(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

Read an article earlier about Vance and his comments about security of the waters surrounding Greenland.

This paragraph in the article should put Trump and co’s minds at ease when it comes to the security issue they may have…..

On the security front, a 74-year-old treaty with Denmark permitting the US to increase its military presence in Greenland at any time – from new bases to submarine harbours - should surely take care of Washington's concerns about countering the threat from China, just as it did during the Cold War years.

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You make jokes, but the parallels to a previous fascist keep coming thick and fast:



A little food for thought ...

In 1923, Adolf Hitler called for an uprising against the German government. He was put on trial, but received only a lenient sentence and became a convicted felon. Despite the judge's lenient treatment, Hitler claimed that the trial was a political persecution and successfully portrayed himself as a victim of the "corrupt" Social Democrats.

He skilfully staged himself as the voice of the "common man", railed against the "elites", cultural "decadence" and the establishment, all of whom he described as "Marxists". Hitler claimed that the education system was indoctrinating children to hate Germany and promised to lead the country back to greatness.

To consolidate his following, Hitler made minorities the scapegoats for the nation's problems and exploited social divisions with "us against them" rhetoric. Many Germans fell for it. The NSDAP continued to gain popularity until Hitler became Reich Chancellor in 1933.

Hitler appointed German oligarchs as his economic advisors and privatised state-run utilities to secure the support of the business elite. While the working class was divided along cultural and ethnic lines, the Nazis closed trade unions and banned strikes.

Progressive forces and union members were arrested and sent to concentration camps. Corporate profits skyrocketed while workers in Germany lived from pay cheque to pay cheque. Hitler himself became a billionaire during his time in office. He and his clique of oligarchs knew they could get away with their scam as long as they constantly presented an "enemy within" to blame while corporate rule plundered the country.

An easy target was one of the smallest minorities. Hitler stripped Jews of their birthright to German citizenship and began arresting them for mass deportations on the grounds that they were "illegally" in the country. The German press under Nazi control highlighted cases of violence by Jews to convince the public that Jewish immigrants were a danger to the "real Germans".

Hitler wasted no time in dismantling democratic institutions. Loyalty was not only encouraged, but demanded. Opponents were silenced, and media who dared to criticise him were vilified as "enemies" and "Marxists".

Hitler's propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels boasted that the Nazis had intimidated the media into giving them favourable coverage without having to give direct orders.

The Nazi regime and its supporters collected all books that they saw as promoting "decadence" or what would today be called "woke" and burned them in huge bonfires. They also burned books that promoted class consciousness.

Berlin had a thriving LGBTQ community in the 1920s, including the first transgender clinic. The Nazis burned it down. LGBTQ people were sent to concentration camps and had to wear pink triangle badges. Many were murdered in the Holocaust.

The Nazis also saw masculinity threatened by independent women who were not dependent on men. In 1934, Hitler proclaimed: "A woman's world is her husband, her family, her children, her home." Laws that had protected women's rights were repealed and new laws restricted women to the role of wives and mothers.

Reproductive rights were massively curtailed and doctors who performed abortions could face the death penalty.

Despite all this, the Germans had no comparable historical warning to look back on. Most people did not behave as if doom was imminent.

Most went on with their lives as usual - until many of them were wiped out. When Hitler's reign was finally ended by the Allies, 11 million people had been murdered in the Holocaust and 70 to 85 million people died in the Second World War.

It started with the NSDAP or MAGA, just as it does today.

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:agree: :agree: And there'd be no shortage of MAGAs happy to be dressed up and taking potshots at the incarcerated classes, just for sport.

During Trump's first stint in the White House, he declared he was going to do the 'biggest deal ever' by buying Greenland. He was raging when the Danish Prime Minister said that Greenland was not for sale.

What we are seeing now is Trump's ego in action. He didn't get his way first time round and he's determined to right that wrong.

This has nothing to do with US security, or even mineral rights, it's 100% the Big Baby determined to get what he was denied first time round.

Read that Greenlanders are wearing MAGA hats…Make America Go Away

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Good work by Trump. Coming recession for the US could be a biggy.


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quite astonishing House Foreign Affairs Committee Majority on X: "MAGA 1, Libs 0 https://t.co/0sLwNzic55" / X

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Wonder how long this goes before they start defaulting on loans or have to shut down factories?


