Ron Gordon

Instead of the escalators slide, we could always do what Ajax did

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an actual waterslide, for when they score, for fans.

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

He should be thankful the puns didn't make an appearance.

I get the rage when that nonsense starts.

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Now you’ve gone and done it 🙈🙈🙈

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Originally Posted by Smartie

The last page and a half are vintage Hibs.net.

Hibs are going to potter about roughly mid-table in the top league of Scotland for about 90% of our existence. We'll win a trophy every decade or so, get relegated every couple of decades. We'll occasionally qualify for Europe, allowing us to go on fun trips abroad, we'll occasionally get dumped out of domestic cups by unimaginably poor opposition. Managers will come and go, chairmen will come and go, owners will come and go.

The idea that Ron Gordon is going to revolutionise anything is cringeworthy, so the anticipation of "big news" is asking for the piss to be ripped and I'm delighted to see so many people step up to the plate.

Hibs for many people will always be a vehicle for discussion, for fun, for laughing and joking about with their mates and that's what's happening here. Ok, sometimes it gets serious but it can't be serious all the time.

Other opinions are, of course, available.

You need a shot on that big slide imo.

Or maybe a Snickers.

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That's my entire lifetime experience of following and loving Hibs just been summed up.

How did you know?[emoji16]

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Originally Posted by allant1981

Well he sold one company for $75m, dunno how much of that was profit but he obviously knows what he is doing seeing as he started it with $200, he was involved with various other companies at a very high level so will have a lot of experience and a fair bit of cash, how much he will spend on the club is the big question though

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The big question indeed, but it seems very few of us are qualified to comment on what level of business man Ron actually is, and how much spare change he has kicking about.

Using the example of Hearts, it seems a lot of people are prepared to put a lot of trust in people who are presented as rich, successful businessmen and women.

Sometimes they are just small time operators who did well. It doesn't matter where they are from or otherwise.

As we are all into speculating, I tend to go with the idea that Ron wants to keep the place ticking over as before, whilst keeping himself in a position to capatilise on any opportunities that arise for him.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

It's closer to 80%. Hotel occupancy means very little when it comes to turning a profit , if a property doesn't have a sufficiently high Revpar (revenue per available room) it won't be making much money.

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A man talking my language 👌. Saw your earlier quotes too, agree with all you say regarding the mere thought of us looking at developing a hotel product.

Ron will be prioritizing his priorities accordingly and this type of project will be way down the list.

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Plus you can't interfere with yourself through the cotton fabric like so many of today's jogger wearing youngsters seem to enjoy doing...

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Yeah, wtf is that all about?

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Originally Posted by Jack Hackett

Never mind an escalator, get one of these in

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Love it!!!

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

I think the announcements when they come are going to be somewhat underwhelming, certainly based on what some seem to be expecting.

A further development at East Mains and a scheme set up which will see fans asked to contribute to funding it. A formal announcement of the new commercial positions we have all seen advertised and an overview of what these roles entail and what benefits they may bring. Announcement of some kind of survey and study into what fans want to see in the way of improvements at ER and how feasible they are.

At the more exciting end of the scale maybe announcement of exploring a link up with a North American team. There will almost certainly be no detailed announcement of an increase in revenue streams, an increase in football budget or a cash injection. That’s not to say none of those things will happen but it is highly unlikely we will put it out there in black and white for everyone to see. Certainly not before it has been communicated at the AGM.

Business reviews tend to be thorough but rarely see overly exciting changes at the end of them. Particularly the case when a business is performing reasonably well, Hibs aren’t performing fantastically in a commercial sense but until the sponsor debacle this year it’s not been disastrous either.

I’m certainly interested in what Ron Gordon has to say and what his vision is for Hibs. I’m just not expecting to be blown away by what is eventually revealed.

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ISTR that Ron is buddies with the guy that owns Real Salt Lake.

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Originally Posted by GloryGlory

ISTR that Ron is buddies with the guy that owns Real Salt Lake.

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Just to bring a bit of context, they are a similar sized club to us.

"As Real Salt Lake is a small-market team, one of the team's biggest challenges is bringing in enough revenue to remain competitive.[53] Opening Rio Tinto Stadium in October 2008 provided a significant revenue boost to the team. Real Salt Lake went from 4,000 season-ticket holders before October 2008, to 8,750 in 2012, 10,000 in 2013,[53] and 15,000+ in 2016.[54]"

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

The last page and a half of posts are cringeworthy and unsurprisingly childish, the few are spoiling this site for the many.

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Somebody got out of bed on the wrong side this morning.

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Originally Posted by Cataplana

Barcelo Malaga? I would have booked, but there was no view of the Castle available - even with chips on the bar menu, it fell short of what I was looking for.

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:agree:

Did an over-nighter a couple of years back, and I can confirm the lack of (Edinburgh) castle view... which was actually a relief. I also declined an invitation to use the slide, as I wasn't looking for a hertz experience... all the way from the top to the bottom in a year :greengrin

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Originally Posted by Jack Hackett

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Did an over-nighter a couple of years back, and I can confirm the lack of (Edinburgh) castle view... which was actually a relief. I also declined an invitation to use the slide, as I wasn't looking for a hertz experience... all the way from the top to the bottom in a year :greengrin

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That is one slow slide, and makes me gladder I didn't book. In fact it is yet more proof that hotels are a thing of the past.

