Dont you talk to me about bladders Mr Bingo! Ive had four kids!! Pee in the pan man!!:greengrin
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Separate hot and cold taps where the hot water is like lava and the cold is like liquid helium. Why do toilets in the UK still install these things?
I don’t get the fact that most our bathrooms do not have a bidet!
sorry cant agree with your fist part, i got a skelp every now and again and i didnt grow up thinking smacking was or is ok, in fact i have never and would never raise a hand to my kids so agree with your second part, usually the look is enough to let them know!!
I don't get people thinking that giving up alcohol for a while is a "waste of time". :wink:
All fair enough but I don’t get the hype around the Ashes. It’s a tournament that only has two possible winners!
What is it about the English and their love of sporting events with only two teams - The Boat Race is another one!
I have to say that I don’t get F1 - it’s a sport where you need to be a millionaire before you can take it up seriously and even after that it seems to come down to who has the best car. It may be interesting if the drivers were randomly allocated cars before each race, we would then find out who the best driver was.
Brand driven follow the crowd non individuals.
It's not so much the fact that smacking kids will mean that they smack their kids that I meant, it's more that kids learn from smacking that violence is an acceptable way confirm authority or win an argument. When you hit a kid to make a point then that is the natural conclusion that the kid will learn.
Nah not having that at all. If you were to constantly beat a kid with no other form of parenting involved you may have a point. But to suggest that a child who is occasionally smacked whilst also being chastised and brought up in a proper manner by caring and loving parents will learn tbe natural conclusion of violence is to confirm authority or win an argument is total nonsense.
I'm not a massive fan of F1, but I do "get it".
I went to Silverstone in 1987 when Nigel Mansell caught Nelson Piquet with only a couple of laps to go, having been over 30 seconds behind.
There were loudspeakers around the track and the commentator kept the crowd informed as to how far behind Mansell was. It was a while ago so my memory may not be 100%accurate, but this is how I recall it;
30 seconds became 28. 28 became 26 and so on until he was about 10 seconds behind. Every couple of laps the commentator screamed that it was another lap record. It was amazing driving.
The next thing though, although the previous gap had been 10 seconds, was the 2 of them flying down the straight in front of us and Mansell was right up Piquet's exhaust. He'd caught up a huge gap!
We were watching on Hanger Straight, just before Stowe corner and the Mansell tricked Piquet into blocking to his left, then overtook on the inside. It was so exciting. The overtaking manoeve happened right in front of us. The noise that went up from the stands was deafening.
The noise of the cars, the smell of the high octane fuel, the speed. The speed is incredible.
And that's just the races. The whole experience is exciting. From the vast car parks accommodating every model of car you can think of, from Fiat Stradas ( in our case) to rare Ferraris, Lamborghinis and the rest.
The F1 village itself is an adult playground. All sorts of stalls, exhibitions, food and drink. I remember these tall, gorgeousMarlborough models in red jump suits wandering around handing out free cigs and lighters.
It was a very enjoyable experience and I wouldn't hesitate to go again, although I'm not sleeping in the car this time!!
Is it expensive? Yes, but not that much more than other world sporting events.
For example, if you want a 3 day weekend ticket for the Open at Carnoustie next July, you'll pay up to £165.
A general admission weekend ticket at Silverstone costs £185.
It's also a myth that the car wins the race and not the driver, but that's for another forum.
Thanks.
I found this account of the race. My version wasn't too far from the actuality.
Mansell was 28 seconds behind with 29 laps to go after a tyre change. He was also running on fumes. Astonishing.
https://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/07/...rix-flashback/
It's not me suggesting it though. There have been many scientific peer reviewed studies that prove smacking is detrimental to children's social and personal development. Children who have experienced corporal punishment from parents as a form of discipline are much more likely to themselves become bullies or develop criminal tendencies. The concept that spanking children is ok providing that the child is otherwise treated well in a loving family has also been disproved in several studies carried out in different cultures and all with the same findings, kids who are smacked are more likely to develop problems with self-esteem and social competency. Smacking is a quick fix but can have long term repercussions.
It would be interesting to find a study which compared the number of people who think hitting a child is acceptable who were punished that way themselves compared to those who were not.
(Apologies for the grammar, I hope you understand what I mean).
I would be surprised if the vast majority of those who defend hitting children, had not been hit by their own parents/ guardians.
And yet many thousands or probably millions suffer no detrimental affect what so ever. Similarily children who were brought up in the era's when smacking as a form of discipline was maybe more prevalent seem on tbe whole to be a whole lot more respectful to authority as opposed to the 'kids' running around and literally 'running' neighbourhoods these days? Seems that way to me anyway.