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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

quite astonishing House Foreign Affairs Committee Majority on X: "MAGA 1, Libs 0 https://t.co/0sLwNzic55" / X

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The administration's various accounts have basically become trolling sites. Some of the White House's stuff has been obscene.

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Wonder how long this goes before they start defaulting on loans or have to shut down factories?


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Not much chance of that! Tesla is more than a car company which is why the valuation is so high.

I’m sure a few more months will cause them some pain but I can’t see any defaults or anything such like taking place. Maybe threaten factory closures to scare the governments about unemployment

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Originally Posted by Hibs4185

Not much chance of that! Tesla is more than a car company which is why the valuation is so high.

I’m sure a few more months will cause them some pain but I can’t see any defaults or anything such like taking place. Maybe threaten factory closures to scare the governments about unemployment

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Valuation doesn’t pay the bills month to month though? They have three giant factories geared up to millions of cars which won’t sell. At some point the money won’t be there to pay the workers, tax etc.


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Trumps so called “Liberation Day” tomorrow with loads of tariffs. Will be interesting to see if he goes through with it. Could be very costly to world economies if he does

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Valuation doesn’t pay the bills month to month though? They have three giant factories geared up to millions of cars which won’t sell. At some point the money won’t be there to pay the workers, tax etc.


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They had $36bn in the bank at the end of December.

https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesl...024-Update.pdf

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They had $36bn in the bank at the end of December.

https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesl...024-Update.pdf

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And if revenues drop by a third that will be gone in a year?


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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

They had $36bn in the bank at the end of December.

https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesl...024-Update.pdf

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65% drop in Denmark. Can they last a full year if this keeps up? There is a lot of capital out there and nobody buying the cars.


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Myanmar earthquake: "American assistance has yet to arrive".

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Myanmar earthquake: "American assistance has yet to arrive".

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They are led by a man that wanted to turn Gaza into a holiday resort.

Maybe in the longer term their current world view might see them as the pariahs that the orange guys Russian and north korean pals have become.

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Deliveries down 13% first quarter. Most of them would have been ordered before Trump took office. I would think next quarter would be a lot worse.


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Rumours Musk stepping away from DOGE. Doubt that will help Tesla. Damage is done there.


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Rumours Musk stepping away from DOGE. Doubt that will help Tesla. Damage is done there.


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I read an article a few weeks ago that claimed the cabinet generally disliked him for stepping on their toes.

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I read an article a few weeks ago that claimed the cabinet generally disliked him for stepping on their toes.

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He does seem like a very dislikable chap.


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Rumours Musk stepping away from DOGE. Doubt that will help Tesla. Damage is done there.


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I think he can only serve for 130 days as he isn’t a proper government official.

He was in Wisconsin last night campaigning for the republican Supreme Court nomination and he was greeting about the Tesla share price and how it’s affecting him.

Unfortunately for him the share price is only headed one way for a while

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I think he can only serve for 130 days as he isn’t a proper government official.

He was in Wisconsin last night campaigning for the republican Supreme Court nomination and he was greeting about the Tesla share price and how it’s affecting him.

Unfortunately for him the share price is only headed one way for a while

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I don’t think the share price is tied to sales just yet. It’s all about believing in him. Need the sales to fall a lot further first and see the company struggle first.


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“Liberation day” in full swing. 25% tariff on all cars imported to the US and 10% on all UK goods

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Originally Posted by Scorrie

“Liberation day” in full swing. 25% tariff on all cars imported to the US and 10% on all UK goods

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Let’s hope he holds his nerve this time. Americans need to feel some pain.


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“Liberation day” in full swing. 25% tariff on all cars imported to the US and 10% on all UK goods

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Discounted reciprocal rates however UK has a matched rate of 10%.

I think they’ll work out a trade deal pretty quickly. The US has a small trade surplus with us, we must be one of the only countries in that position

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Discounted reciprocal rates however UK has a matched rate of 10%.

I think they’ll work out a trade deal pretty quickly. The US has a small trade surplus with us, we must be one of the only countries in that position

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They’ll soon have a big trade surplus as we won’t match them. Starmer will just take the hit to Whisky and Salmon because it’s Scotland and he doesn’t give a monkeys.


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Discounted reciprocal rates however UK has a matched rate of 10%.

I think they’ll work out a trade deal pretty quickly. The US has a small trade surplus with us, we must be one of the only countries in that position

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The base rate is 10%, that’s why we have no discount.