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Originally Posted by Cataplana

That is one slow slide, and makes me gladder I didn't book. In fact it is yet more proof that hotels are a thing of the past.

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... and hertz

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Originally Posted by Smartie

The last page and a half are vintage Hibs.net.

Hibs are going to potter about roughly mid-table in the top league of Scotland for about 90% of our existence. We'll win a trophy every decade or so, get relegated every couple of decades. We'll occasionally qualify for Europe, allowing us to go on fun trips abroad, we'll occasionally get dumped out of domestic cups by unimaginably poor opposition. Managers will come and go, chairmen will come and go, owners will come and go.

The idea that Ron Gordon is going to revolutionise anything is cringeworthy, so the anticipation of "big news" is asking for the piss to be ripped and I'm delighted to see so many people step up to the plate.

Hibs for many people will always be a vehicle for discussion, for fun, for laughing and joking about with their mates and that's what's happening here. Ok, sometimes it gets serious but it can't be serious all the time.

Other opinions are, of course, available.

You need a shot on that big slide imo.

Or maybe a Snickers.

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So Hibs get taken over by a Peruvian millionaire, we don’t get told what his plans are or into any depth as to why he bought the club. We don’t hear from him other than a 5 minute interview on the hibs tv channel but we are told we will hear more after he’s assessed the club and put into place his business plan, which is due to be around about now.

By asking the question what those plans are and if we’ll hear them soon, seeing as he was in Edinburgh for Christmas, that’s what’s worthy of piss taking on hibs.net now?

I know I’ll be coming across precious here but I don’t really care, PS is right, this thread is just full of people wanting to be smart *****, this thread was non offensive, not criticising anyone, just a genuine interest as to what the owners plans would be, why that’s a problem I’ve no idea.

If I’ve been suckered in by hoping our new owner might actually have some ambitious plans then so be it.

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Originally Posted by Keith_M

Somebody got out of bed on the wrong side this morning.

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Not at all, I was simply hoping that I’d come into a Hibs site and read/debate about Ron Gordon’s plans for Hibs.

I realise that this site is now more used for “friends banter” rather than what it was once good for, that’s absolutely fine so feel free to crack on with comments about chutes, escalators, castles and in house jokes that no else else finds funny.

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

Not at all, I was simply hoping that I’d come into a Hibs site and read/debate about Ron Gordon’s plans for Hibs.

I realise that this site is now more used for “friends banter” rather than what it was once good for, that’s absolutely fine so feel free to crack on with comments about chutes, escalators, castles and in house jokes that no else else finds funny.

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What did you realistically think you were going to read on here about the plans that he has for the club seeing as no one outside the club actually knows what's happening

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Originally Posted by bingo70

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By asking the question what those plans are and if we’ll hear them soon, seeing as he was in Edinburgh for Christmas, that’s what’s worthy of piss taking on hibs.net now?

I know I’ll be coming across precious here but I don’t really care, PS is right, this thread is just full of people wanting to be smart *****, this thread was non offensive, not criticising anyone, just a genuine interest as to what the owners plans would be, why that’s a problem I’ve no idea.

If I’ve been suckered in by hoping our new owner might actually have some ambitious plans then so be it.

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Can I just ask, what is it you expect from people as a reply?

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We have just as much knowledge of what his plans are as you do, so we can't provide any useful answers.

The alternatives are:

1. Go off on a total rant about how the club have left us in the dark, perhaps with meaningless threats about handing our season tickets back.
2. Post a reply saying, "don't know"
3. Reply with various theories, none based on any inside knowledge whatsoever, so not of any use to anybody.
4. Not take the thread too seriously and engage in speculation, interspersed with (admittedly quite often poor) attempts at humour
5. Ignore the thread completely.

Which of the above options would suit you the most?

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Originally Posted by bingo70

So Hibs get taken over by a Peruvian millionaire, we don’t get told what his plans are or into any depth as to why he bought the club. We don’t hear from him other than a 5 minute interview on the hibs tv channel but we are told we will hear more after he’s assessed the club and put into place his business plan, which is due to be around about now.

By asking the question what those plans are and if we’ll hear them soon, seeing as he was in Edinburgh for Christmas, that’s what’s worthy of piss taking on hibs.net now?

I know I’ll be coming across precious here but I don’t really care, PS is right, this thread is just full of people wanting to be smart *****, this thread was non offensive, not criticising anyone, just a genuine interest as to what the owners plans would be, why that’s a problem I’ve no idea.

If I’ve been suckered in by hoping our new owner might actually have some ambitious plans then so be it.

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There was nothing wrong with your post, which contained 2 questions. "Did anyone know if RG was still in Edinburgh?" and "Were you right that we were due to hear do?".

The answers were "No" and "Yes".

When people start speculating about what the announcement might contain, it becomes pointless and it's inevitable that when folk start fantasising about hotels and student accommodation, Hibs supporters clubs etc, it's going to descend into a piss take.

In fact, Stoneyburn's first post was the most accurate.

He said that it was probably best not to speculate.

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Originally Posted by Keith_M

Can I just ask, what is it you expect from people as a reply?

:dunno:


We have just as much knowledge of what his plans are as you do, so we can't provide any useful answers.