It's a well established fact that violence breeds violence and I wouldn't be surprised if there are studies out there confirming your suspicion. I've noticed in some studies it's often mentioned that some people are reluctant to condemn smacking children because it would be a kind of admission that their own parents mistreated them.
Elders perceiving that the younger generation show less respect than previous generations is as old as time itself and true in the sense that older people tend to have fully matured and are much more at ease with their social competencies. It's much more an age thing than a generation thing.
Whose to say that those kids "running neighbourhoods" haven't lost their respect towards society because they've been shown little or no respect from society? Most studies concur that antisocial behaviour is more likely to be a result of corporal punishment and none (0) have shown that corporal punishment has long term benefits on behaviour.
I don't thinks it's perception at all, it's fact. You only have to look at the way younsters respond to authority (a police officer) these days compared to 20 years ago. Studies are one thing, actually living through different generations and experiencing life as it really is are another. I know which one really tells the true story as experienced.
Studies are like stats, you can use them in various contexts to give various meanings, I take my views from real life experiences across differing social spectrums.
Funny thing personal experience. My experience tells me that things were worse 20 years ago and even worse 30 or 40 years ago. Niddrie, Greendykes, Wester Hails, Sighthill and many other areas of Edinburgh were rough as **** back in the day.
Personal experience is always subjective and depending on so many unaccountable factors that it's useless as a measuring stick when drawing comparisons. Scientific studies are objective and much more likely to give a better picture of the real situation.
Personal experience is useless as a measuring stick!
There is where we will have to draw this conversation to an end I'm afraid and agree to disagree. Otherwise I may come to the conclusion that I have wasted 50 years of my life.
Cheers for the chat though, you raise many interesting points.
The techno music thread. I naively thought there would be music in the links posted, it's just noise. Where's the guitars? :greengrin:duck:
Absolutely. Once I started to understand the game, it took hold and has never let me go. I too can watch T20 and 50-over games, but only as a quick fix between the real thing - test matches.
I once tried to watch Aussie Rules, though. Whisky Tango Foxtrot? :confused:
Nandos. Overrated and overpriced *****.
My car's bigger than your car. :na na:
:wtf:
Decent chips. Are they a thing of the past?
Burgers you can't pick up and eat without eating the tower of toppings.
People that cant accept something costs what it costs, and try to negotiate and haggle over prices like they're in a bazaar somewhere. I blame The Apprentice TV show, where the competitors all seem to be encouraged to haggle at every possible opportunity.
Donuts and cup cakes
Playing FIFA on games consoles (been p1sh since pro ev was the main game about 10 years ago).
Prosecco
Starting the majority of social media posts with "when..." (okay that's more of a peeve)
People's fascination with Royal Weddings and Babies (Especially those that are otherwise not into the Royal Family!.. "what dress do you think she'll wear, what will they call it etc etc **** off!!)
Leaving the label on baseball caps is now the fashion?
Tonic water - it's honking
Tea & Coffee
IPA and fruity-tasting beers (I want my lager to taste like lager.. not apricots)
Drinking games - they're *****, not amusing, and don't make me drink any quicker than I would be if I was just sitting having a laugh and a drink.
Formula 1
Bull-ring type piercings on women
It depends on the product or service. But if you've advertised something at a certain price, done the work to complete satisfaction, the client agreed the terms and proce before you got underway etc etc, and then the client starts haggling:rolleyes: I just get this feeling of dread and 'oh why did i bother putting my effort into doing great work for this person'. Its all about respect and appreciation for someone's labour. If you're in a flea market on holiday, I get that's acceptable. But i never feel comfortable doing it even then, to be honest.
I understand and no, I'd never haggle an agreed price. I'll ask for estimates and I'll pay whichever price I take.
I will ask for the price to be sharpened if I'm buying stuff like hi-fi equipment, furniture, luxury goods, cars and more.
I even managed to save several hundred off my house sale fees by playing a cheaper estate agent (Mov8, I think) off against my preferred one, Neilsons. Same with Pickford's removals.
Strangely enough, I don't like haggling for ordinary stuff when I'm abroad even though it's expected.
People who go to concerts then spend the entire time blethering and/or constantly going back and forth to the bar. I came to see the band play, not to spend my evening getting jostled by folk who don’t seem interested. If having a drink is that important, buy the CD and sit in the house/pub, it’s surely cheaper.
Professional athletes who don’t seem to understand how to utilise the benefits in front of them to maximise their ability to perform. People who work in an office don’t knowing and willingly use an old computer as it will detrimentally affect their performance, why do athletes drink/eat crap knowing it will lessen their body’s ability to perform?
