If it helps you to understand the meaning of the word empathy, then I'm game.Quote:
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If it helps you to understand the meaning of the word empathy, then I'm game.Quote:
Originally Posted by makaveli1875
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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Who let that Taig post on here?
Isn’t it tarrier? I can never keep up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
It's a machiavellian plot I tell ye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Why on earth are people risking their lives to come here?
We must be a better place than we get credit for.
To get free benefits and kill us.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Many of them will have a reasonable degree of English. We've colonised half the world and forced English upon them to the extent that its the main second language of the world. We benefit from this advantage everytime we leave the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
This is the flip side - you reap what you sow.
I think the more pertinent question is what on earth are people trying to escape from that they are willing to risk their lives to come here.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
HERE is as far away as they can get from what they are running from. Makes sense to me.
It’s not just here that people try to escape to. The numbers trying to get from France to Britain is a small percentage of the numbers who arrive in France.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Liberal democracies are the most attractive places in the world to live and work. There is nothing special about us.
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nec pugnae aviditate pascere :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by makaveli1875
I see his brother and "best friend" has died. He is being trolled about it online. Now, I hate his politics but why do people feel the need to do this?
Because they are pig ignorant ****wits?Quote:
Originally Posted by wpj
It's a strange one, it annoys me to think that Trump is being trolled about the death of his brother but if Trump was to drop dead tomorrow I probably wouldn't care a fig.Quote:
Originally Posted by wpj
To be fair, he "must've known what he signed up for."Quote:
Originally Posted by wpj
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That really doesn’t excuse the sick posts. Those doing it only allow Trump to claim the moral high ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Someone trolls me about the loss of of a family member regardless of their opinion of me I will go through them. Trump is an absolute twat but he deserves the right to grieve for his brother.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...366.html%3fampQuote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
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Originally Posted by marinello59
That was a Trump phrase and is quite apt, in the circumstances.
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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
I bought everybody at my work a round of drinks when Thatcher died.
I know, I'm a bad man.
You're a rich man. I'd have just bought everybody a drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
:greengrin
Im sure that you know but it's worth stating, that illegal immigrants, despite what the right want us to believe, don't get benefits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
They do kill a lot of us though.
Yep I know. But that's the message that the right are trying to get over, sometimes subtle and sometimes very blunt but that's basically the seed they're trying to plant. It's all rubbish of course but I'm sure someone will be along in a minute who believes this guff and has a couple of YouTube videos that will convince us.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
My wife's friend lives in a small village in Sachsen and they were so terrified when a handful of refugees was housed there temporarily that they stopped taking their kids to the park and some of the women started going to the shops in pairs, instead of on their own.
Apparently it's a 'well known fact' that the refugees would rape them and steal their children.
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Worth a watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2020/17/august/the-enemy-of-the-working-class-travels-by-private-jet-not-migrant-dinghy-zahra-sultana-mp
Have a look at last Friday night's Unreported World on Channel 4 for some "interesting" viewpoints from some of Trumps more extreme female supporters .
History repeating.........
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a9674386.html
I see Steve Bannon has now been arrested for fraud. The minute Trump loses his pardon power they are all going to turn on him badly. If he doesn’t win in November I can’t see him staying out of jail.
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Money on that. Except, except, except....it's probably cleaner for the US to pardon him on the basis that he goes quietly away - Nixon style. The problem though is that Trump is undoutedly incapable of that - he is literally his own worst enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
a link to the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53853297
Not the first time in recent days Bannon has been linked with criminal activity;Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.n...mp/ncna1237155
Sadly swept under the carpet by Trumps lackeys. One legal analyst (and 30 year career prosecutor in the US) predicts this could be revisited if Trump leaves the WH in January. That will depend on how much pardon power Trump has before he leaves, if he knows those close to him are in legal jeopardy once/if he’s out of office can he pardon them in advance?
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Cheers.Quote:
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Found this in regards to Bannon, hypocrisy beyond belief;
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ey-laundering/
https://twitter.com/keejayov2/status...187763203?s=21
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BTW one person who can supersede and override the justice system is utter ballox BTW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgo
What an affront to the rule of law. Nobody should be above the law. Even the President.
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I'm no international law expert but i imagine going to war with a county and then keeping there natural resources surley violates somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
But wait... SHARKS!