The alternatives are:

1) Go off on a total rant about how the club have left us in the dark, perhaps with meaningless threats about handing our season tickets back.
2) Post a reply saying, "don't know"
3) Reply with various theories, none based on any inside knowledge whatsoever, so not of any use to anybody.
4) Not take the thread too seriously and engage in speculation, interspersed with (admittedly quite often poor) attempts at humour
5) Ignore the thread completely.


Which of the above options would suit you the most?

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First of all, I wondered if anybody knew if he was still in Edinburgh, as that would give an indication if we’d be hearing from him soon.

Other than that I was wondering if anybody had any theories, ideas or had heard rumours as to what his plans might be, seeing as it’s not something that we’ve really heard from him, that seems a reasonable enough talking point to me on a Hibs message board?

As it turns out, I remembered the interview incorrectly, I thought he has said there was big plans. Someone corrected me on that, that’s fine, I just don’t think there’s a need for the smart ***** point scoring or being dicks about it.

FWIW I had decided not to come back on the thread as no good was coming from it any more, after reading it though, I appreciated Paul Smiths points and agreed with him so wanted to chuck my tuppence worth in.

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

In fact, Stoneyburn's first post was the most accurate.

He said that it was probably best not to speculate.

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So the OP could have closed the thread at that point and saved himself a lot of stress.

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

In fact, Stoneyburn's first post was the most accurate.

He said that it was probably best not to speculate.

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Why?

Speculating Is all part of the fun of being a supporter.

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Originally Posted by Keith_M

Can I just ask, what is it you expect from people as a reply?

:dunno:


We have just as much knowledge of what his plans are as you do, so we can't provide any useful answers.

The alternatives are:

1. Go off on a total rant about how the club have left us in the dark, perhaps with meaningless threats about handing our season tickets back.
2. Post a reply saying, "don't know"
3. Reply with various theories, none based on any inside knowledge whatsoever, so not of any use to anybody.
4. Not take the thread too seriously and engage in speculation, interspersed with (admittedly quite often poor) attempts at humour
5. Ignore the thread completely.

Which of the above options would suit you the most?

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Those alternatives could apply to a good number of threads these days, including the various transfer threads :greengrin

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Originally Posted by bingo70

Why?

Speculating Is all part of the fun of being a supporter.

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In fairness, there was a rather long discussion on the subject of building a Hotel.

There was a reminder that Gordon had mentioned development on the Training Centre, and his Pony Up phrase

Somebody mentioned other ways to fill in the corners.

Then people ran out of genuine ideas and it went all DotNet.

I honestly don't see what the problem is.

Its always been the Hibs.net way. We are not party to inside information, so speculation happens and then the banter merchants pile in. ‘‘Twas always the way. It would be pretty quiet on here if we only discussed known facts and in the know low down.


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Originally Posted by bingo70

Why?

Speculating Is all part of the fun of being a supporter.

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Exactly mate.

I think this thread remained relatively serious for a long while, as it ran out of steam it got a bit silly.

I've no real issue with that. The truth is no one on here knows anything about the plans of Ron Gordon, our transfer dealings or how much a pie is going to cost next season. It's all speculation, rumour and guesswork. If you are looking to Hibs.net for serious information on what is happening at Hibs then you are probably looking in the wrong place. With that speculation there is always going to be an element of piss take and daftness.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

I'm absolutely serious. It's based on a bit of supposition, his own 'pony up' comment and a few rumours and whispers that seem to be doing the rounds.

I agree it won't be particularly favourable received if it proves to be true.

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Very old mate of mine had to use those supposition things for a wee while because he couldn't pass his own pony and trap. Rumour was that he whispered to his doctor who was doing his rounds they were a pain in the a@@e. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by bingo70

So Hibs get taken over by a Peruvian millionaire, we don’t get told what his plans are or into any depth as to why he bought the club. We don’t hear from him other than a 5 minute interview on the hibs tv channel but we are told we will hear more after he’s assessed the club and put into place his business plan, which is due to be around about now.

By asking the question what those plans are and if we’ll hear them soon, seeing as he was in Edinburgh for Christmas, that’s what’s worthy of piss taking on hibs.net now?

I know I’ll be coming across precious here but I don’t really care, PS is right, this thread is just full of people wanting to be smart *****, this thread was non offensive, not criticising anyone, just a genuine interest as to what the owners plans would be, why that’s a problem I’ve no idea.

If I’ve been suckered in by hoping our new owner might actually have some ambitious plans then so be it.

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I don't really know what you were expecting.

There are plenty of reasonable suggestions on here, some fanciful ones that folk think are serious and a wee bit of nonsense.

It's a decent thread.

Every now and again subjects are raised that aren't to my liking and there are jokes I just don't get, that's the way it's going to be when you have a site read by thousands and contributed to by hundreds. Never though do I feel the need to lecture anyone or claim that because there are half a dozen posts about nonsense that the whole site has somehow gone downhill.

There seems to be something about transfer windows and no football that when we start to fill our time with a bit of harmless daft stuff that we have the incredibly serious brigade who get upset that the site isn't 100% full of ITK facts and knowledge.

