Christmas Light Switch on in Dundee

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Originally Posted by Green Mikey

My point still stands re Bravest. If he put a collection of smileys after every offensive post would it got him off the hook?

Again, you'll need to ask the admin team that. Possibly you don't know the whole story as to why he was banned. I would hazard a guess that the fact that he was very good at slinging personal insults at people might have been a factor.

I must be in the minority then:wink: Would you like the majority of people to admit to be racist so that could air your views without having to halfheartedly recind them through smileys?

I just feel that quite a lot of people deny being racist when they probably are.

What do you class as a racist? Personally, I would say it is someone like you...believe that the majority hold your view yet backtrack when it is questioned...show complete ignorance to immigrants and the role they play in our society...brand anyone who disagrees with you as a 'do-gooder' or the 'PC brigade'.

Isn't it great to live in a democracy where people can share their views, even if they don't agree? I have no issue with you calling me racist, I have reasons for having these views which I'm not discussing here. They may be blinkered, but so be it.

Depends on the joke, the circumstances and the people involved, nothing is that black and white.
Sorry, but I don't agree. I know a lot of people who would deny being a racist but would laugh at any kind of racist joke going. Are they racist?

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"Two things that I really hate in this world:

One is racists

The other is pakis"

If you laugh, are you a racist?

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

I get it, opinion falls into two schools of thought:idea:. You and the rest of the world. :faf:

If they couldn't afford a new sign why didn't they just keep the old one in the shed?:dunno:

Me and my berate are very happy together by the way, and if you try to send it back to Beratia then you'll meet a very angry clique (me and my real cousin) standing next to your tractor in the morning.

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Because it's their big fancy dancy one at the end of the main street going into the City Square. They can't leave it down because then the circuit for the lights wouldn't be finished off and none of them would work. Jeezo!

Wish I'd had a tractor to get through the snow on Tuesday night when I was coming home.:yawn:

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

"Two things that I really hate in this world:

One is racists

The other is pakis"

If you laugh, are you a racist?

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I would say "not". That's because the joke is at the expense of someone too ignorant to appreciate the irony of what he has just said.

I prefer the more PC jokes. This is one I used to tell when I was taxi driving.

"I had a Hindu, a Jew and a Catholic in the back of the cab last night".......

(Pause whilst passengers turn pale, and put on faces which are a cross between a smile and what you would do if you found **** on your toothbrush).

....I thought what a great example of religious harmony".

The joke there (as I see it) is that they made an assumption about me, sized me up, and expected a racist punchline. The fact that they saw potential racism in the joke points to their own prejudices.

But when a joke hurts a racial group then that is racist. That's how I see it, I had Ed Byrne, Dara O'Brain and a couple of other well known comics in the cab once, and that's how they see it as well.

And if a couple of Micks agree with you then.......doh!

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

Because it's their big fancy dancy one at the end of the main street going into the City Square. They can't leave it down because then the circuit for the lights wouldn't be finished off and none of them would work. Jeezo!

Wish I'd had a tractor to get through the snow on Tuesday night when I was coming home.:yawn:

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It's made itself at home in Dundee anyway.

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

Isn't it great to live in a democracy where people can share their views, even if they don't agree? I have no issue with you calling me racist, I have reasons for having these views which I'm not discussing here. They may be blinkered, but so be it.

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I was right, you are a racist. What a terrible thing to be.

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

I would say "not". That's because the joke is at the expense of someone too ignorant to appreciate the irony of what he has just said.

I prefer the more PC jokes. This is one I used to tell when I was taxi driving.

"I had a Hindu, a Jew and a Catholic in the back of the cab last night".......

(Pause whilst passengers turn pale, and put on faces which are a cross between a smile and what you would do if you found **** on your toothbrush).

....I thought what a great example of religious harmony".

The joke there (as I see it) is that they made an assumption about me, sized me up, and expected a racist punchline. The fact that they saw potential racism in the joke points to their own prejudices.

But when a joke hurts a racial group then that is racist. That's how I see it, I had Ed Byrne, Dara O'Brain and a couple of other well known comics in the cab once, and that's how they see it as well.

And if a couple of Micks agree with you then.......doh!



It's made itself at home in Dundee anyway.

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A joke stolen from John Thomson, well done. :clapper:

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Originally Posted by Green Mikey

I was right, you are a racist. What a terrible thing to be.

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And it's taken you 204 posts to work that out. Go you!

