfielders who have played the bulk of the games this season have thoroughly deserved their spots. Scott Allan started our 1st proper game of the season and was unlucky to have to go off - it could have been different but that’s football.
The Livi game showed that there are only certain games Allan can play in now. He basically didn’t touch the ball for 40 minutes against Livi and the game would’ve totally passed him by today. He could’ve come on for the last 20 minutes or so but Magennis was doing well second halfQuote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
C’mon Ross clearly no longer rates Allan, it’s not even open for debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrekko
Allan will know now his time his up
For some reason he’s not been given a fair crack to get back in after his health issues. Bringing wright on today and then Allan looked liked he misssed getting on for 1 minute I would find insulting if I was getting sold only 13 days ago
I’m sure he’s been given as much as a fair crack as the rest of the midfielders have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicho87
We don’t see training every day, the coaching staff too. I’m sure they have good reason for not giving him as much game time as a lot of fans want.
I don’t know why people don’t trust Ross on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
I’ve criticised Ross in spells but his judgement of a player is for the most part excellent. He’s not got many wrong so far.
Ross sees him in training every day, has given him game time this season and has clearly decided there’s better options in the squad.
It’s a shame for Allan and I have huge amount of respect for him however I think it’s clear his time is nearly up at Hibs. I am pretty sure though he won’t leave Hibs and go to another club bigger or better than us.
Hopefully he can find somewhere he will get regular game time though.
Nothing to do with trusting Ross I was just responding to a post that was disputing the fact that he no longer rates him. He barely plays him and tried to get rid of him in the last window. I don’t think you can get a clearer indication of Ross’ view of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
He currently believes we have 3/4 midfielders who are better options and I’m flabbergasted anyone would disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
Initially he played SA every week and was happy to name him in his starting 11 in the first game of the season.
Why is this so important to people? There is zero evidence at the moment that he’ll provide more than the ones in possession. It’s mad.
It could all change like it did for Magennis but for me when he’s had a chance he’s not done enough.
Just find it weird we’re sitting 2nd and people see this as such a huge issue and are really upset about it. I hope we see more of him but like every player it’s in his hands - these suggestions that JR has an agenda against him are just rubbish.
Spot on. Don't agree with it myself but looks like Allan is done at Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
Allan is 100% a better option behind the forwards than Scott has shown to be so far. Ross making a mistake here.
Where did I say he has an agenda against him ? In fact where has anyone said that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrekko
Am I disappointed one of the best midfielders I’ve seen in a Hibs jersey is no longer part of the managers plans ? Absolutely.
You keep repeating he started in the first game of the season. Aye against a bunch of diddies and he was hooked once Newell was sent off. If Ross rated him why didn’t he start in the next game ? It’s not as if he was on long enough in the that game to form much of an opinion on his performance.
Ross clearly no longer rates him and isn’t even giving him the game time to turn things round. Trying to put him on a season long loan in the final year of his contract is as clear an indication as you will get on Ross’ thoughts on Scott Allan’s future at Hibs.
I don’t know if Ross is making the right decision, but that’s what he gets paid for.
I completely agree, Scott has done nothing so far to merit being played ahead of Allan. The fact that he’s a new signing is the only reason he’s getting game time as it’s certainly not down to form. That’s fair enough as we want to get him up to speed, but Allan doesn’t seem to be getting that same chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
I thought Allan looked decent pre season but hasn't shown since apart from the odd few mins here and there. We dont see Allan in training but there will be a reason he's not starting, maybe it's best if he does move on for his own sake to get playing again. It'll be a sore one when that day comes but Hibs are the most important thing. Look at Gray last season, he's now part of our coaching staff but we all wondered why he wasn't getting a chance to play, Ross was proven correct.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicho87
If you take nostalgia away, there's very little evidence to back that statement up. If he's still as good as people say then he'd be getting game time but he's understandably barely played for two years and that is going to affect any players ability.
I absolutely loved his time at Hibs, he's given us some fantastic memories and outstanding performances that will be spoken about in twenty or thirty years time but IMO his time at the club is up. He'll leave a legend with a massive amount of goodwill towards him though.
Not sure how you come to the conclusion that Ross was proved to be correct because DG retired and accepted a role as part of the coaching staff ?Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
There were many on here asking why Gray wasn't being picked last season, I was one of them, the fact he only played something like 4 games and retired to go into coaching, shows we know little of what goes on and there's reasons certain players are not picked. I'm pretty sure Gray wasn't thinking of retirement at the end of last season, we need to trust Ross more.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
Agree with all of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
He was fit last season but Ross refused to play him. He wanted to stay at Hibs, but wasn’t going to get any game time so that left taking up the option as a coach. It doesn’t equate to Ross being right, just that he got to influence the decision DG ultimately made.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
Agreed. I must admit at no point today was I thinking Allan should be on or coming on. Shame as he’s been one of my favourite players to watch but I don’t think he’ll return to what we’d like him to.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Scotty was one of the better players I've seen at Hibs over the years. I suspect we will see him leave in January and I also suspect that Jack Ross will be proved correct. He will probably end up at somewhere like St Mirren and be alright for them. His days of playing like he did on the 4-0 hun pumping I think are behind him
Scott looked lost in that position today. Allan would have offered more, just even in terms of knowing where to be. We were a man down first half but it wasn’t all down to Scott IMO, it was a mistake asking him to play that position.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
John McGinn is a legend, and nothing will ever change that, but in my opinion he's second to Allan in his prime. People forget that the team we had in 2014-15 was considerably less talented and he turned it into something special. If it wasn't for his well-documented health issues, and less-than-stellar career choices, he'd be a superstar.
I still think he has something to offer but Ross clearly doesn't.
You weren’t happy with Macey but made outstanding saves todayQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
It’s hard to improve if not getting a run of games
But I do think we have a better balance now
But still think bringing him on as a sub he has something to offer
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
He didn’t start the next game because Magennis played very well as far as I recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
I wasn’t meaning you when I talked about people implying an agenda - but I’ve seen plenty of people more or less doing so e.g saying he’s been treated unfairly when he simply hasn’t.
I’m personally desperate to see the things others think they can in Scott at the moment but just can’t and definitely feel like we can trust the judgement of a good coaching team who see all the players every day.
He’s a joy to watch when in prime form - I’d love to see it again but at the moment I just can’t get away from the fact that Newell, JDH and Magennis offer a lot more and I’m not going to get upset by that.