Ron Gordon has been secretive as appears to be his way. I don't suspect he'll have any real big plans as I don't know what plans he could possibly come up with. The food might get a bit better. We might get a sponsorship deal. Our playing budget will largely be commensurate with our standing in the Scottish game, as it should be. I don't think there will be hotels or the discovery of half-time entertainment that is any different or better than we have currently or goes on elsewhere. I'm happy to hear folk come up with serious suggestions, I'm happy for folk to come up with crazy suggestions and I'm especially happy for folk to take the piss. When I post something that I know is a bit contentious (such as the post you have replied to) then I expect a bit of grief back.

Apologies if you thought my post was more mocking than it actually was intended to be, which was not the intention at all. I just quite like the talk of chutes, escalators, ski jumps and chaps etc - it makes me chuckle, but I appreciate that is not the case for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

I think this thread remained relatively serious for a long while, as it ran out of steam it got a bit silly.

I've no real issue with that. The truth is no one on here knows anything about the plans of Ron Gordon, our transfer dealings or how much a pie is going to cost next season. It's all speculation, rumour and guesswork. If you are looking to Hibs.net for serious information on what is happening at Hibs then you are probably looking in the wrong place. With that speculation there is always going to be an element of piss take and daftness.

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Is it not just a question of timing?
Would announcements around Christmas not just upstage the important thing - making top 6?
Keep the eye on the prize and announce as we commence the latter part of the season or whenever he’s choosing fit. How could someone new to the industry in the just in the club 5 minutes have any credibility unless sufficient time was spent examining the art of the possible versus the aspiration and then announcing something of substance?

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Originally Posted by allant1981

What did you realistically think you were going to read on here about the plans that he has for the club seeing as no one outside the club actually knows what's happening

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Realistically some decent discussions about how he might grow the club, how Archie Paton might use his contacts, how we might be able to see sponsorship increasing, strategic partnerships, how investment might help us get into Europa League 3 and what benefits that brings...that's just a small example but nope the vast majority are left to read absolute nonsense "banter" between a small group of online friends.

There is also the debate to be had about Ron Gordon, one poster actually thinks that nothing will change, so why did he actually invest? Is that not worthy of a discussion as to his motives, what were his reasons for buying Hibernian...was it just cause he liked the name, to make money, to make himself a well known name outside of his own businesses.

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

Realistically some decent discussions about how he might grow the club, how Archie Paton might use his contacts, how we might be able to see sponsorship increasing, strategic partnerships, how investment might help us get into Europa League 3 and what benefits that brings...that's just a small example but nope the vast majority are left to read absolute nonsense "banter" between a small group of online friends.

There is also the debate to be had about Ron Gordon, one poster actually thinks that nothing will change, so why did he actually invest? Is that not worthy of a discussion as to his motives, what were his reasons for buying Hibernian...was it just cause he liked the name, to make money, to make himself a well known name outside of his own businesses.

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I don't disagree with you and think this is a pretty good post. You make good points.

But must serious debate and nonsense be mutually exclusive?

Is it so hard to spend less than 5 seconds scan reading a post, realising that it is nonsense of no interest and leaving it at that before moving to the next one where you might find more of what you are looking for?

When a subject is as speculative as this it is always going to veer a bit along the way.

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

Realistically some decent discussions about how he might grow the club, how Archie Paton might use his contacts, how we might be able to see sponsorship increasing, strategic partnerships, how investment might help us get into Europa League 3 and what benefits that brings...that's just a small example but nope the vast majority are left to read absolute nonsense "banter" between a small group of online friends.

There is also the debate to be had about Ron Gordon, one poster actually thinks that nothing will change, so why did he actually invest? Is that not worthy of a discussion as to his motives, what were his reasons for buying Hibernian...was it just cause he liked the name, to make money, to make himself a well known name outside of his own businesses.

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How realistic can those discussions be though? I have to concede though, you have come up with some good topics.

I am not sure who Archie Paton is, so would be keen to learn how he might use his contacts, as well.
I am definitely keen to hear how we could get into the Europa League, as I have seen this as the way Hibs have had to go for the last 25 years.
I do think debate on Ron Gordon would be a bit silly without any real statement from him, or somebody who actually has any idea about accounting or business to comment on his status. "He must be good because...." is about as much use to me as saying he can steer a submarine around the Baltic.

But, nobody actually mentioned those. Your thoughts on the first two would be welcome though. :aok:

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Originally Posted by Smartie

I don't disagree with you and think this is a pretty good post. You make good points.

But must serious debate and nonsense be mutually exclusive?

Is it so hard to spend less than 5 seconds scan reading a post, realising that it is nonsense of no interest and leaving it at that before moving to the next one where you might find more of what you are looking for?

When a subject is as speculative as this it is always going to veer a bit along the way.

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I agree.

There's room for serious discussion as much as the nonsense for whoever wants it.

I think a good topic would be to discuss what people would do if they were in charge. What would they change/ prioritise etc.

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

Realistically some decent discussions about how he might grow the club, how Archie Paton might use his contacts, how we might be able to see sponsorship increasing, strategic partnerships, how investment might help us get into Europa League 3 and what benefits that brings...that's just a small example but nope the vast majority are left to read absolute nonsense "banter" between a small group of online friends.

There is also the debate to be had about Ron Gordon, one poster actually thinks that nothing will change, so why did he actually invest? Is that not worthy of a discussion as to his motives, what were his reasons for buying Hibernian...was it just cause he liked the name, to make money, to make himself a well known name outside of his own businesses.