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https://twitter.com/existentialfish/...521717248?s=21
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Pretty desperate article in The Guardian on Donald Trump today (has The Guardian 'jumped the shark'?)
"Trump confirms Stormy Daniels claim that he's terrified of sharks"
By all means, point out his many failings but this is just coming over as obsessive hatred, similar to their policy that every single article that mentions Corbyn must contain the words 'anti-semitism'
To be fair, at the time she did claim, rather bizarrely, that he was afraid of sharks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
So Trump doesn't like sharks. Sorry, but what does this prove exactly?
:dunno:
It may be to do with his speech when he spoke in the same breath about pillaging the Middle East and his dislike of sharks. Think it was pretty clear that he was more concerned about the sharks. Bit of a perspective bypass perhaps? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Competition for the title of craziest Republican candidate, following the Q Anon lady. This nutcase is actually their candidate for the U.S. Senate! Social distancing is a Marxist conspiracy. Poor old Karl gets blamed for everything, though he died 150 years ago:
https://youtu.be/QP4ODn4KMH8
Genius...wearing masks in a pandemic will turn us in zombies!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
There are a few classic phrases from Jo as well.
Lots of talk about the undefined them and they being the nefarious oppressors. They are trying to do this...if we let them do that then this bad thing happens etc.
Then the classic denial of being a conspiracist because it’s what she believes and it’s her views. The absolute definition of someone who believes conspiracies is someone who denies the large body of evidence available due to putting their own personal observations and beliefs in front of everything!
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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Yeah, that sounds like Trump.
Barack obama is the supreme king of pardons,commutations/clemency, he granted 330 commutations on his last full day in office, he issued more commutations than the previous 13 presidents combined, overall he issued 1,927 pardons/clemency/commutations etc..all from wikapedia, bill clinton pardoned 450, and i bet ghislaine maxwell is desperate for trump to get re-elected, which he won't be :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Unfortunately, he doesn't need to be re-elected in order to pardon her.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
he will be out of office on the 3rd Nov surely she will stillbe going through court appearances/appeals whatever for the next several months ? i've no idea when she's next due in courtQuote:
Originally Posted by Future17
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ba...l-week-office/
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Although President Obama set a record for the most commutations in history, his total of 212 pardons was well below that of many of his predecessors. Bill Clinton issued 396 pardons, Ronald Reagan 393, and the all-time record goes to Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who issued 2,819 pardons during his 12 years (not 16) in office. George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush were the only presidents of the modern era who issued fewer pardons than Barack Obama.
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Originally Posted by jonty
flippin heck, go FDR :eek:
that's a mega-long article, i'l peruse it later on :)
I found it really quite interesting - almost enough to make me interested in american politics again. almost. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
For me regardless of whether you are on the left or right, the idea that one person can pardon someone for a crime is mental.
In the US, the President can pardon someone for offences they’ve yet to be convicted of. They don't even have to have been indicted.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
that is just so crazy, it must totally p*** off law enforcement agencies. i've got a feeling trump will jyst go super daft on his last dayQuote:
Originally Posted by Future17
Including himself? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
He will go super daft the last two months he is in office!!Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
That depends who you ask. The problem with accepting a pardon is that it's considered to amount to accepting guilt...but I doubt he'd care, especially considering the alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/s...853244417?s=21
Trump laughs as one of his supporters calls Obama a monkey.
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Looking at Twitter it looks like it's no longer availableQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The general consensus from a quick look on Twitter suggests the person shouted "spygate" and not "monkey".Quote:
Originally Posted by wpj
I've not seen the video but this may explain why it's been taken down.
The guy shouted, “spygate”, it was clear as day. I know that 99.9% of you here hate Trump, but you have to admit, this story is a classic case of fake news.
