Just bought tickets for Champions Day at Ascot. £45 for the Winning Post Enclosure which seems reasonable for the quality of racing.
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Just bought tickets for Champions Day at Ascot. £45 for the Winning Post Enclosure which seems reasonable for the quality of racing.
Sad news from Paul Nicholls tonight.
Silviniaco Conti has died after an accident whilst team chasing at the weekend. Vets thought he would be fine but he took a bad turn today and had to be PTS.
That's really awful news, Silvianaco Conti was a really good horse who always gave his all and will be remembered by many, RIP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Thats sad to hear, he looked after me well over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Wow fantastic. Just being close to those amazing thoroughbreds is worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
And the fillies!
I was reading The Giants Causeway has died in Kentucky aged 21.
I'm not a huge fan of the flat but he was a monster of a horse, never knew when he was beat and never finished outside the top 2.
One of my favourite horses of all time, sad news indeed. Heart of a lion, always fought to the line, RIP GC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Giants Causeway was one of my all time favourite horses, probably the toughest I’ve ever seen. A sad loss.
That was some performance by Masar in The Craven Stakes, highly impressive.
Announced that Our Duke has sadly passed away due to a heart attack. He was always a fragile horse but it’s terribpy sad news.
Yep, I honestly thought they'd worked out a way to keep him fit and healthy, RIP Our Duke.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibernianJK
I'm a reasonable man but I hope some serious misfortune comes Paul Townends way.
What the **** was going through his head? I was on Finians Oscar, I'm not saying he would have won, but that inexplicable manoeuvre made sure he didn't.
I was also on FO and was quite sure he would have won. We all know the engine he has. Has Townend spoken about the incident? One of the strangest things I’ve seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Great to sew Faugheen back on form today. Mullins seemed to suggest the plan would have been retirement had he struggled today but not he'll likely go chasing next season.
I see Jim Delahunt won the naps table. That’s a pretty good achievement considering who he was up against. When I used to buy the old sporting life, I used to have a bet on the horse that was tipped up by the most in the naps table.
Katie Walsh has a winner at Punchestown and promptly announces her retirement. Good luck to her, whilst her achievements will always be talked about in terms of being a 'female jockey' her record stands up against plenty of the men:
3 Festival wins
Irish Grand National
2 Grade 1s
3rd in the National
If the plan is chasing you would imagine it would be for a punt at the Gold Cup. Would love to see Faugheen chasing as he always looked like he would jump a brilliant fence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
More bad luck for me yesterday with Getabird and Samcro. Getabird really does seem to blow hot and cold after running really poorly earlier in the week seemed to be cruising when crashing into the railings when 2 horses fell right in front of him. Very frustrating.
Cracksman eventually winning the Prix Ganay comfortably as the odds suggest. He seemed to come under pressure some way out but when he got past the pacemaker eased down.
Saxon Warrior was a good winner of the 2000 Guineas, already odds on for the Derby. Great run by the runner up at 50/1.
On a similar note - Cliffs of Moher gets the job done over in Ireland after being somewhat disappointing since his Epsom attempt last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
God it's good to have the real racing back :greengrin
Very impressed with Roaring Lion in The Dante (the fact I backed him might've helped), the longer trip brought out a fair amount of improvement in him, now 2nd fav for The Derby.
I was down there yesterday, I had mildenberger on an each way.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Was on a jolly with a supplier up on the fourth floor of the county stand. Superb day out, not least because I did a £5 placepot which came in, after a nervous wait on stewards enquiry on the 5th race. [emoji857]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...30a5c26f71.jpg
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Thats a nice lift!
I've spent a few good days in that County Stand, particularly in the '90s for The Ebor Meeting.
Nice one, well done.Quote:
Originally Posted by degenerated
I can take or leave the flat but I love York. Many a happy day spent on the Knavesmire at the Dante and Ebor meetings.
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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
That's a couple of times I've been to York and it's a great day out.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Gets a bit lively at night when there's a meeting. Boozer I was in late last night was mobbed with loud drunk Livingston fans.
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Post racing in the pubs of York can certainly be a bit "tasty" in more ways than one. Always some fine sights to be seen too. :-)
The Punch Bowl (pre Spoons days) was always our pre-races venue.