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Now that is a very good post. One which you could have posted a while back instead of having a pop at the site.

I've just read through the thread and don't see much wrong apart from the discussion tailing off as no one really knows anything.

I honestly don't see what got you so upset.

Hopefully you'll get some good responses to that post.

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Originally Posted by PaulSmith

Realistically some decent discussions about how he might grow the club, how Archie Paton might use his contacts, how we might be able to see sponsorship increasing, strategic partnerships, how investment might help us get into Europa League 3 and what benefits that brings...that's just a small example but nope the vast majority are left to read absolute nonsense "banter" between a small group of online friends.

There is also the debate to be had about Ron Gordon, one poster actually thinks that nothing will change, so why did he actually invest? Is that not worthy of a discussion as to his motives, what were his reasons for buying Hibernian...was it just cause he liked the name, to make money, to make himself a well known name outside of his own businesses.

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Feel free to contribute everything you know about those subjects.

Keep in mind that every single bit of it would be pure speculation and no more useful than the attempts at humour made by some.

Unless, of course, you yourself have any genuine inside info.

I think they will announce naming rights for HTC and Easter Rd. I fully expect that Archie Paton is driving all the work on the new strategy.

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Originally Posted by Keith_M

Feel free to contribute everything you know about those subjects.

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...and any humour you feel like you want to share:agree:

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Originally Posted by underscore

I think they will announce naming rights for HTC and Easter Rd. I fully expect that Archie Paton is driving all the work on the new strategy.

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Decent source of income, if so.

I personally wouldn't mind them changing the name of ER if it brought decent money in, as it would still be ER to me.

I hope they can get some shirt sponsorship sorted as well.

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Originally Posted by underscore

I think they will announce naming rights for HTC and Easter Rd. I fully expect that Archie Paton is driving all the work on the new strategy.

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HTC would make complete sense, although I'm sure many of us wouldn't be pleased if the stadium changed its name.

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Originally Posted by Vault Boy

HTC would make complete sense, although I'm sure many of us wouldn't be pleased if the stadium changed its name.

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I think people would soon forget about the name change if it meant we could bring in a better quality of player and saw success on the park because of it.

Doesn’t bother me in the slightest what it’s called.

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Originally Posted by Cataplana

How realistic can those discussions be though? I have to concede though, you have come up with some good topics.

I am not sure who Archie Paton is, so would be keen to learn how he might use his contacts, as well.
I am definitely keen to hear how we could get into the Europa League, as I have seen this as the way Hibs have had to go for the last 25 years.
I do think debate on Ron Gordon would be a bit silly without any real statement from him, or somebody who actually has any idea about accounting or business to comment on his status. "He must be good because...." is about as much use to me as saying he can steer a submarine around the Baltic.

But, nobody actually mentioned those. Your thoughts on the first two would be welcome though. :aok:

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It's fair to say that anyone willing to put the best part of £7million into buying a business 5000 miles away is unusual.Especially in an industry not renowned for anything other than providing grief and pain for owners.It seems he has been a clever business man in spotting a market for televised soccer to Spanish speakers thereby providing a marketing/advertising medium for businesses also wanting into that area.So he has his head screwed on and was able to progress and make a success of community banking.Like everyone else I haven't a scooby as what he wants to do but my guess is that it involves the European League development.

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Originally Posted by Vault Boy

HTC would make complete sense, although I'm sure many of us wouldn't be pleased if the stadium changed its name.

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Naming the ground would not realy bother. To most it will always be Easter Road.

Is archie paton based in edinburgh or does he come over the same time as the owner? (Is he even american?)

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Originally Posted by ancient hibee

It's fair to say that anyone willing to put the best part of £7million into buying a business 5000 miles away is unusual.Especially in an industry not renowned for anything other than providing grief and pain for owners.It seems he has been a clever business man in spotting a market for televised soccer to Spanish speakers thereby providing a marketing/advertising medium for businesses also wanting into that area.So he has his head screwed on and was able to progress and make a success of community banking.Like everyone else I haven't a scooby as what he wants to do but my guess is that it involves the European League development.

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Thank you, I was aware he had spoken about TV rights when he arrived, but I wasn't really sure what that meant. I can see a scenario when we are playing Spanish or Portuguese teams, and that may be of interested to South Americans, and latinos in the USA.

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Originally Posted by ancient hibee

It's fair to say that anyone willing to put the best part of £7million into buying a business 5000 miles away is unusual.Especially in an industry not renowned for anything other than providing grief and pain for owners.It seems he has been a clever business man in spotting a market for televised soccer to Spanish speakers thereby providing a marketing/advertising medium for businesses also wanting into that area.So he has his head screwed on and was able to progress and make a success of community banking.Like everyone else I haven't a scooby as what he wants to do but my guess is that it involves the European League development.

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I've always thought the European League development in a couple of seasons was a big factor in his purchase.

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Is archie paton based in edinburgh or does he come over the same time as the owner? (Is he even american?)

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He lives in St Andrews

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Decent source of income, if so.

I personally wouldn't mind them changing the name of ER if it brought decent money in, as it would still be ER to me.

I hope they can get some shirt sponsorship sorted as well.