Just watched an Aussie dude, Sam Simmons on Live at the Apollo, makes Russell Howard out to be a comedy genius. Absolute pish I have to say.
The late John Martyn.
I know there's loads of musicians who love his work (Clappers for one) however, he's not my bag and I don't know why.
Folk that don't like fish.
Ufc.
Those bright verge lights at each end of the Queensferry Crossing. :wtf:
Most chippies buy in huge bags of ready to fry ones. The secret to crisp on the outside relatively soft inside is to peel in season fresh as you can find them maris pipers. Fry them once for around 4 or 5 minutes and let them rest for an hour or two. After resting fry them again until your personal choice of colour and how well done you like them and they are normally how you remember them from days gone by. Lots of salt and their ready to go. Once a week I'll do this for a treat using my home fryer. The fresher the potato the crisper they'll fry up.
Mon the Cabbage!!!
Madame Peeve likes us to have a varied and balanced diet so I'll often eat fish and may sometimes even enjoy it, but I'll rarely choose it in a restaurant.
I generally avoid shellfish (especially things like oysters - that look like they may have come out of someones nose) but will eat the likes of langoustines where at least there's a decent lump of 'meat' to get your teeth around.
:greengrin
this.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-affect-taste/
Its no wonder green tomato ketchup didn't take off.
I don't like anything that's smoked.
I gave up smoking years ago and can't stand it now so why should I eat stuff that reminds me of it? :wink:
I don't get how it's called 'progress' to stop using a light bulb that lights up instantly to one that takes several minutes to light up.
:crazy: (and stuff this 'saving the environment' bollocks, btw)
I was the same years ago, but love all fish now.
Try starting with swordfish as this isn't "fishy", at all. Taste and texture very like pork.
Then move onto Marlin which again is more like pork or lamb. Then tuna steak,(not tinned) cooked with lemon grass in oven.
Shark is like chicken, best from a restaurant as it needs prepared properly.
Fresh ,as in harbour restaurant fresh, sea bass is very slightly fishy similar to chippy cod.
If you still can't stand it by now then give up, or try calamari, which is like onion rings.
I still don't get it.
I love all fish, be it haddock, trout, prawns, mussels, octopus or squid etc etc.
I certainly prefer fish to steak, which is extremely hit or miss, in my experience.
I had sea bass last night. Pan fred skin side down in a little olive oil for 4 minutes, then turned and fried for a further 1 minute.
Simple, easy and delicious. I eat the crispy skin, but Mrs HR leaves hers so I get to pick on it. :drool:
Dunno how it's not been mentioned yet, but this unchecked fashion of wearing shoes with no socks!
Like most fashions, these things are cyclical, I get wearing trainers without socks, sandals (obviously) and espadrilles but leather shoes & brogues?!?
Unlike many fashions though it's not just the kids, grown men with hairy ankles, jeans a couple inches too short and a pair of Louboutin loafers,,,,I just don't get it!
Another good mystery.
People who refuse to even try a bit of things to see if they like them or not.
Things that millions of people eat or drink every day, because they're enjoyable.
Try a bit gherkin. Oh no.
Olive? Oh no.
A mussel? Oh no.
Some crab meat? Oh no.
FFS!
What's the worst that could happen?
Everyone apart from me seems to like their bacon well-done and crispy.
Much prefer my roll full of big soft bacon :agree:
That's what living with Mrs PB is like. She's a bloody nightmare. I do all the cooking in our house and it's like dealing with a 5 year old.
'I don't like that'
Have you tried it'
'No but it looks funny'
I have to hide things or pretend they are something else so she will eat it.
The only food I have refused to at least try as an adult is gooseberries. I had a gooseberry fool as a child and was sick not long after. It may or may not have been that but it put me off them, I tried a gooseberry crumble a few years later and it made me feel like I was about to throw up again. My tastes may have changed but it's pretty much a phobia now.
As a child brought up as a buthers son, I used to eat hearts, kidney and liver regularly and enjoy it. Now I can't stand liver or kidney, hate the taste and texture of liver and the taste of kidney makes me want to puke.
I don't get how/why others don't get that I don't like, or indeed even want to sample, eating something just because they happen to like it.
You like eating mussels?
Fine. Just don't do it anywhere near me. You like eating bogeys? Same applies.
And if you like picking bits of sweet corn out your **** to recycle I will find you repulsive.
In the same way I despise the cretins on I'm a "Celebrity" being feted for eating bugs, eyeballs and testicles.
And YES I would eat a gooseberry - but I wouldn't bore you all with a TV show about it (or harass you if you didn't fancy eating one too).