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

I have reasons for having these views which I'm not discussing here.

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Oh go on...

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

I would say "not". That's because the joke is at the expense of someone too ignorant to appreciate the irony of what he has just said.

I prefer the more PC jokes. This is one I used to tell when I was taxi driving.

"I had a Hindu, a Jew and a Catholic in the back of the cab last night".......

(Pause whilst passengers turn pale, and put on faces which are a cross between a smile and what you would do if you found **** on your toothbrush).

....I thought what a great example of religious harmony".

The joke there (as I see it) is that they made an assumption about me, sized me up, and expected a racist punchline. The fact that they saw potential racism in the joke points to their own prejudices.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svLyyzBC_qI

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolHibs

Oh go on...

Nope! :greengrin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svLyyzBC_qI

:greengrin

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That's the bunny! The whole Live 'n' Lewd show is brilliant. One of my favourite Steve Coogan shows. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

A joke stolen from John Thomson, well done. :clapper:

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:fishin:
:stirrer:
:devil:

Have I got this right?

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

:fishin:
:stirrer:
:devil:

Have I got this right?

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Nah, you forgot this one:

:asshole:

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

And it's taken you 204 posts to work that out. Go you!

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It's taken me so long to work this out because it was previously beyond my reckoning that someone with such foul views could be so triumphant about voluntarily adopting a 'blinkered view'.

ArabHibee - Racist and proud.

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Originally Posted by Green Mikey

It's taken me so long to work this out because it was previously beyond my reckoning that someone with such foul views could be so triumphant about voluntarily adopting a 'blinkered view'.

ArabHibee - Racist and proud.

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:dancer: Go Arab, Go Arab

Suppose if you're bothering me, you're leaving someone else alone.

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

"Two things that I really hate in this world:

One is racists

The other is pakis"

If you laugh, are you a racist?

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Didnt laugh because, well, it just wasnt funny.

A couple of queries for you Arab

1) Taking your "if they cant speak the language they shouldnt be here" idea. Lets say Miss Pole comes over. Intelligent, degree educated, ambitious but not great at English. She wants to learn, and wants to earn her way rather than accept any form of hand out. So she gets a job with a catering comapny who put here on a serving job at Easter Road one day a week. Good opportunity to learn english, interacting in a real environment, you would have thought. By your lights, is she not allowed to even set foot inside the country until she can speak English, or kept in a darkened classroom living in the country with no means of support until she can converse to an Arab define acceptable level.

2) Are Americans or Australians coming over doing bar work or the like ok?

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Originally Posted by TwoCarpets

Didnt laugh because, well, it just wasnt funny.

A couple of queries for you Arab

1) Taking your "if they cant speak the language they shouldnt be here" idea. Lets say Miss Pole comes over. Intelligent, degree educated, ambitious but not great at English. She wants to learn, and wants to earn her way rather than accept any form of hand out. So she gets a job with a catering comapny who put here on a serving job at Easter Road one day a week. Good opportunity to learn english, interacting in a real environment, you would have thought. By your lights, is she not allowed to even set foot inside the country until she can speak English, or kept in a darkened classroom living in the country with no means of support until she can converse to an Arab define acceptable level.

2) Are Americans or Australians coming over doing bar work or the like ok?

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You're up late tonight!

Read through my previous posts, you'll find the answers to your questions in there.

Or draw your own conclusions, I really couldn't give a hoot. I've been outed as a racist, what more proof do you want?

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

You're up late tonight!

Read through my previous posts, you'll find the answers to your questions in there.

Or draw your own conclusions, I really couldn't give a hoot. I've been outed as a racist, what more proof do you want?

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Loving it.

The latest switch of attitude now is the slightly aloof, brushing it off approach. Worthy of inclusion on the "inverse snobbery" thread.

Would you take blood from a Pole, or have an operation performed by an Indian, or maybe have a haircut by an italian? Seriously, you need to think about stuff, realise you live in a big world, and emerge out of your little stupidity cocoon.

Ok, you're not going to leave it until I answer the questions for you:

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Originally Posted by TwoCarpets

Didnt laugh because, well, it just wasnt funny.

A couple of queries for you Arab

1) Taking your "if they cant speak the language they shouldnt be here" idea. Lets say Miss Pole comes over. Intelligent, degree educated, ambitious but not great at English. She wants to learn, and wants to earn her way rather than accept any form of hand out. So she gets a job with a catering comapny who put here on a serving job at Easter Road one day a week. Good opportunity to learn english, interacting in a real environment, you would have thought. By your lights, is she not allowed to even set foot inside the country until she can speak English, or kept in a darkened classroom living in the country with no means of support until she can converse to an Arab define acceptable level.