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This. They can call ER what they like if it generates a few quid extra for the team, but you and me and thousands of others will still call it ER.

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I think people would soon forget about the name change if it meant we could bring in a better quality of player and saw success on the park because of it.

Doesn’t bother me in the slightest what it’s called.

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Naming the ground would not realy bother. To most it will always be Easter Road.

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You're right that we would soon forget about it if it led to direct success on the park, no doubt. I just don't want Hibs to sell the naming rights for an amount that doesn't make a real impact.

Personally wouldn't want to hear our home referred to as the Global Energy Stadium or Tony Macaroni Arena for the sake of a couple hundred K.

That's despite Spagettihad being a work of genius.

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You're right that we would soon forget about it if it led to direct success on the park, no doubt. I just don't want Hibs to sell the naming rights for an amount that doesn't make a real impact.

Personally wouldn't want to hear our home referred to as the Global Energy Stadium or Tony Macaroni Arena for the sake of a couple hundred K.

That's despite Spagettihad being a work of genius.

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Thank you, I was aware he had spoken about TV rights when he arrived, but I wasn't really sure what that meant. I can see a scenario when we are playing Spanish or Portuguese teams, and that may be of interested to South Americans, and latinos in the USA.

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I think it's 50% of Californian residents have Spanish as their first language-a huge market.So the channel he set up was very popular.

As far as a new stadium name I don't know anyone that calls Murrayfield by its new name of BT Murrayfield but it was worth about £40million to the SRU.

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I think it's 50% of Californian residents have Spanish as their first language-a huge market.So the channel he set up was very popular.

As far as a new stadium name I don't know anyone that calls Murrayfield by its new name of BT Murrayfield but it was worth about £40million to the SRU.

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Either BBC has relaxed its advertising rules and/or broadcasting rights come with the mandate of referencing stadia by Sponsors names. Commentators will refer to stadia in this way.

The value of naming rights reflect the fact a lot of fans refuse to use the commercial name.


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Could play a we game with various stadium names
Chocolate company’s have 2 peak periods, Xmas and Easter. So for starters
Cadbury’s Easter Rd Stadium😄

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Could play a we game with various stadium names
Chocolate company’s have 2 peak periods, Xmas and Easter. So for starters
Cadbury’s Easter Rd Stadium😄

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Or pharmaceuticals.

The Bayer Eastregen Replacement Ground. (BERG)

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That's despite Spagettihad being a work of genius.

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Whoever came up with that name deserves an award.

As for naming, my preferred option used to be Hibernian Insurance, but they sadly changed their name (to Aviva Ireland, I think).

I think Hibs should consider putting a sponsor's name of the roof of the East Stand, given it's visibility from passing planes.

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Whoever came up with that name deserves an award.

As for naming, my preferred option used to be Hibernian Insurance, but they sadly changed their name (to Aviva Ireland, I think).

I think Hibs should consider putting a sponsor's name of the roof of the East Stand, given it's visibility from passing planes.

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That’s a great shout re East stand roof, I’d send that to Hibs if I was you

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I think people would soon forget about the name change if it meant we could bring in a better quality of player and saw success on the park because of it.

Doesn’t bother me in the slightest what it’s called.

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People went crazy when the SRU sold the naming rights to Murrayfield to BT but it made the SRU £20 million and paid off all their debts.

Now you thinking nothing of saying the BT Murray field

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Could play a we game with various stadium names
Chocolate company’s have 2 peak periods, Xmas and Easter. So for starters
Cadbury’s Easter Rd Stadium😄

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Only if we get Crunchie as the half time guest 👍

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Only if we get Crunchie as the half time guest 👍

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Much better than Biscuits

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Why?

Speculating Is all part of the fun of being a supporter.

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I wonder how big this hotel will actually be?

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I wonder how big this hotel will actually be?

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Big enough for your helipad I’d assume.

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Could play a we game with various stadium names
Chocolate company’s have 2 peak periods, Xmas and Easter. So for starters
Cadbury’s Easter Rd Stadium😄

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Quality Hibs Street

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Whoever came up with that name deserves an award.

As for naming, my preferred option used to be Hibernian Insurance, but they sadly changed their name (to Aviva Ireland, I think).

I think Hibs should consider putting a sponsor's name of the roof of the East Stand, given it's visibility from passing planes.

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Brentford get a few bob for doing that. It's on the flight path into Heathrow.

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Could play a we game with various stadium names
Chocolate company’s have 2 peak periods, Xmas and Easter. So for starters
Cadbury’s Easter Rd Stadium[emoji1]

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A pal once said he would only accept it if apple took over the naming rights for Ibrox. He’s a hun ofc, iBrox was his suggestion. Genius actually.

But anyway it made me think what company would work with us, without having to change the name.
And for some reason I kept coming back to Cadburys. For the reasons you state above.

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A pal once said he would only accept it if apple took over the naming rights for Ibrox. He’s a hun ofc, iBrox was his suggestion. Genius actually.

But anyway it made me think what company would work with us, without having to change the name.
And for some reason I kept coming back to Cadburys. For the reasons you state above.

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Asking is we have nothing to do with Terrys

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Only if we get Crunchie as the half time guest 👍

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There's a wispa that might happen

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There's a wispa that might happen

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You are going off Topic.....

If the puns are starting it's usually a sign of the thread has run its course.