I remember the first time we went down we all arranged to meet in The Punch Bowl, unknown to us there were two Punch Bowls in York (not sure if thats the case now), myself and my mate went to one where there was a womens darts match on (Haxby Road) and the rest of them met in the one near the train station. IIRC Hibs lost to Dundee Utd in The League Cup that night too!
Yep, he was impressive. The one I liked too was Knight To Behold who won the Lingfield Derby trial. He's currently trading at around the 16/1 mark which I think's a great price.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
A quick heads up re the new GDPR Regs, I was talking to a guy that works in Laddies earlier who was telling me that any money won via FOBTs or the Bet Stations can now only be collected in the same shop, worth bearing in mind if placing a bet if you are away elsewhere for a day out etc.
I had a tenner ew on Masar @ 16s for The Derby after he won The Craven, which is nice! 5ew for my old man too.
Good stuff, well done mate, great price too! I woudn't have touched him after the 2000 Guineas but soft ground won the day at Epsom today, the first and 2nd are soft/heavy ground horses and the going was soft. Not that you'll be bothering about that!Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Was it not the case that the ground was drying out all day so they kept away from the stands rail apart from in the 5f race?Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
At the moment I'm not capable of presenting a coherent argument, I'm a tad the worse for my day out!
:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Denman died yesterday aged 18. He'd had a good retirement team chasing then went back to Paul Nicholls last year as he wasn't able to be ridden anymore. He's been ill for a while and a decision was taken.
I'd like to think him and Kauto Star are galloping away in the big racecourse in the sky together.
Hopefully mate. One of the great rivalries in NH racing and they both elevated the sport to a wider audienceQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Very sad news about Denman, an example of a horse with the perfect temperament for racing. He was my favourite horse from the Nicholls yard and tried every step of the way in every race he ran.
On the flat, Justify became the 13th Triple Crown winner today. A truly remarkable performance since he never ran as a 2 year old. Brilliant horse and still unbeaten too..
Very sad news about Finian's Oscar who has had to be put down after a bout of colic. A talented but quirky novice chaser destined for a prolific career until this happened. RIP Finian's Oscar.
Read this earlier. I was convinced he was going to be a more than decent staying chaser in time, we'll never know.Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
That turned out to be a lot of nonsense, was able to collect my England -1 goal bet I put on on a machine in Carlisle in a shop in Edinburgh yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Another fine dislay from Alpha Centauri @ Nmkt today to back up her blistering run at The Royal Meeting.
He didn't really beat anything today but he really looks the part on firm ground. Good horse.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Pretty certain the horse is a filly.
Oooops, you're quite right!!Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Just watched yesterday's Juddmonte, what a run by Roaring Lion, must be the best 10f horse in Europe.
Smooth win for Sea of Class in The Yorkshire Oaks, Coronet comes out the race with a lot of credit giving the winner 9lbs. O'Brien horses not firing over the last 10 days or so.
I was very impressed with Sea of Class, sitting at the back coming into the home straight then breezing past a good field. She's still improving as well. Very good horse. I thought 7/4 was a cracking price too.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
I had a bet on the last at York too, and did something I don't normally do, bet on 2 horses. I had the winner each way and the favourite on the nose, so at least I got something back for it. It's a bit of a strange setup for a 7 furlong race at York, they turn a corner nearly as tight as Catterick before coming into the home straight.
The St Leger and Gold Cup weekends seem to have moved to a week later than i remember them being. When did this happen?
Good comeback by Enable, quickening from the front to beat Crystal Ocean. She was carrying 8lb less than the runner up and it was on the allweather but still good enough to make her 2/1 favourite for the Arc. Crystal Ocean still ran a good race, at level weights might get a bit closer. Good to see Enable back though.
Alpha Centauri and Saxon Warrior retired today, shame for Irish racing. Another fine run over 10f from Roaring Lion yesterday, I think we saw a Guineas winner in Too Darn Hot too, although Quorto was impressive today also.
Enable wins the Arc for the 2nd time, great horse. On this occasion I think she was fortunate, only a head/short head in it. The draw was significant today and Sea of Class would definitely have won in the next stride or 2. Sea of Class had a rotten draw out wide and came late and fast but congrats to Enable anyway.
Get what you're saying although I'm reluctant to call her fortunate. Maybe if the draws were reversed, the race works out differently and Enable wins going away, as opposed to getting to the front and seeing off the late challenge of SOC. I guess we'll never know for sure but regardless, it was both gutsy and classy from the winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
I did think SOC was the winner with half a furlong to go though, and as you say, another few yards and the result would have been different.