Seems pretty clear to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4Ws2Wgu0wE
Jesus Christ. What a pathetic, nasty racist piece of garbage. And all the folk that laughed as well.Quote:
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Whit?Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
Are you for real? You honestly heard the word monkey being shouted?Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
It's a bit like "Brainstorm" or "Green Needle", you hear what you want. But Trump's comment about that it could only happen in North Carolina kind of suggests it's not Spygate that he heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC_NYC
Trump repeats the word. He says "spygate"Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
That's what I hear, but it's not great quality audio. I don't think Trump heard "spygate" though judging by his reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC_NYC
I hear spygate to be fair
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Just to be clear, that comment was aimed at Trump. I'm not sure why I'm shocked hearing that after everything he's done but it's mind blowing that the most powerful person in the world reacted like that to a black man being called a monkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I 100% heard monkey. I actually played it back several times to make absolutely sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC_NYC
I heard monkey first time but now you have said spy gate I hear that. Weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
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It's Spygate to me. Both the shouter and him.Quote:
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He's not repeating what was shouted, he's continuing what he was saying before the interruption distracted him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Watch again. He says it quietly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
I agree Trump says "Spygate" - which is what he was talking about before the interruption. Why would Trump react that way to someone shouting "Spygate" when he was talking about Spygate?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
He's a fud. 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
Well, I also agree with that. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I can't stand Trump but I honestly can't hear "monkey" being shouted. I only hear "spygate".
I've heard both and if you think one before listening then you'll hear that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
https://youtu.be/s2n87YKSjrA
“Monkey “ will this turn out to be Trump’s water margin gate.
Hard to know what he meant by "only in North Carolina" but probably more serious long term was his claim, shortly after, that the only way he could lose the election would be if it's rigged. Coming pretty close to inciting some of his base to violence in November.
No idea how anyone heard monkey from that clip.
Trump can be Pigsy.Quote:
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Not at all a classic case of fake news, since the tweet was very quickly removed. When did your hero ever correct any of the false information he's been spreading around for the last four years? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC_NYC
Well I did but that’s because I had been told what was said before hand...the audio is a bit fuzzy so being told it was monkey I’m pretty sure that’s what I heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Reading on and seeing it was spygate I listened again and to be fair it kind of sounds a bit like that as well.
I then tried to blank my mind and listen to it ‘without prejudice’....when I did that I’m pretty sure that I’d have struggled to clearly determine what was said if I hadn’t been fed the two options previously.
So in summary I’ve no idea what the dude said or why Trump found it funny.
I thought he said ‘Rosebud’ myself :greengrin
https://twitter.com/rightwingwatch/s...749521409?s=21
In an evening full of insane speeches at the RNC, Kimberley Guilfoyle outshines them all.
Can’t be easy doing that in front of an empty hall. A speaking style that would have made Hitler proud.[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by -Jonesy-
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I'm eternally grateful I don't live in the US.Quote:
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The world has changed.Quote:
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Remember when we thought Sarah Palin was mad? She’s like Barbara Bush compared to these psychos.
That is just so weird it’s not even funny. What confuses me the most is that Trump has done hee haw to peoples lives in the first 4 years, who in gods name believes he would do anything in a 2nd term.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Jonesy-
I saw someone compare it to Robocop or Starship Troopers which is spot on, it's like social satire that Paul Verhoeven would put in one of his filmsQuote:
Originally Posted by -Jonesy-
Do not underestimate what people are willing to have society at large put up with in order to protect their personal wealth.Quote:
Originally Posted by stokesmessiah
Il never forget our incredibly weathly treasurer (like super rich, massive house off princess Street, holiday home down south of England etc) coming out his office doing a jig when the tories went into coilition with the DUPQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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Listening again it sounds like “Spy Gate”. However I did here “Monkey” the first time. Must be like the “Laurel” and “Yannie” a whole back.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
That said, I think Trump heard “Monkey”. Either way, his reaction was wrong.
If Trump heard Spygate, why would he say “be nice” and “only in North Carolina”?
A real President if he thought he heard “Monkey” would be to come down hard on the racist in the crowd.
Not “be nice” & “Only in North Carolina”.
WTF?!?
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Fascism with a smile. Absolutely bonkers times in America at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Jonesy-
Not to be all conspiracy theorist about it, but any chance the YouTube version might have been dubbed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
I have to admit that when she started, I was feeling a sense of pride but that quickly changed to a sense of cringe, quickly followed by utter embarrassment. I'm sure she thought that channeling her inner Mussolini sounded like a great idea, but ultimately, she made a complete fool of herself. Incidentally, I used to think she was hot piece of ass but my God, what has she done to herself? She looked a right state last night.Quote:
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Overdone the sniff a few too many years?Quote:
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