Not sure about chocolate, Rowntrees used to be called Duncan’s! 😬

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If the puns are starting it's usually a sign of the thread has run its course.

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It was bounty happen

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If the puns are starting it's usually a sign of the thread has run its course.

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I expect 'deeply offended, from Burton' will be along to tell us that soon.

Given Ron's US business connections:

Reece's Easter Egg Stadium.

I will try and put the thread back on track. From everything I've read from people within the club the seem to have been excited with Ron's vision for the club going forward.
I am genuinely looking forward to his announcements this month on what he has decided on the way forward.
Perhaps deals have been getting done behind the scenes on sponsorship etc .
The Hotel comments from some are intriqueing as Hibernian did have plans drawn up looking at the feasibility of this in the FF and a New building in the gap between the FF and the east .
With STF and Rod looking to move out perhaps Ron might look at this again as a way on improving revenue streams.
My gut feeling is this is what Ron and Archie will have been looking at the most how to boost the income stream, how to create a tie in with another club or clubs .
Whatever happens you have to hope for some exciting news and you never no maybe even a couple of good players coming in as well .
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I was totally excited when it all came about, but now I see him as the foreign girl who adds you on Facebook:

Why has she added me?
We've no connection?
She's promised me loads but never replies now?

The silence has been deafening.

We accepted STF not giving us the finances to compete with hearts and recently Aberdeen, because of everything he done for us. However I can't see some fans accepting it from Ron.

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I was totally excited when it all came about, but now I see him as the foreign girl who adds you on Facebook:

Why has she added me?
We've no connection?
She's promised me loads but never replies now?

The silence has been deafening.

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Does she ever end up replying?

Asking for a friend.

I think I'm far more comfortable with a considered and thorough approach to taking us forward than a rash 'rip it up and start again' approach.

He's had a good look at the club, from the due diligence ahead of purchasing it to understanding how it works and what he's got to work with. It's not an exciting approach but it is a necessary one, and what you hope to see is exciting plans and possibilities arising from it.

Things I'd expect/hope to see:
- improved retail set-up (think pop-up shops in each of the stand concourses on match days) and it will be easier to buy from the club

- change to the existing season ticket model to give more flexibility/options to supporters, possibly even a Netflix style membership option that lets you pay monthly permanently until such a time that you choose not to, so you're automatically renewed each season. More 'value' to be built into the season ticket offering (think things like discounts, Hibs TV subscription included etc)

- training centre upgraded and other 'long term' projects started. If I was Ron Gordon, I'd be insisting on a coach development program, designed in house to make sure that there's a consistency of performance and improvement from the coaching staff (at all levels)

- stadium refresh. General housekeeping and maintenance stuff, plus a few nice to haves (big screens, updated scoreboard) etc.

- Increase spend per seat: If I was Ron Gordon, I'd be looking at ways of getting people into Easter Road earlier, and making it easy for them to spend money while they were there. Would set a 'spend per seat' target for the marketing/finance guys and let them get creative with it. For example, I have a season ticket but I don't generally spend any money at the ground - the food's too expensive for poor quality, I don't always pass a program seller and, depending on where I park, I often won't even see the Shop. I doubt I'm unique in that respect, so finding a way to get supporters like me motivated to spend more time and money at Easter Road on a match day opens up a lot of potential income.

- Change the model for how transfer budget is allocated (assuming it's not done like this already). Allocate a budget to each position based on priority and then task the manager and recruitment team with the job of trading up over a period of time for each position. For example: we identify a striker as a priority, and we give that position a budget of £1m (for argument's sake, I'm not saying we'll have a million to spend on a striker). We spend it and give the new signing a 3-4 year deal. If the manager can develop that striker to the point where we sell him on for a profit, then the manager gets the million pounds plus the profit to replace the striker with.
Given we have most of the squad on longish contracts at the moment, this would allow the manager to target 2 or 3 key positions and add to it over time.

- improved sponsorship/corporate income. Expect this to be a priority and for us to have a 'best ever' deal with our next shirt sponsor next season

- some link with other teams, not necessarily in the US but would expect Hibs to become part of a network of teams that have a mutually beneficial arrangement.

- a nod towards a fairly hefty lift in the player budget short term, to underpin the other work and give the support confidence in the new owner.

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We accepted STF not giving us the finances to compete with hearts and recently Aberdeen, because of everything he done for us. However I can't see some fans accepting it from Ron.

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This is the third season in a row we have put Hearts in they'd box, and it's happening earlier every year. What's not to accept?

I'm pretty sure there is already a CPD for all the salaried coaches at Hibs Matty. But i agree with the point in general. A consistent approach to coaching at all levels too.

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This is the third season in a row we have put Hearts in they'd box, and it's happening earlier every year. What's not to accept?

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Finishing above hearts (as enjoyable as it is) should never be the limit of our ambition

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Finishing above hearts (as enjoyable as it is) should never be the limit of our ambition

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Probably.

Maybe there's a plan in place to put a giant net in front of the East and South Stands, to stop the bottles landing on the pitch. That could be a quite practical approach to a recurring issue.

Maybe Tasers for the Stewards as well, for when people invade the pitch.

:dunno:

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I'm pretty sure there is already a CPD for all the salaried coaches at Hibs Matty. But i agree with the point in general. A consistent approach to coaching at all levels too.