More to come for SOC. And a special horse is Enable.
I backed the 4th ew, decent enough run without ever being in with a chance of winning.
Thinking it even more after the Dewhurst, never backed him but, EVS, what a price! Backed the 3rd ew in The Ces @ 14s, returned 25s, tad annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Great discussion, conversation but i wanna just get a answer from here that, does anybody here get genuine tips for horses/greyhound etc
I was determined to take him on at a shade of odds-on as convinced myself he would hate the ground and was there for the taking. Very taking performance given conditions weren't in favour.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
John Ryan saying his Battle of waterloo wins, owners have flown down from Scotland today
3.00 Yarmouth
Now 5-2
Edit John Ryan doesn’t know much about his own horses 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by IanM
Luca Cumani's last runner today in the 5.30 at Wolverhampton and there seems to be a trend where jockeys or trainers last horse obliges.
Swansdown, also owned by the traner, 2yo daughter of Dubawi into a handicap for the first time, significantly down in grade and upped in trip, Oisin Murphy on board. First time on the Tapeta but opening mark of 63 could be generous. Shade of odds against still available, 11/10 with Bet 365.
If Luca turns up to watch it on a Wednesday night at Wolverhampton that might also be an indicator of the expected result.
Usual caveats apply :wink:
Close but no cigar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnus
Looking forward to the Betfair Chase on Saturday. Only 5 declared but what a line up:
Bristol De Mai
Clan Des Obeaux
Might Bite
Native River
Thistlecrack
The Cheltenhan Open meeting through the Tingle Creek is when the NH season really comes alive imo. A few of the bigger names have started to show their hands and I start getting tempted to stick my hand in my pocket.
Great performance by Bristol De Mai, won the race pretty comfortably. He does love Haydock. I thought the 2 Tizzard horses both ran really well too. Good race to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
13/2 a cracking price for a horse that coasted to victory in the same race last year. I don't bet on horses now but if still did I would have backed it. Hope a few on here backed it and won a few quid.Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
BDM looks almost unbeatable at Haydock, he just comes alive there. Native River is very one paced but he'll still be a contender in March as he's durable and will come on for the run. Thistlecrack coasted along but he can't jump fences, especially those as stiff as at Haydock yesterday, he lost ground at almost every obstacle. Clan Des Obeaux and Might Bite both look very tired horses at the end. On good ground I can only assume they needed the run.
Well, that makes a pleasant change, managed to back Elegant Escape, can't remember the last Welsh National winner I managed to back. Got a price boost to 19/4 earlier this morning which was nice.
I had the 2nd, would've won bar a mistake at the 3rd last.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Would it aye? 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
Yours ran a great race and made it interesting but I genuinely think the winner had a bit more in hand and would have won anyway. I didn't have a bet but watched it anyway and is a neutral opinion. Unlucky mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
What’s the thoughts on the equine flu and Cheltenham? Will it postpone or will the festival be cancelled?
It's now been confirmed as the same strain that shut Australian racing down for the best part of 6 months. It's not looking promising.Quote:
Originally Posted by LustForLeith
Wow. I was going to start studying for the festival this weekend. Think I’ll wait a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I suppose they need to confirm how serious it is but surely this will have a massive effect on the industry, not just Cheltenham.
Watched Luck on sunday today - I think the only danger now is not every horse will get swabbed cause there is a shortage of swabs! By all account 1500 now have came back clear with exception of Donald McCain’s 3 so fingers crossed racing starts again this weekQuote:
Originally Posted by LustForLeith
If it rears again though it may well be close
First year in at least a dozen I don’t have anything mate post
Another 4 cases in Newmarket confirmed and a horses confirmed as died elsewhere in Suffolk.
I think the issue isn't going to be within racing. The complete lockdown and the fact Donald McCain reported his cases quickly will have helped massively added to the fact most racehorses should be vaccinated which will limit the effects of the symptoms. The problem is going to be among other horses, ponies, donkeys etc. despite the way it's been reported it's not a racing specific illness. There was at least 4 hunts out over the weekend, there was harness racing, there would be thousand of horses out hacking and so on. If the infection spreads among those animals it will inevitably end up in racing yards.
British racing back on Wednesday.
Too Darn Hot out of Greenham Stakes on Saturday (heat in a leg) and now heads straight to The Guineas.