So what exactly is she bringing to the table at this precise moment in time? Nothing. So she can stay in Poland and live an earning there.

2) Are Americans or Australians coming over doing bar work or the like ok?
Not particularly, but at least they speak English

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Originally Posted by TwoCarpets

Loving it.

The latest switch of attitude now is the slightly aloof, brushing it off approach. Worthy of inclusion on the "inverse snobbery" thread.

Would you take blood from a Pole, Not if I could help it
or have an operation performed by an Indian, would I have a choice on the NHS?
or maybe have a haircut by an italian? My hairdresser is Scottish. Fair enough, she's a Tim, but you can't have it all your own way.
Seriously, you need to think about stuff, realise you live in a big world, and emerge out of your little stupidity cocoon.

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And FYI I'm not being slightly aloof, I'm getting bored of answering the same questions all the time.

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

Ok, you're not going to leave it until I answer the questions for you:

And FYI I'm not being slightly aloof, I'm getting bored of answering the same questions all the time.

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Wow.
And wow again.
I think I'll duck out of this thread now as your level of unpleasantness and deep, deep fundamental ignorance is clearly beyond any redemption or grown up discussion.

I'm almost tempted to patronise you by saying I feel sorry for you, but I don't, because you are clearly wilfully stupid which is an unforgiveable arrogance.

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Originally Posted by TwoCarpets

Wow.
And wow again.
I think I'll duck out of this thread now as your level of unpleasantness and deep, deep fundamental ignorance is clearly beyond any redemption or grown up discussion.

I'm almost tempted to patronise you by saying I feel sorry for you, but I don't, because you are clearly wilfully stupid which is an unforgiveable arrogance.

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Cheers.

Thanks for your input.

NEXT!

Well what do you know, according to this article one in five Scots are unable to read or write properly, and employers are being forced to hire staff who cannot communicate adequately in the workplace. Maybe we should get our own house in order, before lambasting immigrants for their communication skills.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6943751.ece

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Originally Posted by Betty Boop

Well what do you know, according to this article one in five Scots are unable to read or write properly, and employers are being forced to hire staff who cannot communicate adequately in the workplace. Maybe we should get our own house in order, before lambasting immigrants for their communication skills.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6943751.ece

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Thats all well and good though, but ours are good anglo-saxon/celtic stock illiterates (apart from 2nd or 3rd generation italians or irish of course, but they dont reallycount as yer actual foreigners, ken), none of these slavic educationally sub-normals here. Oh no.

I mean, isnt it better to have someone say;
"Haw man, goannae gies that hingmy,ken? wi' the hing likes" in a kind of defensively mumbled slack jawed drawl rather than. "Please, where may this be, where is it" in less than Arabesquely perfect English but in a strong Polish accent.

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Originally Posted by TwoCarpets

Thats all well and good though, but ours are good anglo-saxon/celtic stock illiterates (apart from 2nd or 3rd generation italians or irish of course, but they dont reallycount as yer actual foreigners, ken), none of these slavic educationally sub-normals here. Oh no.

I mean, isnt it better to have someone say;
"Haw man, goannae gies that hingmy,ken? wi' the hing likes" in a kind of defensively mumbled slack jawed drawl rather than. "Please, where may this be, where is it" in less than Arabesquely perfect English but in a strong Polish accent.

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Quite! :greengrin

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

Question was actually directed at BravestHibs, which he chose to ignore. More so for the fact that he picks up on every little error that people (who he doesn't agree with) make, whether it be spelling, grammar, punctuation or the like.

I personally don't know if they were Eastern European, I don't think if I had asked them that they would have been able to answer, seeing as they didn't speak English.

Whatever floats yer boat. I don't mind being called small-minded, racist or whatever other fancy words you want to use. I don't agree with people coming to this country to work unless they are bringing something worthwhile with them and that they can speak English.

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Anyone else getting the unintentional irony here?

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

:dancer: Go Arab, Go Arab

Suppose if you're bothering me, you're leaving someone else alone.

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'you're leaving someone else alone' haha very good. I would ask what you are basing this view on but there will be no point in that.

I won't be bothering you any longer, I have take no pleasure in reading your posts.