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I presumed there would be, I just wonder if there's scope to take it up a level.

That's no comment on what's currently there, by the way - it may already be the case that it's top class.

Hopefully looking to review our partnership with Ticketmaster is at the forefront of his thoughts.

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This is the third season in a row we have put Hearts in they'd box, and it's happening earlier every year. What's not to accept?

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Okay, Aberdeen then. They're not throwing crazy amount of cash around on transfer fees, however they pay a higher wage and they have around 3000 less season ticket holders then us.

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Okay, Aberdeen then. They're not throwing crazy amount of cash around on transfer fees, however they pay a higher wage and they have around 3000 less season ticket holders then us.

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I don't know how they do it. We should be aiming to finish as high up the league as poss, ImO.

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Maybe there's a plan in place to put a giant net in front of the East and South Stands, to stop the bottles landing on the pitch. That could be a quite practical approach to a recurring issue.

Maybe Tasers for the Stewards as well, for when people invade the pitch.

:dunno:

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The protective netting is commonplace in France and other countries, cheap and effective.

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I don't know how they do it. We should be aiming to finish as high up the league as poss, ImO.

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Are they not like the Yams and have a sugar daddy popping them cash?

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The protective netting is commonplace in France and other countries, cheap and effective.

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And Hamilton

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And Hamilton

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Really? I was last there for the relegation playoff first leg and I didn't notice any.

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Does she ever end up replying?

Asking for a friend.

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Once you verify you're a real person by giving her your card details and security code then she replies really quickly, I guess she's still away for the Christmas holidays as it's been 2 weeks since I last heard from her.

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I think I'm far more comfortable with a considered and thorough approach to taking us forward than a rash 'rip it up and start again' approach.

He's had a good look at the club, from the due diligence ahead of purchasing it to understanding how it works and what he's got to work with. It's not an exciting approach but it is a necessary one, and what you hope to see is exciting plans and possibilities arising from it.

Things I'd expect/hope to see:
- improved retail set-up (think pop-up shops in each of the stand concourses on match days) and it will be easier to buy from the club

- change to the existing season ticket model to give more flexibility/options to supporters, possibly even a Netflix style membership option that lets you pay monthly permanently until such a time that you choose not to, so you're automatically renewed each season. More 'value' to be built into the season ticket offering (think things like discounts, Hibs TV subscription included etc)

- training centre upgraded and other 'long term' projects started. If I was Ron Gordon, I'd be insisting on a coach development program, designed in house to make sure that there's a consistency of performance and improvement from the coaching staff (at all levels)

- stadium refresh. General housekeeping and maintenance stuff, plus a few nice to haves (big screens, updated scoreboard) etc.

- Increase spend per seat: If I was Ron Gordon, I'd be looking at ways of getting people into Easter Road earlier, and making it easy for them to spend money while they were there. Would set a 'spend per seat' target for the marketing/finance guys and let them get creative with it. For example, I have a season ticket but I don't generally spend any money at the ground - the food's too expensive for poor quality, I don't always pass a program seller and, depending on where I park, I often won't even see the Shop. I doubt I'm unique in that respect, so finding a way to get supporters like me motivated to spend more time and money at Easter Road on a match day opens up a lot of potential income.

- Change the model for how transfer budget is allocated (assuming it's not done like this already). Allocate a budget to each position based on priority and then task the manager and recruitment team with the job of trading up over a period of time for each position. For example: we identify a striker as a priority, and we give that position a budget of £1m (for argument's sake, I'm not saying we'll have a million to spend on a striker). We spend it and give the new signing a 3-4 year deal. If the manager can develop that striker to the point where we sell him on for a profit, then the manager gets the million pounds plus the profit to replace the striker with.
Given we have most of the squad on longish contracts at the moment, this would allow the manager to target 2 or 3 key positions and add to it over time.

- improved sponsorship/corporate income. Expect this to be a priority and for us to have a 'best ever' deal with our next shirt sponsor next season

- some link with other teams, not necessarily in the US but would expect Hibs to become part of a network of teams that have a mutually beneficial arrangement.

- a nod towards a fairly hefty lift in the player budget short term, to underpin the other work and give the support confidence in the new owner.

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Pre-match cheerleaders.

It’s ok Matty, you can admit it.

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Pre-match cheerleaders.

It’s ok Matty, you can admit it.

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From everything in that post, that's the bit I get called out for :faf: :greengrin

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I remember going to a game in Vienna where they had guys with large umbrellas to protect players taking corners.

I actually burst out laughing when I saw it.

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Pre-match cheerleaders.

It’s ok Matty, you can admit it.

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TYvlC8IxUP...eerleaders.jpg

^^

There we go. That will get the crowds flocking to ER nice and early.

Presumably the “G” stands for gorgeous?

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TYvlC8IxUP...eerleaders.jpg

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Still better than the ones that come on at rugby park

Gorgie boys

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From everything in that post, that's the bit I get called out for :faf: :greengrin

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Ha! Your post had a lot of good sense in it.

But a lot of these changes are things that the club should be getting on with behind the scenes. It’s the big stuff that grabs the headlines and sets the agenda... I am a bit surprised we haven’t heard more on that tbh (although the Hecky debacle may have got in the way of course).