For those who bet on the horses are there any particular online bookies you'd recommend or are the all much the same?
They are all pretty much the same tbh. I would probably go for William Hill or Paddy Power personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
I use Bet365 as they generally have pretty good offers on the bigger races.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
if you take early prices it makes all the difference shopping around.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
Oddschecker always worth a look if you're betting a single. But if it's more about opening one account and sticking with it.. I'd concur with bet365 being among the best.Quote:
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Betfair Exchange for non favs.
Now been ruled out of The Guineas too.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
What a fantastic day ahead.
https://www.racingpost.com/news/satu...ng-role/382249
Yes, I was just looking at the Curragh card tomorrow, and there's some fantastic runners and races; even Detorri has been tempted to go over.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Who do you fancy in the Too Darn Hot/Magna Grecia duel?
Calyx already around 1/7 in his four horse race at Haydock! Should be a procession him.
I feel really sorry for Too Darn Hot who could've become the next Frankel, Gosden is trying to steal a classic but, I fear it might harm the long term prospects of the horse,Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
I've jumped in again ew with Skardu.
Aye, Skardu looks clearly the best of the rest and represents best value. I'm not sure what to back as yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
As your link says, there is some tremendous talent running tomorrow at several meets. I might go radge with a Too Darn Hot, Calyx, Leodis Dream, Battaash acca (along with a couple of others) and be done with it :greengrin
Is there any point in putting Calyx in there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Not really, but a win is a win. It's unthinkable he could lose that race. Very little to be gained though.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Exactly my point, good luck thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
I'll take another look in the morning and decide what to back. Lots of terrific runners but lots of tough races too.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Not a tip but something to ponder. Twice in the last week I've heard Aiden O'Brien bring Mohawk into the conversation unprompted when he's been asked about other horses he trains. Each time he said Mohawk ran well in the Dee stakes and didn't mention Circus Maximus who won it. Now it wouldn't be the first time an O'Brien outsider has sprung a shock in a big race so the 33/1 available last night on Betfair for today's Irish 2,000 swung it for me for a wee E/W tickle.
Calyx beaten at 1/7. He was dreadful and would have cost a lot of people a lot of money.
Phoenix of Spain blows away both Too Darn Hot and Magna Grecia. It was billed as a two horse race, but Phoenix of Spain made them both look like they were running through treacle and was running away from them at the finish. Another huge upset on the day at 16/1.
What's happened to Too Darn Hot, he seems to have gone backwards so quickly?
It was a strange decision to run TDH today only a week after York. An unusually poor decision by the normally shrewd John Gosden. Turning a low level handicapper round in that time frame is fine but it's strange to do with a Grade 1 horse with a stud value.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Tbh it's not that unknown for a dominant 2 year old to find life tougher at 3 as some other horses grow into themselves and they maybe don't have as much scope as them to grow up and improve.
Derby day this weekend and I just saw this on Twitter and it's really a quite amazing stat:
Incredibly, all 13 declared runners in the Investec Derby @EpsomRacecourse
are either sons, grandsons or great grandsons of Galileo. That includes Sir Dragonet (Camelot) whose second dam is a full sister to Galileo.
Whatever happens it's a win for Coolmore. Galileo is 21 now so he probably doesn't have too many stud seasons left. His stud fee is private but is rumoured to be €350 000 for a live foal. It wouldn't shock me to see that rise again as he ages and his fertility decreases.
Tomorrow's Oaks
£10ew Maqsad 6/1 (very good value)
£5ew Tarnawa 22/1 (nice wee outsider)
What's everyone backing?
I backed Medaayih and Sir Dragonet before they were officialy entered. 2 x £40 win singles and a £20 win double at 11/2 and 7/2. Not my usual type of bet at all but was seriously impressed with the way they both won their trials.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Circus Maximus.
That was wide open. Anthony Van Dyke wins. Thought Broome was a good bet but not to be.
i had the Derby winner in an each-way Lucky 15 so quite pleased from that perspective. He seemed to stay the best of all of them, so might be a good bet for the Leger. I thought the fav ran fine, but he's too inexperienced a horse for a race like this IMO, and probably would have preferred softer ground too. A lot of people were talking up Telecaster before the race but he ran a stinker and finished last.
And there were doubts about ADV's stamina too. Great ride to get him on the inside and give him the rail in the final furlong. Is he down for the St Leger?Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
Guys, do any of you subscribe to Racing TV. How much is it?